'What is
OpenBSD?' }, ]));
| --->8---
|
|
| and I got some data back. Didn't had time to look into it more, but I guess
| it works?
|
|
|
| On Mon, Feb 27, 2023 at 12:01:00PM +, Stuart Henderson wrote:
| > On 2023/02/25 17:36, Todd T. Fries wrote:
| > > Penned by Stuart Henderson o
Penned by Stuart Henderson on 20230306 15:37.58, we have:
| On 2023/03/06 13:57, Todd T. Fries wrote:
| > I have an observation to add.
| >
| > Chasing a bug in 'pkg_add -Ur' when /usr/local fills up, and it prompts to
| > delete the existing files, then runs out of space installing
| ...
|
| Thanks!
| Johannes
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Penned by Stuart Henderson on 20230221 9:37.50, we have:
| On 2023/02/20 15:14, Todd T. Fries wrote:
| > This is not used by anything, yet.
| >
| > Comment:
| > A Perl module for accessing the OpenAI API
|
| s/A //
|
| > Feedback? If OK, please commit, I don't have commit acc
This is not used by anything, yet.
Comment:
A Perl module for accessing the OpenAI API
Feedback? If OK, please commit, I don't have commit access since
I fell off the radar.
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1:gstreamer1-plugins-bad-1.22.0->1.22.0: ok
Same thing.
Penned by Todd T. Fries on 20230202 19:19.02, we have:
| kern.version=OpenBSD 7.2-current (GENERIC.MP) #1013: Wed Feb 1 10:09:11 MST
2023
| dera...@amd64.openbsd.org:/usr/src/sys/arch/amd64/compile/GENERIC.MP
|
| Information for inst
"pkg_info qutebrowser".
| >
| >
| > On 2023 Jan 30 (Mon) at 13:23:48 -0300 (-0300), Gabriel Busch de Brito
wrote:
| > :Hi all,
| > :
| > :After a recent update (today) qutebrowser no longer works on -CURRENT.
| > :Trying to open it results in a Segmentation fault after a few "WARNING:
| > :Unrecognized OpenGL version" messages.
| > :
| > :Maintainer not CCed because I couldn't find Dimitri Karamazov's email.
| > :
| > ::wq,
| > :G
| > :
| >
| > --
| > The best book on programming for the layman is "Alice in Wonderland";
| > but that's because it's the best book on anything for the layman.
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e added --localstatedir=/tmp/ to CONFIGURE_ARGS but that feels wrong.
| qga needs it to store its qga.state file and probably to store temp
| files..
Why is /var/run (the default) not a good option?
Is there a reason we don't want to provide an example /etc/qemu/ga.conf ?
Thanks,
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5
| +DISTNAME=tkcvs-8.2.3
| CATEGORIES= devel
|
| +HOMEPAGE=https://www.twobarleycorns.net/tkcvs.html
| +
| MAINTAINER= Todd T. Fries <t...@openbsd.org>
|
| +# GPLv2
| PERMIT_PACKAGE_CDROM=Yes
|
| -MASTER_SITES=
http://www.neosoft.com/tcl/ftparchive/sorted/packa
I agree with the logic, but have not tested. I'd additionally
be fine with:
-MAINTAINER =Todd T. Fries <t...@openbsd.org>
+MAINTAINER =Remi Locherer <remi.loche...@relo.ch>
Thanks,
Penned by Remi Locherer on 20180208 3:56.25, we have:
| ping
|
| On Wed, Jan 24, 2018 a
Avail Capacity Mounted on
fusefs10.0T 30.7G 10.0T 0%/home/todd/tmp/hosts/hubic
todd@i5/pU ~/tmp/hosts/hubic|62$
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of
having auth apps elsewhere.
Is smtpd similar enough to have the same treatment?
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.fs
| mount /dev/vnd0c /mnt
| mkdir /mnt/etc
| echo set tty com0 /mnt/etc/boot.conf
|
| --
| This message has been scanned for viruses and
| dangerous content by MailScanner, and is
| believed to be clean.
