Re: Declassified grand jury transcripts confirm frame-up of Ethel Rosenberg. Another example of the fraud of US democracy

2008-09-13 Thread Gaar

Wonder who I will believe...

That's a tough one.


On Sep 13, 8:12 am, Keith In Tampa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Thank you Frank, for reminding us that the Rosenberg Grand Jury transcripts
 were released on Thursday, September 11, 2008.  I was aware of this
 important release of declassified information, and had actually forgotten
 about it!

 Here is the National Security Archive's direct link to the Grand Jury Notes,
 transcripts, a list of the witnesses, and a  chronology of the Rosenberg
 case is also available:

 http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/news/20080911/index.htm

 Of course, it is my opinion that the source that I am providing would be a
 much better resource than Tom Ely, and the World Socialist and National
 Socialist Networks' spin on these traitors' grand jury indictment, trial,
 and subsequent conviction and execution.   Although the documents do in fact
 reflect that the government utilized deceit, and perjury during the trial,
 there is no doubt, that the Rosenbergs were guilty of high treason, to
 include Ethel Rosenberg, and their brother-in-law and sister-in-law, Ruth
 and David Greenglas.  Nevertheless, it does prove that our United States
 Department of Justice, is not always the good guys..This is a far cry
 from the caption of your thread, which is downright ignorant and fallible.

 An excerpt from the synopsis:

  It is clear that at some point the government strategy took a dramatic
 turn. Grand jury testimony reveals that there was a great deal of espionage
 on conventional munitions but none of that came out at trial. Why not? It
 may be that the government did not want to reveal the extent to which
 Rosenberg and other Soviet spy rings had managed to penetrate the U.S.
 defense establishment. 
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Re: Declassified grand jury transcripts confirm frame-up of Ethel Rosenberg. Another example of the fraud of US democracy

2008-09-13 Thread Zebnick

September 13, 2008

So the Red-baiters and the witch-hunters were right, after all.

For more than half a century, it's been an article of faith among
progressives that Julius and Ethel Rosenberg were framed for their
political beliefs and executed in 1953 as Soviet spies.

But now the Rosenbergs' 91-year-old co-defendant, Morton Sobell, has
confessed all to The New York Times.

Yes, he and the Rosenbergs were devout communists, says Sobell. And
yes, he and Julius Rosenberg did pass atomic secrets to Moscow.

Of course, Sobell, who served 19 years, adds his own little twists to
the story. He never thought of it as espionage, he says, because the
secrets he stole were strictly defensive and there's a big
difference between giving that and stuff that could be used to attack
our country.

And he insists that Ethel Rosenberg, while aware of her husband's
espionage, was guilty only of being Julius's wife.

But, even if Sobell's contentions were all true, he and his co-
defendants were legally culpable of the crime with which they were
charged and convicted: conspiracy to commit espionage.

So this much is now clear from Morton Sobell's belated confession: The
verdict of history agrees completely with that of the court.

Guilty, guilty, guilty.



On Sep 13, 5:18 am, Frank [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Declassified grand jury transcripts confirm frame-up of Ethel
 Rosenberg
 By Tom Eley
 13 September 2008

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 The recent release of previously secret grand jury transcripts has
 revealed that crucial testimony was perjured in the conviction and
 1953 execution of Julius and Ethel Rosenberg for conspiracy to commit
 espionage on behalf of the Soviet Union.

 The Rosenbergs were accused of planning to provide the Soviet Union
 with intelligence that would assist in the development of its atomic
 bomb project. They were tried and convicted in 1951, and executed in
 1953 at the height of the post-World War II Red Scare, orphaning two
 young children. The execution was a savage act by the US government
 calculated to terrorize the population.

 The transcripts, which had been sealed for 55 years, became available
 through the National Archives and Records Administration after a
 lawsuit by historians and an independent archive. A New York court
 ordered that the testimony of all but four of 45 grand jury witnesses
 be released. This included both the testimony of Ethel Rosenberg
 herself and that of Ruth Greenglass, the wife of David Greenglass,
 Ethel’s brother.

 It is the testimony of Ruth Greenglass that strongly suggests that at
 least Ethel Rosenberg was convicted based on perjured testimony.

 During the Rosenberg trial, Ruth Greenglass claimed that Ethel
 Rosenberg typed up secrets stolen by David Greenglass, who was a
 machinist at Los Alamos in New Mexico, the center of the US atomic
 bomb project. The Greenglasses claimed that Ethel then passed the
 typed sheets via Julius Rosenberg to Soviet intelligence. The
 assertion was instrumental in the conviction and execution of Ethel.

 The newly released grand jury testimony completely contradicts the
 version of events Ruth Greenglass presented at the subsequent trial.
 After stating to the grand jury that she had assisted Julius Rosenberg
 with espionage, prosecutors asked Greenglass, “Didn’t you write [the
 atomic bomb information] down on a piece of paper?” “Yes,” she
 answered, “I wrote [the atomic bomb information] down on a piece of
 paper and [Julius Rosenberg] took it with him.”

 This grand jury testimony confirmed the account given by former Soviet
 intelligence officials, who said that the information they received
 was written in longhand.

 According to the anticommunist historian Ronald Radosh, “The grand
 jury documents cast significant doubt on the key prosecution charge
 used to convict Ethel Rosenberg at the trial and sentence her to
 death.”

 In 2001, David Greenglass, who spent 10 years in prison for espionage,
 disavowed his own testimony. He said the government blackmailed him by
 threatening to execute his wife. Ruth Greenglass was never tried, and
 died this past April at the age of 84.

 Historical context

 There is little doubt that Julius Rosenberg conveyed intelligence to
 the Soviet Union. It is likely that Ethel Rosenberg was aware of this,
 but did not participate actively. Both were members of the Stalinist
 Communist Party USA (CPUSA).

 The charges of atomic espionage against the Rosenbergs, however, were
 sensationalized. There is no evidence to suggest that information
 gathered by Rosenberg through Greenglass at Los Alamos played any role
 in the successful completion of the Russian atomic bomb. According to
 Morton Sobell, who was convicted along with the Rosenbergs and who
 recently confessed to carrying on espionage for the Soviet Union, the
 intelligence that Julius gathered “was junk.” Alexander Feklisov, the
 Soviet agent who was Rosenberg’s contact,