Qwiki was: Google Knowledge Graph Experiment

2012-05-18 Thread Henry Story
By the way, there are some other projects like http://www.qwiki.com/ that clearly do work semantically, and offer some of the features touted by google. Henry On 18 May 2012, at 09:36, Ivan Herman wrote: On May 18, 2012, at 06:51 , Eric Franzon wrote: Ivan, Actually, some modest

Re: Qwiki was: Google Knowledge Graph Experiment

2012-05-18 Thread Christos K
Hi there's also http://www.wolframalpha.com which has been around for ages. What is fascinating about Google though is that it will scale semantic search to boundaries that not many other projects can possibly handle or anticipate (both in terms of size and usage - queries, clickthrough data,

Re: Qwiki was: Google Knowledge Graph Experiment

2012-05-18 Thread adasal
I think I see the same situation everyone else does. Huge corporate chasing (as ever) share price. Closed system which may or may not have an API. Sweeping the mind of 'the many'. Meanwhile there are academics, open committees and some small businesses pursuing a more particular vision. What value

Re: Google Knowledge Graph Experiment

2012-05-18 Thread Kingsley Idehen
On 5/18/12 12:28 AM, Ivan Herman wrote: Kingsley, the problem is that, as usual, the GKG is a US centric thing for now, At least here in the Netherlands it does not seem to work yet. I don't know about that. It was a phased release for sure, but that's as far as I would go re. rollout

Re: Google Knowledge Graph Experiment

2012-05-18 Thread Kingsley Idehen
On 5/18/12 12:51 AM, Eric Franzon wrote: Ivan, Actually, some modest testing has shown something other than geography at play here. Earlier today, colleagues in London and California were able to see GKG rich data visualizations, while others in the US (myself included -- also in California)

Re: Google Knowledge Graph Experiment

2012-05-18 Thread Kingsley Idehen
On 5/18/12 3:36 AM, Ivan Herman wrote: On May 18, 2012, at 06:51 , Eric Franzon wrote: Ivan, Actually, some modest testing has shown something other than geography at play here. Earlier today, colleagues in London and California were able to see GKG rich data visualizations, while others in

Re: Google Knowledge Graph Experiment

2012-05-18 Thread Ivan Herman
On May 18, 2012, at 13:19 , Kingsley Idehen wrote: On 5/18/12 12:28 AM, Ivan Herman wrote: Kingsley, the problem is that, as usual, the GKG is a US centric thing for now, At least here in the Netherlands it does not seem to work yet. I don't know about that. It was a phased release for

Re: Qwiki was: Google Knowledge Graph Experiment

2012-05-18 Thread Henry Story
On 18 May 2012, at 13:05, adasal wrote: I think I see the same situation everyone else does. Huge corporate chasing (as ever) share price. yes, or trying to find ways of reducing the share price of others. Facebook's IPO is this week. Closed system which may or may not have an API.

Re: Introducing the Knowledge Graph: things, not strings

2012-05-18 Thread Steve Harris
Hi Dave, On 2012-05-17, at 16:56, David Wood wrote: Hi Steve, On May 17, 2012, at 11:18, Steve Harris wrote: On 2012-05-16, at 23:09, David Wood wrote: Still, Kingsley is right, too. We are certainly busier than we have ever been, with no clear end in sight. That's positive. It

Re: Introducing the Knowledge Graph: things, not strings

2012-05-18 Thread Hugh Glaser
+1 +1 On 18 May 2012, at 13:18, Steve Harris wrote: Hi Dave, On 2012-05-17, at 16:56, David Wood wrote: Hi Steve, On May 17, 2012, at 11:18, Steve Harris wrote: On 2012-05-16, at 23:09, David Wood wrote: Still, Kingsley is right, too. We are certainly busier than we have ever

Re: Google Knowledge Graph Experiment

2012-05-18 Thread Aidan Hogan
All, On 18/05/2012 05:51, Eric Franzon wrote: Actually, some modest testing has shown something other than geography at play here. Earlier today, colleagues in London and California were able to see GKG rich data visualizations, while others in the US (myself included -- also in California)

Re: Google Knowledge Graph Experiment

2012-05-18 Thread Kingsley Idehen
On 5/18/12 11:57 AM, Aidan Hogan wrote: All, On 18/05/2012 05:51, Eric Franzon wrote: Actually, some modest testing has shown something other than geography at play here. Earlier today, colleagues in London and California were able to see GKG rich data visualizations, while others in the US

