Re: Linking HTML pages and data

2010-02-17 Thread Sean Bechhofer
On 16 Feb 2010, at 23:13, Pat Hayes wrote: On Feb 16, 2010, at 6:39 AM, Sean Bechhofer wrote: LODders A simple (possibly dumb) question. Is there a standard mechanism for linking an HTML page to the non-information resource that it describes? Um. OK, I have an equally dumb question

Re: Linking HTML pages and data

2010-02-17 Thread Ian Davis
On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 2:01 AM, Kingsley Idehen kide...@openlinksw.com wrote: I really don't believe we achieve much via: link rel=primarytopic href=http://education.data.gov.uk/id/school/56; / primarytopic isn't an IANA registered type link. Yes, I know. Nor is foaf:primaytopic :) I

Re: Terminology when talking about Linked Data

2010-02-17 Thread Danny Ayers
PS. http://www.w3.org/DesignIssues/LinkedData.html On 17 February 2010 12:00, Danny Ayers danny.ay...@gmail.com wrote: For a definition of Linked Data I'd suggest anything that conforms to timbl's Linked Data expectations:   1. Use URIs as names for things   2. Use HTTP URIs so that people

Re: Terminology when talking about Linked Data

2010-02-17 Thread Danny Ayers
For a definition of Linked Data I'd suggest anything that conforms to timbl's Linked Data expectations: 1. Use URIs as names for things 2. Use HTTP URIs so that people can look up those names. 3. When someone looks up a URI, provide useful information, using the standards (RDF, SPARQL)

Re: Terminology when talking about Linked Data

2010-02-17 Thread Hugh Glaser
Wow Nathan, that's an interesting set of reactions - we could go off and discuss them, but I will give my 3 cents on the original question. I too have difficulty with customers on the Open word. Open can mean a few things, and some of the posters here seem to interpret it to mean open standards.

Re: Terminology when talking about Linked Data

2010-02-17 Thread Dan Brickley
On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 12:51 PM, Damian Steer d.st...@bristol.ac.uk wrote: Historical aside: On 17/02/10 11:20, Hugh Glaser wrote: More recently I have also badged as Web of Data; See [1], since 1998 :-) It's been used fairly regularly since then, although I'd highlight [2] as a

Re: Terminology when talking about Linked Data

2010-02-17 Thread Kingsley Idehen
Nathan wrote: Hi All, Other than the obvious - Linking Open Data = The name of W3C Community Project - I'm wondering which terminology to use where when talking about (what I'll term Linked Data for now). To me, Linked Data represents the uri uri uri triples; the thing at the core of it, which

Re: Linking HTML pages and data

2010-02-17 Thread Kingsley Idehen
Ed Summers wrote: On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 5:51 PM, Ian Davis li...@iandavis.com wrote: You can see it in use on data.gov.uk: http://education.data.gov.uk/doc/school/56 contains: link rel=primarytopic href=http://education.data.gov.uk/id/school/56; / Wow, thanks Ian. I

Re: Linking HTML pages and data

2010-02-17 Thread Michael Hausenblas
Kingsley, Ed, We need a document that covers the following: 1. Linked Data Auto Discovery Patterns 2. How to associate documents with the things they describe. Agree. I've started a document at [1] now - please dump your ideas, thoughts, requirements, etc. there and I'll take care of

Re: Terminology when talking about Linked Data

2010-02-17 Thread Kingsley Idehen
Dan Brickley wrote: On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 12:51 PM, Damian Steer d.st...@bristol.ac.uk wrote: Historical aside: On 17/02/10 11:20, Hugh Glaser wrote: More recently I have also badged as Web of Data; See [1], since 1998 :-) It's been used fairly regularly since then,

Re: Linking HTML pages and data

2010-02-17 Thread Kingsley Idehen
Michael Hausenblas wrote: Kingsley, Ed, We need a document that covers the following: 1. Linked Data Auto Discovery Patterns 2. How to associate documents with the things they describe. Agree. I've started a document at [1] now - please dump your ideas, thoughts, requirements, etc.