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|
| No conflicts created by this import
|
|
| --
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YES PLEASE. ok todd@
Penned by Antoine Jacoutot on 20130515 15:08.47, we have:
| Hi.
|
| Some time ago espie@ added a check to make sure that /usr/ports was not a
symlink because this could break a couple (or 3?) ports.
| I hate that restriction.
| Last time I talked to him he said that
Penned by Jakob Schlyter on 20130412 4:11.22, we have:
| On 11 apr 2013, at 23:56, Ted Unangst t...@tedunangst.com wrote:
|
| On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 14:57, Brad Smith wrote:
| The following diff adds a dns64 FLAVOR to the Unbound port to integrate the
| DNS64 support as provided by the
Penned by Martijn Rijkeboer on 20130316 8:20.50, we have:
| Hi,
|
| The attached archive is take 3 of an update of sysutils/cfengine to version
| 3.4.2. This version explicitly disables libvirt because when libvirt was
| installed it was build with libvirt.
|
| I've chosen to disable libvirt
Penned by Martijn Rijkeboer on 20130318 13:12.18, we have:
| As I pointed out to the libvirt maintainer, libvirt should be enabled to
| use the qemu engine that does work on OpenBSD.
|
| Sure it is slower than real hardware, and because of this it makes
| little sense to use for more than
Penned by Landry Breuil on 20130312 15:16.38, we have:
| On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 10:27:26AM +0100, LEVAI Daniel wrote:
| On sze, m?rc 06, 2013 at 20:29:44 +0100, Landry Breuil wrote:
| [...]
| That said, i'll recheck with the regular unflavored bitlbee, and with
| your diff.
|
| Have you
Thanks a lot for your efforts! See comments inline.
Penned by Landry Breuil on 20130108 16:35.06, we have:
| Hi,
|
| he're a preliminary diff to :
| - update dspam to 3.10.2
| - move some FLAVORS to MULTI_PACKAGES
I see no reason not to do this, why we want to waste cpu cycles when
I can't say that I've used this recently, I probably should try,
but I have fond memories of using telnet over a 2400 bps dialup
to connect to a hpux NFS client at school to run this to nfsmount
their mail server spool to give access to the mailbox of a friend
who had left the school and had his
Penned by Landry Breuil on 20120916 14:16.02, we have:
| On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 12:11:10PM +0100, Stuart Henderson wrote:
| On 2012/09/16 10:56, Olivier Mehani wrote:
| Hi all,
|
| Cgit in ports seems to be a ligtweight web interface to Git. However, to
| run its binary from ports in a
You don't have to visit a bank to find this issue.
See also https://post.craigslist.org/
Thanks,
Penned by Mikolaj Kucharski on 20120728 10:26.22, we have:
| It's also present on Windows version of Xombrero (1.2.2), but not sure
| what gnutls is used there.
|
|
Penned by Pascal Stumpf on 20120625 12:56.42, we have:
| On Sat, 26 May 2012 14:57:48 +0200, Pascal Stumpf wrote:
| Plan 9 is a distributed computing environment built at Bell Labs
| starting in the late 1980s. The system can be obtained from Bell
| Labs at http://plan9.bell-labs.com/plan9 and
I'm not sure where this should go other than 'common knowledge to anyone
using system authentication in OpenBSD and freeradius' but ..