Re: Google Knowledge Graph Experiment

2012-05-18 Thread Ivan Herman
Well... I tried this trick, but does not change a thing. Yes, the search happens on www.google.com, but I presume it knows that I am, hm, considered as Dutch and sticks to its guns: I see nothing of the GKG on my screen. Ivan On May 18, 2012, at 17:57 , Aidan Hogan wrote: All, On

Re: Google Knowledge Graph Experiment

2012-05-18 Thread Tim Berners-Lee
Nor for me in Massachusetts On 2012-05 -18, at 12:45, Ivan Herman wrote: Well... I tried this trick, but does not change a thing. Yes, the search happens on www.google.com, but I presume it knows that I am, hm, considered as Dutch and sticks to its guns: I see nothing of the GKG on my

Re: Google Knowledge Graph Experiment

2012-05-18 Thread ProjectParadigm-ICT-Program
What should the sidebar look like? Do you have a screenshot?   Milton Ponson GSM: +297 747 8280 PO Box 1154, Oranjestad Aruba, Dutch Caribbean Project Paradigm: A structured approach to bringing the tools for sustainable development to all stakeholders worldwide by creating ICT tools for NGOs

Re: Google Knowledge Graph Experiment

2012-05-18 Thread Eric Franzon
I also am still not getting to view GKG enrichments either. It truly seems to be a gradual roll-out (as Google confirmed to us yesterday: http://semanticweb.com/google-knowledge-graph-interview_b29172). I have tried all three of my Google accounts, all of which have completed profiles, but to no

Re: Google Knowledge Graph Experiment

2012-05-18 Thread Eric Franzon
Although, really, if TimBL doesn't yet see anything as he just reported, that may shoot the influence hypothesis right out of the water. ;) Cheers, --Eric On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 10:39 AM, Eric Franzon e...@semanticweb.com wrote: I also am still not getting to view GKG enrichments either. It

Re: Google Knowledge Graph Experiment

2012-05-18 Thread David Wood
...or feed an interesting conspiracy theory :) Regards, Dave On May 18, 2012, at 13:41, Eric Franzon wrote: Although, really, if TimBL doesn't yet see anything as he just reported, that may shoot the influence hypothesis right out of the water. ;) Cheers, --Eric On Fri, May 18,

Re: Google Knowledge Graph Experiment

2012-05-18 Thread Aidan Hogan
On 18/05/2012 18:32, ProjectParadigm-ICT-Program wrote: What should the sidebar look like? Do you have a screenshot? There's an article with a screenshot available here: http://news.cnet.com/8301-1023_3-57436828-93/google-knowledge-graph-hands-on-the-webs-tail-is-long-indeed/ If you click on

Re: Google Knowledge Graph Experiment

2012-05-18 Thread Juan Sequeda
It finally works for me. First thing I tried was Paris Hilton and Hilton Paris, which is always the simple of example of lack of semantics on the web that I tell people like my mom. Actually, I'm disappointed with what I got. https://twitter.com/#!/juansequeda/status/203548313318985729 On Fri,

RE: Google Knowledge Graph Experiment

2012-05-18 Thread Joshi, Amit Krishna
I found this old article about kngine in VentureBeat (http://venturebeat.com/2010/08/09/kngine-semantic-search/). Does anyone know how far they have been successful in bringing similar Knowledge Graph to the masses? After few random 'entity' queries I did on both, I found it worth spreading

Re: Google Knowledge Graph Experiment

2012-05-18 Thread Kingsley Idehen
On 5/18/12 1:32 PM, ProjectParadigm-ICT-Program wrote: What should the sidebar look like? Do you have a screenshot? Here are some posts that ultimately get you to context and pictures: 1. http://goo.gl/CH3qj -- my latest post about Google Knowledge Graph in relation to Linked Data and the

Re: Google Knowledge Graph Experiment

2012-05-18 Thread Kingsley Idehen
On 5/18/12 1:39 PM, Eric Franzon wrote: I also am still not getting to view GKG enrichments either. It truly seems to be a gradual roll-out (as Google confirmed to us yesterday: http://semanticweb.com/google-knowledge-graph-interview_b29172). I have tried all three of my Google accounts, all

Re: Google Knowledge Graph Experiment

2012-05-18 Thread Kingsley Idehen
On 5/18/12 2:12 PM, Juan Sequeda wrote: It finally works for me. First thing I tried was Paris Hilton and Hilton Paris, which is always the simple of example of lack of semantics on the web that I tell people like my mom. Actually, I'm disappointed with what I got.