Re: Terminology when talking about Linked Data

2010-02-17 Thread Nathan
Hugh Glaser wrote: Wow Nathan, that's an interesting set of reactions - we could go off and discuss them, but I will give my 3 cents on the original question. I too have difficulty with customers on the Open word. Open can mean a few things, and some of the posters here seem to interpret it

Re: Terminology when talking about Linked Data

2010-02-17 Thread Nathan
Dan Brickley wrote: On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 12:51 PM, Damian Steer d.st...@bristol.ac.uk wrote: Historical aside: On 17/02/10 11:20, Hugh Glaser wrote: More recently I have also badged as Web of Data; See [1], since 1998 :-) It's been used fairly regularly since then, although I'd

Re: Terminology when talking about Linked Data

2010-02-17 Thread Pat Hayes
On Feb 17, 2010, at 6:37 AM, Dan Brickley wrote: ... . RDF was originally standardised as a metadata system, a mechanism for finding stuff ... whether that stuff was photos, videos, HTML pages, excel spreadsheets, SQL databases, 3d models. ... Really? That was not the impression I got when I

Re: Terminology when talking about Linked Data

2010-02-17 Thread Kingsley Idehen
Nathan wrote: Hugh Glaser wrote: Wow Nathan, that's an interesting set of reactions - we could go off and discuss them, but I will give my 3 cents on the original question. I too have difficulty with customers on the Open word. Open can mean a few things, and some of the posters here seem

Re: Terminology when talking about Linked Data

2010-02-17 Thread Nathan
Kingsley Idehen wrote: Nathan wrote: Hugh Glaser wrote: Wow Nathan, that's an interesting set of reactions - we could go off and discuss them, but I will give my 3 cents on the original question. I too have difficulty with customers on the Open word. Open can mean a few things, and some

Re: Terminology when talking about Linked Data

2010-02-17 Thread Kingsley Idehen
Nathan wrote: Dan Brickley wrote: On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 12:51 PM, Damian Steer d.st...@bristol.ac.uk wrote: Historical aside: On 17/02/10 11:20, Hugh Glaser wrote: More recently I have also badged as Web of Data; See [1], since 1998 :-) It's been used fairly

Re: Terminology when talking about Linked Data

2010-02-17 Thread Kingsley Idehen
Pat Hayes wrote: On Feb 17, 2010, at 6:37 AM, Dan Brickley wrote: ... . RDF was originally standardised as a metadata system, a mechanism for finding stuff ... whether that stuff was photos, videos, HTML pages, excel spreadsheets, SQL databases, 3d models. ... Really? That was not the

Re: Terminology when talking about Linked Data

2010-02-17 Thread Pat Hayes
On Feb 17, 2010, at 11:36 AM, Kingsley Idehen wrote: Pat Hayes wrote: On Feb 17, 2010, at 6:37 AM, Dan Brickley wrote: ... . RDF was originally standardised as a metadata system, a mechanism for finding stuff ... whether that stuff was photos, videos, HTML pages, excel spreadsheets, SQL

Re: Terminology when talking about Linked Data

2010-02-17 Thread Kingsley Idehen
Pat Hayes wrote: On Feb 17, 2010, at 11:36 AM, Kingsley Idehen wrote: Pat Hayes wrote: On Feb 17, 2010, at 6:37 AM, Dan Brickley wrote: ... . RDF was originally standardised as a metadata system, a mechanism for finding stuff ... whether that stuff was photos, videos, HTML pages, excel

Contd: Terminology when talking about Linked Data

2010-02-17 Thread Kingsley Idehen
Pat Hayes wrote: On Feb 17, 2010, at 11:36 AM, Kingsley Idehen wrote: Pat Hayes wrote: On Feb 17, 2010, at 6:37 AM, Dan Brickley wrote: ... . RDF was originally standardised as a metadata system, a mechanism for finding stuff ... whether that stuff was photos, videos, HTML pages, excel

Re: Terminology when talking about Linked Data

2010-02-17 Thread Dan Brickley
On 17 Feb 2010, at 18:14, Pat Hayes pha...@ihmc.us wrote: On Feb 17, 2010, at 6:37 AM, Dan Brickley wrote: ... . RDF was originally standardised as a metadata system, a mechanism for finding stuff ... whether that stuff was photos, videos, HTML pages, excel spreadsheets, SQL

Re: Terminology when talking about Linked Data

2010-02-17 Thread Kingsley Idehen
Danny Ayers wrote: For a definition of Linked Data I'd suggest anything that conforms to timbl's Linked Data expectations: 1. Use URIs as names for things 2. Use HTTP URIs so that people can look up those names. 3. When someone looks up a URI, provide useful information, using the