When one sets up freeradius to authenticate users based on system accounts,
one should take care to set the following in radiusd.conf:
group = _shadow
Penned by Antoine Jacoutot on 20110822 14:44.57, we have:
| On Mon, 22 Aug 2011, Todd T. Fries wrote:
|
| I'm not sure where this should go other than 'common knowledge to anyone
| using system authentication in OpenBSD and freeradius' but ..
|
| When one sets up freeradius to authenticate
Penned by Antoine Jacoutot on 20110822 15:47.07, we have:
| On Mon, 22 Aug 2011, Todd T. Fries wrote:
|
| use a database or ldap or anything other than system users for
authentication
| Penned by Antoine Jacoutot on 20110822 14:44.57, we have:
| | On Mon, 22 Aug 2011, Todd T. Fries wrote
Penned by Antoine Jacoutot on 20110822 15:47.07, we have:
| On Mon, 22 Aug 2011, Todd T. Fries wrote:
|
| use a database or ldap or anything other than system users for
authentication
| Penned by Antoine Jacoutot on 20110822 14:44.57, we have:
| | On Mon, 22 Aug 2011, Todd T. Fries wrote
Try checking login.conf(5), specifically your default limits. ksh(1)
shows these via 'ulimit -a'.
Penned by David Cantrell on 20110821 21:09.30, we have:
| I am unable to start a qemu guest with more than 256M of memory,
| despite having 4G in my system. I get ENOMEM and qemu exits. Using
|
Penned by Stuart Henderson on 20110514 5:48.47, we have:
| In gmane.os.openbsd.ports, you wrote:
| On 2011-05-13, Ryan McBride mcbr...@openbsd.org wrote:
| This is the patch from http://ecdysis.viagenie.ca/, updated for
| unbound-1.4.9. Needed for nat64 in pf being tested now, but also useful
Similar story here, on i386. iaxcomm has hints of video support, but I suspect
it would require some coding to make it work. I'll add that to my low priority
todo list.
The other app that should do video is empathy.
It failed in similar ways last I tried it also.
If anyone has further hints
Penned by Stuart Henderson on 20110506 2:46.06, we have:
| Matthias Kilian kili at outback.escape.de writes:
| On Sat, Jul 17, 2010 at 08:07:39AM -0500, Todd T. Fries wrote:
| If you have ever been frustrated by qemu command line maddness and/or the
| README.OpenBSD provided with qemu
I've gotten one request to decommission qemu-old. It surprised me,
as I thought there were still issues with qemu/ even with the semi recent
thread fix as well as performance differences.
Does anybody have objection to retiring qemu-old to the attic or ?
I'd rather not do this prematurely but
I withdraw any thoughts of removing qemu-old anytime soon based on feedback.
Henning confirms performance gains for keeping it.
And we have a reminder that while kqemu is not recommended, it is only usable
on qemu-old.
Penned by Todd T. Fries on 20110321 15:58.35, we have:
| I've gotten one
Penned by Stuart Henderson on 20100724 11:48.43, we have:
| On 2010/07/23 23:42, Steven Mestdagh wrote:
| Stuart Henderson [2010-07-23, 22:15:37]:
| On 2010/07/23 15:40, Todd T. Fries wrote:
|Since there are two `alternate' system loggers, and rsyslog sports a
|feature syslog-ng does
Since there are two `alternate' system loggers, and rsyslog sports a
feature syslog-ng does not, notibly RELP (Reliable Event Logging Protocol),
is there any reason we can't have both in the ports tree?
This was submitted a couple years back, no discussion, and obviously no
commit.
Any
Penned by Christian Weisgerber on 20100722 12:53.06, we have:
| Christian Weisgerber na...@openbsd.org wrote:
|
| What are we going to do with emulators/qemu-old?
|
| It is marked as only for i386 and powerpc. However, it also requires
| gcc3 to build and both of these archs now use gcc4.
|
Bad regex on my part.
gcc3* - no match
gcc* - ah
Penned by Christian Weisgerber on 20100722 18:58.11, we have:
| Todd T. Fries:
|
| Too bad gcc3 isn't in snaps or it'd be easier to test ;-)
|
| Huh, what are you talking about? Of course gcc3 packages are on
| ftp. (And also were
If you have ever been frustrated by qemu command line maddness and/or the
README.OpenBSD provided with qemu is not making your tea for you, I give
you... qrun.
