Re: RDFa vs RDF/XML and content negotiation

2009-06-24 Thread Danny Ayers
Thank you for the excellent questions, Bill. Right now IMHO the best bet is probably just to pick whichever format you are most comfortable with (yup it depends) and use that as the single source, transforming perhaps with scripts to generate the alternate representations for conneg. As far as

Redundancy (was Re: RDFa vs RDF/XML and content negotiation)

2009-06-24 Thread Danny Ayers
2009/6/24 Ivan Herman i...@w3.org: With the increasing popularity of RDFa our system guys have already complained about sudden server request surges on that service. Ie, although it is fine to use the service as it is in the .htaccess example (with full URI-s, though) if you (or anybody

Re: LOD Data Sets, Licensing, and AWS

2009-06-24 Thread Leigh Dodds
Hi, 2009/6/23 Kingsley Idehen kide...@openlinksw.com: All, As you may have noticed, AWS still haven't made the LOD cloud data sets  -- that I submitted eons ago -- public. Basically, the hold-up comes down to discomfort with the lack of license clarity re. some of the data sets. Yes, this

Re: LOD Data Sets, Licensing, and AWS

2009-06-24 Thread Rob Styles
On 24 Jun 2009, at 00:04, Peter Ansell wrote: 2009/6/24 Ian Davis li...@iandavis.com On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 11:11 PM, Kingsley Idehen kide...@openlinksw.com wrote: Using licensing to ensure the data providers URIs are always preserved delivers low cost and implicit attribution. This is

Re: http://ld2sd.deri.org/lod-ng-tutorial/

2009-06-24 Thread Danny Ayers
While we could have countless arguments over the appropriateness of DL (or OWL 2) in the Web environment, the bottom line is whether or not owl:imports adds useful information - seems hard to see a problem with that, whether agents can reason or not. The follow your nose thing. What's the problem

Re: Redundancy (was Re: RDFa vs RDF/XML and content negotiation)

2009-06-24 Thread Danny Ayers
2009/6/24 Ivan Herman i...@w3.org: Unfortunately, no:-( concise, but to the point, thanks :) -- http://danny.ayers.name

Re: LOD Data Sets, Licensing, and AWS

2009-06-24 Thread Hilmar Lapp
On Jun 23, 2009, at 7:04 PM, Peter Ansell wrote: Interestingly, there is a large economy involved with patenting gene sequences. Aren't they facts also? Why is patenting different to copyright in this respect? It isn't. I don't know of any gene sequence patent that was just that and

RE: RDFa vs RDF/XML and content negotiation

2009-06-24 Thread bill.roberts
Ivan Thanks very much. I'll take a look at your python scripts, which should be very useful. Cheers Bill Van: Ivan Herman [mailto:i...@w3.org] Verzonden: wo 24-6-2009 9:14 Aan: Bill Roberts CC: public-lod@w3.org Onderwerp: Re: RDFa vs RDF/XML and

Re: RDFa vs RDF/XML and content negotiation

2009-06-24 Thread Danny Ayers
Ivan, two words : more python! 2009/6/24 bill.robe...@planet.nl: Ivan Thanks very much.  I'll take a look at your python scripts, which should be very useful. Cheers Bill Van: Ivan Herman [mailto:i...@w3.org] Verzonden: wo 24-6-2009 9:14 Aan: Bill

Re: LOD Data Sets, Licensing, and AWS

2009-06-24 Thread Ian Davis
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 4:05 PM, Kingsley Idehen kide...@openlinksw.comwrote: My comments are still fundamentally about my preference for CC-BY-SA. Hence the transcopyright reference :-) I want Linked Data to have its GPL equivalent; a license scheme that: Have you read the licenses at

Re: LOD Data Sets, Licensing, and AWS

2009-06-24 Thread Leigh Dodds
2009/6/24 Kingsley Idehen kide...@openlinksw.com: My comments are still fundamentally about my preference for CC-BY-SA.  Hence the transcopyright reference :-) Unfortunately your preference doesn't actually it make it legally applicable to data and databases. The problem, as I see it, at the

Re: LOD Data Sets, Licensing, and AWS

2009-06-24 Thread Kingsley Idehen
Leigh Dodds wrote: 2009/6/24 Kingsley Idehen kide...@openlinksw.com: My comments are still fundamentally about my preference for CC-BY-SA. Hence the transcopyright reference :-) Unfortunately your preference doesn't actually it make it legally applicable to data and databases. The

Re: Contd LOD Data Sets, Licensing, and AWS

2009-06-24 Thread Kingsley Idehen
Leigh Dodds wrote: Hi, 2009/6/24 Kingsley Idehen kide...@openlinksw.com: Kingsley Idehen wrote: Leigh Dodds wrote: Hi, 2009/6/24 Kingsley Idehen kide...@openlinksw.com: To save time etc.. What is the URI of a license that effectively enables data publishers to

Re: LOD Data Sets, Licensing, and AWS

2009-06-24 Thread Kingsley Idehen
Alan Ruttenberg wrote: Kingsley, Encouraging attribution by URI is a bad idea because it encourages people or organizations to create URIs where perfectly good ones exist, solely so that they can get their attribution. Were this no cost, I wouldn't mind. But having more than one URI for a

The Public Domain (was Re: LOD Data Sets, Licensing, and AWS)

2009-06-24 Thread Ian Davis
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 9:56 PM, Kingsley Idehen kide...@openlinksw.comwrote: The NYT, London Times, and others of this ilk, are more likely to contribute their quality data to the LOD cloud if they know there is a vehicle (e.g., a license scheme) that ensures their HTTP URIs are protected

Re: Contd LOD Data Sets, Licensing, and AWS

2009-06-24 Thread Kingsley Idehen
Ian Davis wrote: On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 7:40 PM, Kingsley Idehen kide...@openlinksw.com mailto:kide...@openlinksw.com wrote: I stand by my position, we are adhering to their terms. What they seek is de-referencable via their URIs which remain in scope at both the data

Re: Contd LOD Data Sets, Licensing, and AWS

2009-06-24 Thread Danny Ayers
2009/6/25 Ian Davis li...@iandavis.com: I think the onus is on the consumer to ensure they abide with the supplier's wishes, not the other way round. It's really a matter or respect and politeness to give people the credit they ask for. Certainly in principle, but the supplier should know