Tim Howells wrote:
John Spritzler http://spritzlerj.blogspot.com/ is a very interesting
blogger (found via xymphora http://xymphora.blogspot.com/ ) who is
tackling the big issues of interest on this news-group. I will have to
really study and think about this, but I have to say at this point
This one brightened my day ...
[CENTCOM Chief Admiral William] Fallon told Petraeus that he considered
him to be an ass-kissing little chickenshit and added, I hate people
like that ... That remark reportedly came after Petraeus began the
meeting by making remarks that Fallon interpreted as
Brent Scowcroft on the Bush 43/Bush41 Split Over Israel
Brent Scowcroft is arguably the second most important person in the Bush 41
inner circle, following George H.W. Bush himself.
The Bush 41 group believes that Bush Junior's mind has been captured and ruined
by the Israelis:
Sharon just
The Radical Split Between Bush 43/Bush 41 Over Israel
How to do political science, as opposed to conspiracy theorizing and conspiracy
wanking -- lay out the key issues and proven facts (not speculations) on a grid.
[Bush 43/Bush 41]
1. AEI (American Enterprise Institute) [+/-]
2. AIPAC [+/-]
Tim--
It's next to impossible to even respond to your narrow and silly stereotypes of
Jews in general (when you favorably cite the silly passage Jews conclude from
what they are taught by their religious leaders... and of me (Probably Tiger
is not conscious of this, but he has lived and
Actually, I am curious: why is Jewish ethnic nationalism good and European
ethnic nationalism bad? Can you explain, without resorting to strained
sophistry?
My opinion is that either ethnic nationalism is good for everyone or it is good
for no one -- one has to choose. One cannot select
If anything is going to save America from the nasty creeps who are trying to
destroy it, it is the attitude of of heroes like CENTCOM Chief Admiral William
Fallon. At some point in the future, justice will be meted out to those who
have attacked the U.S. Constitution and Bill of Rights on
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Heard WTC 7 Demolition Countdown via infowarsnews at Yahoo! Groups by
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Demolition Countdown Former Air Force Special Operations for Search and
Rescue expert witnessed
Not sure why you are asking me, if indeed you are--I don;t recall making the
claim Jewish ethnic nationalism is good and European ethnic nationalism is
bad.
However, with respect to your narrow binary thinking--that complex historical
realities are reduced to being good for everyone or it is
[Excerpt]
Mohamed Atta, or rather the person playing the part of Mohamed Atta,
was in fact not a fanatical, religiously devout, suicidal, jihadi
Muslim terrorist. According to research articles published just after
9/11 in such mainstream publications as The Wall Street Journal, Atta
was,
Let's try this again:
On what conceivable grounds can Jewish ethnic nationalists in Israel and the
Diaspora (and that includes all Jews who support Zionism) object to various
forms of white ethnic nationalism in the United States and Europe? The truth
is, they have no grounds whatever -- they
[Watch the Israel-First neoconservatives and Christian Zionists now try
to smear William Fallon as a traitor -- you can see it coming a mile
away.]
[For the conspiracy wankers in the truthabout911 list: William Fallon
is one of many members of the American military establishment who are
in
[Neoconservatives continue to try to bog down the United States in a
self-destructive holy war with more than a billion Muslims worldwide,
many of them sitting on important natural resources, including oil
fields. America is indeed facing a dangerous enemy: neoconservatives.
The Russians, Chinese
Again can't respond--you're rambling reply has no logical coherency and
structure, other than the unifying thread of hostility towards Jews.
Sean McBride [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Let's try
this again:
On what conceivable grounds can Jewish ethnic nationalists in
Be specific: what is illogical in the questions I have raised about ethnic
nationalism? Is ethnic nationalism good for some groups and bad for others?
That point of view appears to be implicit in your posts on this subject. Am I
wrong?
Ethnic nationalism is good for Israelis, but bad for
Sean and Others:
Jewish supremacy is based upon a religious concept. Without the Jewish claim
that they are God's chosen people, their claim to racial superiority over other
groups does not hold up.
First of all, several texts of the Old Testament say that Israel is God's
chosen
Sean McBride [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ethnic nationalism is good for Israelis, but bad for Europeans and Americans --
isn't this your belief?
RESPONSE
Where have I ever said this? What I do say is that making direct comparisons
between various nationalisms renders the analysis meaningless given
One can see that you angry and upset about the enemies of your ethnic group --
that comes through loud and clear in your posts -- the violent emotion and
aggression -- even when the thinking is muddled and opaque. Most Americans
from most ethnic groups are not in this state of mind -- they
TomDispatch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 15:08:01 -0400
From: TomDispatch [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [TD] Tomgram: Tony Karon on Growing Dissent among American Jews
a project of the Nation Institute
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To send this
Tangential musings stimulated by your post:
Could it be that the Chosen People ideology which is at the heart of the Jewish
religious tradition has been the source of much of the conflict between Jews
and other peoples over several thousand years?
Two key factors in play:
1. The Fastest Gun
Other than the rants of some right wing Zionists (who largely speak as
Europeans rather than Jews), where is this supposed Jewish claim to racial
superiority over other groups?
bernard pyron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Sean and Others:
Jewish supremacy is based upon a religious
All you are doing here is throwing around the antisemitism smear to avoid
engaging in a rational dialogue on the role of ethnic nationalism in
contemporary politics. The Israel lobby has pushed Jewish ethnic nationalist
issues to the front and center of American politics - deal with it.
Why
Sean, your disdain for Jews taints each successive post more and more. I don;t
even think you realize it. It seems that it is you who is obsessed with
ethnicities.
Sean McBride [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One can see that you angry and
upset about the enemies of your ethnic group -- that
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