This was inspired by Bob Beck who fell trap to the above and whined enough
in the proper tones that I was compelled by strange forces to
I like this solution until qemu 0.12.x or newer becomes reliable.
Penned by Christian Weisgerber on 20100717 0:05.40, we have:
| What are we going to do with emulators/qemu-old?
|
| It is marked as only for i386 and powerpc. However, it also requires
| gcc3 to build and both of these archs now
I think you mean unlock. Yes, I have been given a patch a while back
to address this (thanks Brad) amongst several other things. Will
deal with it then.
Penned by Antoine Jacoutot on 20100118 15:11.39, we have:
| On Mon, 18 Jan 2010, RD Thrush wrote:
|
| TRUETRUEPREFIX - TRUEPREFIX
|
| This
t...@t41/p6 ~/copy/sys?1000$ git cvsimport -d /cvs -C cvsimport src/sys
Initialized empty Git repository in /home/todd/copy/sys/cvsimport/.git/
Can't exec cvsps: No such file or directory at
/usr/local/libexec/git/git-cvsimport line 671, GEN0 line 2.
Could not start cvsps: No such file or
Just in case anybody uses sidebar and has mail boxes with . as
separators over imap, you may wish to place this in your .muttrc:
set imap_delim_chars=/
The mutt global default is /. which means things like
Monitoring.2009-05 get interpreted as Monitoring/2009-05
without this (arguably standard
With dovecot as the server, yes.
Penned by Mikolaj Kucharski on 20090525 16:53.02, we have:
| With default ``set imap_delim_chars=/.'' your directory
| Monitoring.2009-05 is interpreted as Monitoring/2009-05 (as you
| wrote)
|
| Does that prevent mutt to open that IMAP folder?
|
| --
| best
. \ 250797 (FWD)
| \
\\
37E7 D3EB 74D0 8D66 A68D B866 0326 204E 3F42 004A
http://todd.fries.net/pgp.txt
Penned by Todd T. Fries
man for it to make sense.
|
| FWIW
|
| On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 04:56:05PM -0600, Todd T. Fries wrote:
| Could anyone explain why one would want to do '-no-fd-bootchk' ? I mean
| it is there, but what reason would one want to put it on the cmdline?
|
| In any event, here's my integration
Honestly, I have two problems with this.
1) nowhere do you mention you require root privs
2) this does not drop to a non root user
Unfortunately, we almost need to mention somewhere that
amd64 sucks wrt 'user' aka 'slirp' mode net.
Let me get back with a better solution tomorrow.
Thanks,
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This is premature. base packages are only barely trickling out
on an arch by arch basis. ports builds will take at least 24hrs
more, and then they have to get mirrored out to the mirrors.
Please check that base45.tgz exists before doing any exhaustive
testing of any sort.
Thanks,
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I think you must not be using current ports. mplayer was one of the first
apps to have sndio backend support.
It works great.
Be sure to checkout '-ao help' to determine if your sndio backend support
is named libsndio or sndio, as it has changed very recently.
Thanks,
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As recommended during anytime you pkg_add qemu, please use the ne2k_pci.
I've also had luck with model=rl8139.
Anything else is slightly experimental at best.
I suspect newer qemu has better code for fxp network card emulation, but for
now (i.e. until the newer qemu comes out) if you want
Hardly. It's syntactic sugar twiddling the port into better compliance
with porting standards. I see no kqemu here.. nor code changes..
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I forgot to say 'bump PKGNAME' but I did that anyway..
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Thanks for sending the diff. Mind sending one that applies? I think your
mail app garbled it.
Thanks,
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Guys,
I think someone needs to point out the no_bindings and no_ap2 flavors.
With that most problems are solved, I suspect ;-)
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Kill the DRM! DIE DIE DIE
In theory, around Friday 25 April 2008 10:22:42 Deanna Phillips wrote:
Floor Terra [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
There are similar checks to prevent printing for example. You
only need to put return 1; in OkToPrint()[1]. It's trivial
to change the source and
I was cautious in how I enabled this for now. It does change
the codepath. I'd like to give the wider audience of ports testers
the benefit of giving feedback on this. In the absence of any issues
running qemu w/out kqemu, I'll consider it in a few weeks.