Re: Google Knowledge Graph Experiment

2012-05-18 Thread Jürgen Jakobitsch
did you mean sphinx to rings? wkr j - Original Message - From: Kingsley Idehen kide...@openlinksw.com To: Eric Franzon e...@semanticweb.com Cc: Ivan Herman i...@w3.org, Aidan Hogan aidan.ho...@deri.org, public-lod@w3.org, semantic-...@w3.org, public-...@w3.org Sent: Friday, May 18, 2012

Re: Google Knowledge Graph Experiment

2012-05-18 Thread Gannon Dick
http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/technology/google-revamps-search-adds-encyclopedia-like-entries-with-awareness-of-the-real-world/2012/05/16/gIQAe0twTU_story.html From: ProjectParadigm-ICT-Program metadataport...@yahoo.com To: Kingsley Idehen

Re: Google Knowledge Graph Experiment

2012-05-18 Thread Kingsley Idehen
On 5/18/12 2:21 PM, Joshi, Amit Krishna wrote: I found this old article about kngine in VentureBeat (http://venturebeat.com/2010/08/09/kngine-semantic-search/). Does anyone know how far they have been successful in bringing similar Knowledge Graph to the masses? After few random 'entity'

Re: Google Knowledge Graph Experiment

2012-05-18 Thread Kingsley Idehen
On 5/18/12 3:05 PM, Jürgen Jakobitsch wrote: did you mean sphinx to rings? LOL! Strings to Things that are Nameless Kingsley wkr j - Original Message - From: Kingsley Idehenkide...@openlinksw.com To: Eric Franzone...@semanticweb.com Cc: Ivan Hermani...@w3.org, Aidan

Re: Google Knowledge Graph Experiment

2012-05-18 Thread Kingsley Idehen
On 5/18/12 3:11 PM, Gannon Dick wrote: http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/technology/google-revamps-search-adds-encyclopedia-like-entries-with-awareness-of-the-real-world/2012/05/16/gIQAe0twTU_story.html I like the fact that the Washington Post uses rNews :-) See: 1.

Re: Google Knowledge Graph Experiment

2012-05-18 Thread adasal
That's because it knows you are TBL? -:) On 18 May 2012 18:31, Tim Berners-Lee ti...@w3.org wrote: Nor for me in Massachusetts On 2012-05 -18, at 12:45, Ivan Herman wrote: Well... I tried this trick, but does not change a thing. Yes, the search happens on www.google.com, but I presume it

Re: Google Knowledge Graph Experiment

2012-05-18 Thread Jürgen Jakobitsch
for info : gkg just arrived in klagenfurt, austria (logged in to g+ on openSuse/firefox) my search behaviour since yesterday might have helped :) wkr j - Original Message - From: Kingsley Idehen kide...@openlinksw.com To: public-lod@w3.org, semantic-...@w3.org, public-...@w3.org Sent:

Re: Google Knowledge Graph Experiment

2012-05-18 Thread Enrique Pérez Arnaud
2012/5/18 Kingsley Idehen kide...@openlinksw.com On 5/18/12 1:41 PM, Eric Franzon wrote: Although, really, if TimBL doesn't yet see anything as he just reported, that may shoot the influence hypothesis right out of the water. ;) Quite the contrary, you over simplify :-) That's a little

Re: Google Knowledge Graph Experiment

2012-05-18 Thread Kingsley Idehen
On 5/18/12 6:30 PM, Jürgen Jakobitsch wrote: for info : gkg just arrived in klagenfurt, austria (logged in to g+ on openSuse/firefox) my search behaviour since yesterday might have helped :) Interesting dimension you add. I *theorize* that a majority of folks that couldn't see it yesterday,

Re: Google Knowledge Graph Experiment

2012-05-18 Thread Kingsley Idehen
On 5/18/12 6:33 PM, Enrique Pérez Arnaud wrote: 2012/5/18 Kingsley Idehen kide...@openlinksw.com mailto:kide...@openlinksw.com On 5/18/12 1:41 PM, Eric Franzon wrote: Although, really, if TimBL doesn't yet see anything as he just reported, that may shoot the influence