Re: SPF and greylisting conditioning

2010-10-02 Thread Eugene V. Boontseff
On 26.09.2010 13:24, Michal Bruncko wrote: Hello list I am using postfix (v 2.7.0) with sender policy framework (postfix-policyd-spf-perl-2.001) and greylisting (postgrey-1.32) with following configuration: smtpd_recipient_restrictions = ... check_policy_service unix:private/policy

Re: SPF and greylisting conditioning

2010-09-29 Thread Michal Bruncko
Hello On 29. 9. 2010 0:05, Stan Hoeppner wrote: Henrik K put forth on 9/28/2010 12:28 AM: On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 03:12:01PM -0500, Stan Hoeppner wrote: Snowshoe spam will most probably pass greylisting too. Better not clutter greylisting database with useless things. Have the blacklists

Re: SPF and greylisting conditioning

2010-09-29 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Michal Bruncko put forth on 9/29/2010 4:03 AM: I mean automatically accepted by postfix, but not automatically forwarded to mailboxes. My idea lies on principle, that if sender have valid SPF record, there is no need to greylist (and delaying mail receiving), but... SPF and greylisting are

Re: SPF and greylisting conditioning

2010-09-29 Thread Michal Bruncko
Thank you for hint. It seems that this soft is also included in my distro repository (fedora), perfect! :) michal On 29. 9. 2010 11:36, Stan Hoeppner wrote: Michal Bruncko put forth on 9/29/2010 4:03 AM: I mean automatically accepted by postfix, but not automatically forwarded to mailboxes.

Re: SPF and greylisting conditioning

2010-09-28 Thread Mikael Bak
Stan Hoeppner wrote: Mikael Bak put forth on 9/27/2010 6:18 AM: Stan Hoeppner wrote: Michal Bruncko put forth on 9/26/2010 4:24 AM: It is possible in some way to configure postfix, that SPF Passed mails will be automatically accepted with postfix without greylisting? If I may be blunt:

Re: SPF and greylisting conditioning

2010-09-28 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Henrik K put forth on 9/28/2010 12:28 AM: On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 03:12:01PM -0500, Stan Hoeppner wrote: Snowshoe spam will most probably pass greylisting too. Better not clutter greylisting database with useless things. Have the blacklists block'em instead. I don't follow your logic here.

Re: SPF and greylisting conditioning

2010-09-28 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Mikael Bak put forth on 9/28/2010 4:25 AM: Stan Hoeppner wrote: Mikael Bak put forth on 9/27/2010 6:18 AM: Stan Hoeppner wrote: Michal Bruncko put forth on 9/26/2010 4:24 AM: It is possible in some way to configure postfix, that SPF Passed mails will be automatically accepted with postfix

Re: SPF and greylisting conditioning

2010-09-27 Thread Stan Hoeppner
-- From: mouss mo...@ml.netoyen.net Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2010 1:38 PM To: postfix-users@postfix.org Subject: Re: SPF and greylisting conditioning Le 26/09/2010 12:08, Stan Hoeppner a écrit : Michal Bruncko put forth on 9/26/2010 4:24 AM: It is possible

Re: SPF and greylisting conditioning

2010-09-27 Thread Mikael Bak
Stan Hoeppner wrote: Michal Bruncko put forth on 9/26/2010 4:24 AM: It is possible in some way to configure postfix, that SPF Passed mails will be automatically accepted with postfix without greylisting? If I may be blunt: this is a really dumb idea. Many, maybe all, snowshoe spammers

Re: SPF and greylisting conditioning

2010-09-27 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Mikael Bak put forth on 9/27/2010 6:18 AM: Stan Hoeppner wrote: Michal Bruncko put forth on 9/26/2010 4:24 AM: It is possible in some way to configure postfix, that SPF Passed mails will be automatically accepted with postfix without greylisting? If I may be blunt: this is a really dumb

Re: SPF and greylisting conditioning

2010-09-27 Thread mouss
Le 27/09/2010 00:30, junkyardma...@frontier.com a écrit : Which makes their domain an easy target for block lists. http://www.spamhaus.org/query/dbl?domain=takeprettypictures.net I doubt they were listed becase of their spf record. but anyway, that would be coming late to the race again.