Thanks,
On Sunday 20 January 2008
Ok.
On Sunday 20 January 2008 04:42:13 Antoine Jacoutot wrote:
Hi.
This diff does some cleaning and add missing stuffs to the newly
imported kqemu port.
- add missing RCS tags
- respect $CC
- add NO_REGRESS
- s/$LOCALBASE/$PREFIX
- lowercase email
- hook to the build
- add _kqemu user
I'm leaning towards the twiddling of mutt/Makefile and afterwards we can
debate the fine points of to flavor or not to flavor .. as it is now,
flavor combinations people use regularly are not being built. That is
the major impetus behind collapsing compressed and sidebar into the main
mutt build.
So, anybody have _any_ comments?
I don't see why this would hurt, because these flavors add functionality
that is not enabled by default, one must add .muttrc entries to enable
them. These also (as Brad points out) do not alter the dependencies of
mutt in any way.
I'd like to hear comments, but
On Wednesday 25 July 2007 09:40:05 Stuart Henderson wrote:
On 2007/07/25 09:28, Todd T. Fries wrote:
I don't see why this would hurt, because these flavors add functionality
that is not enabled by default, one must add .muttrc entries to enable
them. These also (as Brad points out) do
a `pure mutt' port over adding
functionality that changes nothing unless enabled at runtime?
On Wednesday 25 July 2007 09:45:10 steven mestdagh wrote:
Todd T. Fries [2007-07-25, 09:28:33]:
So, anybody have _any_ comments?
I don't see why this would hurt, because these flavors add
permits reading but not writing to compressed mbox files.
In any event, if the warning is added to the Muttrc where those lines are
added, would that be sufficient?
On Wednesday 25 July 2007 11:01:14 Stuart Henderson wrote:
On 2007/07/25 09:59, Todd T. Fries wrote:
Taken in context, I think
:32PM -0500, Todd T. Fries wrote:
Since compressed and sidebar add not dependencies, and do not even do
anything unless you enable them via .muttrc, I vote to remove them as
flavors and add sasl as proposed below.
Any objections?
I like that, even using only sasl flavor.
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Simple, straightforward.
Index: bsd.port.mk
===
RCS file: /cvs/ports/infrastructure/mk/bsd.port.mk,v
retrieving revision 1.896
diff -u -r1.896 bsd.port.mk
--- bsd.port.mk 27 May 2007 11:53:39 - 1.896
+++ bsd.port.mk 27 May
I hesitate to mention this, but I think it should be mentioned.
There is an expat in src/. What are the plans for that? Would solve a lot
of `must install xbase in order to get expat' complaints. The counter is that
one already installs xbase to get libs.
I don't know if an `additional
Sorry for such long delays, here is the latest incorporation (I hope) of all
your feedback.
Thanks for testing,
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Just curious, how did you test? I tried to setup an account and I get segv's.
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I've already had one person verify it works (the one that requested I do this,
future upgrade to ggi) .. anybody else care to comment?
Thanks,
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Here is a diff that will permit you to try out qemu 0.9.0; I'm testing
this, and if you have any issues or successes please let me know.
This diff is also available at:
http://todd.fries.net/ports/qemu-0.9.0.diff
Thanks to Enache Adrian for the diff to get past their new AIO code
and
This is a port of the:
Viewer for Second Life, a 3-D virtual world entirely built and
owned by its residents.
In the spirit of the ports tree, I find this interesting, therefore I ported
it. Currently, an i386-only port, I have not tested it on anything else.
I suspect some of you might
I have a port that I'm working on that requires a threaded version of apr.
Unfortunately, everything changes when apr enables threads, from package
config to WANTLIB to CFLAGS for dependent packages to headers that say
whether or not the libs were built with threads enabled or not.
