Re: Schema.org in RDF ...

2011-06-13 Thread David Booth
On Sun, 2011-06-12 at 05:51 -0400, Alan Ruttenberg wrote: David, as you know, it is trivial to distinguish in representation the difference between an information object and a person. Correct. And that distinction is important to some apps and not to others. I am glad we agree. We

Re: Schema.org in RDF ...

2011-06-13 Thread Richard Cyganiak
On 13 Jun 2011, at 00:20, Pat Hayes wrote: What do we say when the range of a property is supposed to be, say, people, but its considered OK to insert a string to stand in place of the person? Well, I can define a class that contains both people (in the foaf:Person sense) and names of

Re: Squaring the HTTP-range-14 circle [was Re: Schema.org in RDF ...]

2011-06-13 Thread Kingsley Idehen
On 6/13/11 1:28 AM, Pat Hayes wrote: But I don't think all this is really germane to the http-range-14 issue. The point there is, does the URI refer to something like a representation (information resource, website, document, RDF graph, whatever) or something which definitely canNOT be sent

Re: Squaring the HTTP-range-14 circle [was Re: Schema.org in RDF ...]

2011-06-13 Thread Kingsley Idehen
On 6/13/11 6:52 AM, Pat Hayes wrote: OK, I am now completely and utterly lost. I have no idea what you are saying or how any of it is relevant to the http-range-14 issue. Want to try running it past me again? Bear in mind that I do not accept your claim that a description of something is in

Re: Squaring the HTTP-range-14 circle [was Re: Schema.org in RDF ...]

2011-06-13 Thread Christopher Gutteridge
Before I comment, I just want to summarise my understanding because http-range-14 is a weird term; I understand it as the range-14 issue that when you use 302 to redirect from a URI-A to a URL-B we have a convention that URL-B has some relationship to URI-A but it's not defined, we don't

You and your projects at OKCon

2011-06-13 Thread Daniel Dietrich
Dear all, As you will be aware OKCon 2011 is approaching fast: June, 30th July, 1st We are delighted to announce the release of the OKCon 2011 programme: http://okcon.org/2011/programme We are also thrilled about the fantastic line up of speakers:

Re: Squaring the HTTP-range-14 circle

2011-06-13 Thread Richard Cyganiak
On 13 Jun 2011, at 09:59, Christopher Gutteridge wrote: The real problem seems to me that making resolvable, HTTP URIs for real world things was a clever but dirty hack and does not make any semantic sense. Well, you worry about *real-world things*, but even people who just worry about

Re: Squaring the HTTP-range-14 circle

2011-06-13 Thread Kingsley Idehen
On 6/13/11 12:41 PM, Richard Cyganiak wrote: On 13 Jun 2011, at 09:59, Christopher Gutteridge wrote: The real problem seems to me that making resolvable, HTTP URIs for real world things was a clever but dirty hack and does not make any semantic sense. Well, you worry about *real-world

Re: Squaring the HTTP-range-14 circle [was Re: Schema.org in RDF ...]

2011-06-13 Thread Pat Hayes
On Jun 13, 2011, at 1:51 PM, William Waites wrote: * [2011-06-12 22:52:18 -0700] Pat Hayes pha...@ihmc.us écrit: ] OK, I am now completely and utterly lost. I have no idea what you ] are saying or how any of it is relevant to the http-range-14 issue. ] Want to try running it past me

Re: Schema.org in RDF ...

2011-06-13 Thread Alan Ruttenberg
On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 7:50 AM, David Booth da...@dbooth.org wrote: On Sun, 2011-06-12 at 05:51 -0400, Alan Ruttenberg wrote: David, as you know, it is trivial to distinguish in representation the difference between an information object and a person. Correct.  And that distinction is