Re: SPF and greylisting conditioning

2010-09-27 Thread mouss
Le 27/09/2010 22:12, Stan Hoeppner a écrit : Mikael Bak put forth on 9/27/2010 6:18 AM: Stan Hoeppner wrote: Michal Bruncko put forth on 9/26/2010 4:24 AM: It is possible in some way to configure postfix, that SPF Passed mails will be automatically accepted with postfix without greylisting?

Re: SPF and greylisting conditioning

2010-09-27 Thread Henrik K
On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 03:12:01PM -0500, Stan Hoeppner wrote: Snowshoe spam will most probably pass greylisting too. Better not clutter greylisting database with useless things. Have the blacklists block'em instead. I don't follow your logic here. Yes, most snowshoe is sent from real

SPF and greylisting conditioning

2010-09-26 Thread Michal Bruncko
Hello list I am using postfix (v 2.7.0) with sender policy framework (postfix-policyd-spf-perl-2.001) and greylisting (postgrey-1.32) with following configuration: smtpd_recipient_restrictions = ... check_policy_service unix:private/policy check_policy_service

Re: SPF and greylisting conditioning

2010-09-26 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Michal Bruncko put forth on 9/26/2010 4:24 AM: It is possible in some way to configure postfix, that SPF Passed mails will be automatically accepted with postfix without greylisting? If I may be blunt: this is a really dumb idea. Many, maybe all, snowshoe spammers have valid SPF records.

Re: SPF and greylisting conditioning

2010-09-26 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 09/26/10 05:24, Michal Bruncko wrote: Hello list I am using postfix (v 2.7.0) with sender policy framework (postfix-policyd-spf-perl-2.001) and greylisting (postgrey-1.32) with following configuration: smtpd_recipient_restrictions = ... check_policy_service unix:private/policy

Re: SPF and greylisting conditioning

2010-09-26 Thread mouss
Le 26/09/2010 12:08, Stan Hoeppner a écrit : Michal Bruncko put forth on 9/26/2010 4:24 AM: It is possible in some way to configure postfix, that SPF Passed mails will be automatically accepted with postfix without greylisting? If I may be blunt: this is a really dumb idea. Many, maybe

Re: SPF and greylisting conditioning

2010-09-26 Thread fakessh
Le dimanche 26 septembre 2010 22:38, mouss a écrit : Le 26/09/2010 12:08, Stan Hoeppner a écrit : Michal Bruncko put forth on 9/26/2010 4:24 AM: It is possible in some way to configure postfix, that SPF Passed mails will be automatically accepted with postfix without greylisting? If I

Re: SPF and greylisting conditioning

2010-09-26 Thread mouss
Le 26/09/2010 23:28, fakessh a écrit : Le dimanche 26 septembre 2010 22:38, mouss a écrit : Le 26/09/2010 12:08, Stan Hoeppner a écrit : Michal Bruncko put forth on 9/26/2010 4:24 AM: It is possible in some way to configure postfix, that SPF Passed mails will be automatically accepted

Re: SPF and greylisting conditioning

2010-09-26 Thread fakessh
Le dimanche 26 septembre 2010 23:46, mouss a écrit : Le 26/09/2010 23:28, fakessh a écrit : Le dimanche 26 septembre 2010 22:38, mouss a écrit : Le 26/09/2010 12:08, Stan Hoeppner a écrit : Michal Bruncko put forth on 9/26/2010 4:24 AM: It is possible in some way to configure

Re: SPF and greylisting conditioning

2010-09-26 Thread JunkYardMail1
and greylisting conditioning Le 26/09/2010 12:08, Stan Hoeppner a écrit : Michal Bruncko put forth on 9/26/2010 4:24 AM: It is possible in some way to configure postfix, that SPF Passed mails will be automatically accepted with postfix without greylisting? If I may be blunt: this is a really

Re: SPF and greylisting conditioning

2010-09-26 Thread Michal Bruncko
Hello Thank you for pointing me. It was just my quick idea but as you wrote, perhaps many spammers have valid spf records and thus, my spam checking will be less spam resistant. and Michael, thank you for your hint. On 26. 9. 2010 12:08, Stan Hoeppner wrote: Michal Bruncko put forth on

Re: SPF and greylisting conditioning

2010-09-26 Thread Henrik K
On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 12:49:40AM +0200, Michal Bruncko wrote: Hello Thank you for pointing me. It was just my quick idea but as you wrote, perhaps many spammers have valid spf records and thus, my spam checking will be less spam resistant. I have no problem not GREYLISTING things that