[PEDA] component pin dialogue

2003-11-19 Thread Protel Hell
The tutorial book refers to a component pin editor dialogue, yet does not tell how to get to it, nor does a search in help find this dialogue, how do you call this dialogue? _ Is your computer infected with a virus? Find out with

[PEDA] Another UF found

2003-11-19 Thread Leo Potjewijd
Hi all, I just came accross an 'undocumented feature': With just a schematic and a textfile open (schematic active), I printed the schematic and then switched to the textfile. When I hit the printer button to print the textfile the PC rebooted. I can not remember if I printed the text some

Re: [PEDA] Utility to count SMD/Through-hole components

2003-11-19 Thread HxEngr
In a message dated 11/18/2003 4:19:53 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The Protel 99SE has a Report Generating Mechanism for BOM creation. I want an add-on utility or a process script that can separately count the number of SMD and Through-hole components. Can

Re: [PEDA] Utility to count SMD/Through-hole components

2003-11-19 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 04:38 AM 11/18/2003, you wrote: The Protel 99SE has a Report Generating Mechanism for BOM creation. I want an add-on utility or a process script that can separately count the number of SMD and Through-hole components. Can someone comment on it ?. The Protel database does not contain

Re: [PEDA] Utility to count SMD/Through-hole components

2003-11-19 Thread Dennis Saputelli
are you speaking of the schematic BOM or the PCB BOM ? either way there is no way (that i know of) to automatically distinguish an SMD part from a TH part perhaps if the schematic part had a part field filled out SMD or TH it would be a help since to build your bd you will need to construct a

Re: [PEDA] Utility to count SMD/Through-hole components

2003-11-19 Thread Leo Potjewijd
At 19/11/2003 01:09, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote (among other things): (2) If any of the pads of a component are through-hole pads (on Multilayer), the component is a through-hole component. snip-snip It is rare, however, that a surface mount component would have any through-hole pads associated

Re: [PEDA] Another UF found - update

2003-11-19 Thread Steve Wiseman
18/11/2003 20:35:57, Leo Potjewijd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just thought I'd mention it: updating the printer driver with the latest one from the HP website does not resolve the problem completely. The system no longer crashes, but the weird output is still there.. Yeah - I've seen

Re: [PEDA] Another UF found - update

2003-11-19 Thread Dennis Saputelli
yeah i agree (although i haven't seen this particular bug) 'just say no' to the protel text editor it's not very good and too idiosyncratic anyway and yes UltraEdit is the best! Dennis Saputelli Steve Wiseman wrote: 18/11/2003 20:35:57, Leo Potjewijd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just

Re: [PEDA] component pin dialogue

2003-11-19 Thread Tony Karavidas
Have you opened the library containing the part? You can't edit the pin directly in the sch. It has to be done in the lib, but first you need to add the lib to a DDB file. -Original Message- From: Protel Hell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 7:54 AM To: [EMAIL

Re: [PEDA] Another UF found

2003-11-19 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 02:18 PM 11/18/2003, Leo Potjewijd wrote: With just a schematic and a textfile open (schematic active), I printed the schematic and then switched to the textfile. When I hit the printer button to print the textfile the PC rebooted. I can not remember if I printed the text some time earlier in

Re: [PEDA] Utility to count SMD/Through-hole components

2003-11-19 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 07:09 PM 11/18/2003, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote: It is rare, however, that a surface mount component would have any through-hole pads associated with it. Vias, yes, maybe, pads, no. (Of course, Protel treats vias and pads somewhat interchangeably, but one could ordinarily choose to use vias

Re: [PEDA] Utility to count SMD/Through-hole components

2003-11-19 Thread John Haddy
However, things like guide pins may require pads rather than vias in order to be non plated (the fact of being unplated provides a sorting method, though). There's also issues with connectors such as AMP's Mictor series (such as are used for Agilent logic analyser pod connections) which have

Re: [PEDA] Logo and non-English characters on PCB documents in DXP

2003-11-19 Thread Zoran A. Scepanovic
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Re: [PEDA] Utility to count SMD/Through-hole components

2003-11-19 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 05:35 AM 11/19/2003, Leo Potjewijd wrote: At 19/11/2003 01:09, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote (among other things): [a list of assumptions] I must say that these statements are not entirely correct: many SMD connectors need holes in the PCB for positioning or letting the mating part through. I

Re: [PEDA] Logo and non-English characters on PCB documents in DXP

2003-11-19 Thread William Dager
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Re: [PEDA] Another UF found - update

2003-11-19 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 12:08 PM 11/19/2003, Dennis Saputelli wrote: yeah i agree (although i haven't seen this particular bug) 'just say no' to the protel text editor it's not very good and too idiosyncratic anyway I think the text editor has some problems with fonts You can set the font that is displayed, but

Re: [PEDA] Another UF found

2003-11-19 Thread Thomas
I experienced this exact same problem two days ago (HP LaserJet 1200). I wondered what caused the huge text the first time I tried to print a BOM. -Original Message- From: Leo Potjewijd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 19 November 2003 06:18 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:

Re: [PEDA] Utility to count SMD/Through-hole components

2003-11-19 Thread Steve Wiseman
19/11/2003 21:45:18, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: However, another, perhaps more practical and safer alternative would be to generate three lists: SMT, through-hole, and possibly mixed. The large majority of components would orginarily not be ambiguous. Since this is all to

Re: [PEDA] Another UF found

2003-11-19 Thread Steve Wiseman
19/11/2003 21:41:11, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, the documentation is not adequate for that yet. Yes, *something* is wrong, but it is unlikely -- though not impossible -- that the problem is with Protel. It might not be a bug or defect at all, just some random

Re: [PEDA] Logo and non-English characters on PCB documents in DX P

2003-11-19 Thread Terry Creer
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Re: [PEDA] Logo and non-English characters on PCB documents in DX P

2003-11-19 Thread William Dager
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Re: [PEDA] Utility to count SMD/Through-hole components

2003-11-19 Thread Dennis Saputelli
smd pad count is usually wanted (for quote purposes) for test reasons (SMD pad count can be reckoned easily from BOARD INFORMATION report) drill hole count these days is usually not a factor unless holes per square inch exceed some very high densisty which is not typically encountered (possibly