So, bouncing
Between Kurt and Steven, I've gotten some good tips.
This builds and packages and installs properly, looking for any gotchas I've
missed.
Thanks!
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Here is a mailscanner port which has patches for the generic spam plugin
to filter mail via dspam.
I am aware there is a newer version of MailScanner out, but did not want that
to stop me from submitting this to let others have a look at what I've done
so far.
I definately agree with those previously stating that not all php code
supports php5 yet.
phpBB.com states 'running phpBB 2.0.x with PHP5 is not supported'
.. though there is evidence in their changelogs that they are working on
support for php5.
This is definately not the only codebase in the
I'll happily fix qemu. Stay tuned for a diff.
It's worth it to shave 15 lines of '+' in diffs, and cloneable devices are
the right direction to go in.
On Sunday 04 June 2006 06:34, Nikolay Sturm wrote:
* Pedro Martelletto [2006-06-03]:
This diff activates cloning for bpf(4). To test it, just
I will ok it by committing it. Please give me your MAINTAINER= line.
Thanks,
On Wednesday 01 February 2006 11:31, Stuart Henderson wrote:
On 2006/02/01 12:14, Ian Darwin wrote:
Whether they get it right this time or not, I do think we should commit
this now, well before the release. You've
learning to port something is quite different from mixing current and
stable.
The former is fine for this list, the latter is not fine for any OpenBSD
list.
Some of us charge money if you really want to do things not supportable
by OpenBSD (aka not enough desire/developer resources to even
any new threads, I've
come to realize it's hardly a useful test.. ;-)
Can Erkin Acar wrote:
On Tue, Dec 20, 2005 at 05:30:50PM -0600, Todd T. Fries wrote:
Please test, verified to build on i386 and amd64 thusfar.
See attachment or:
http://todd.fries.net/ports/qemu-0.8.0.tar.gz
Please test, verified to build on i386 and amd64 thusfar.
See attachment or:
http://todd.fries.net/ports/qemu-0.8.0.tar.gz
Thanks,
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Nope.
If anybody wants to suggest anything that I've missed, or take any of
these further, feel free.
Roy Morris wrote:
Anyone know of a SIP soft phone that works on Obsd? The
3.7 ports don't show any.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]/p8 5175$ ls telephony/
bayonne/ iax/ iaxcomm/ linphone/
It seems a bit odd to try to build qemu 7.2, I suspect 'qemu 0.7.2' is
meant. Because this was not available even as of 3.8, this is hardly a
supported situation.
update to current if you want to run current ports.
Nikolay Sturm wrote:
* Dave Feustel [2005-11-09]:
When I try to build
qemu does not currently read hard drive or cdrom devices on OpenBSD. Use
an image until this is fixed.
Dave Feustel wrote:
Qemu running on OpenBSD 3.7/3.8 looks like the
greatest thing since sliced bread, but I am having
no success getting the 3.7 qemu package to boot
from the OpenBSD 3.7
Yes it is annoying that gnucash uses such old stuff.
They are working on a branch that will use newer libs and such, they
have had to do quite a workaround due to several pieces not being
available anymore that they use.
Stay tuned, but they're quite understaffed over there, so they move
I suppose I should say something here.
I used the 2.x trees of evolution for some time, perhaps a year or so,
and while it would work most of the time, reliably would not describe
the experience.
I have not used it since mmap malloc, or since 3.7 came out, mainly. No
one I know uses either
I may be missing something, but is devel/mpi not worth considering?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
greetings,
i have the need for large amounts of parallel computing power
over a heterogeneous network of computers, and i'd like to be
able to do it using openbsd. as it currently stands, i have
an updated STLport I prepared, but the last time I tried
building OpenOffice against it, it seemed I could not figure out where
the right places were to insert the pieces to get OpenOffice to
recognize it outside the build tree...
Michael Schubert wrote:
On Jun 22, 2005, at 7:00 AM, Todd T. Fries
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