Re: Content negotiation for Turtle files

2013-02-06 Thread Ivan Herman
Bernard, (forget my W3C hat, I am not authoritative on Apache tricks, for example...) When I put up a vocabulary onto www.w3.org/ns/, for example, I publish it both in ttl and rdf/xml. Actually, we also publish the file in HTML+RDFa (which very often is the master copy and I convert it into

Re: Content negotiation for Turtle files

2013-02-06 Thread Andy Seaborne
I use the follow .htaccess file: AddType text/turtle .ttl AddType application/rdf+xml .rdf AddType application/ld+json .jsonld AddType application/n-triples .nt AddType application/owl+xml .owl AddType text/trig .trig AddType application/n-quads

Re: Content negotiation for Turtle files

2013-02-06 Thread Bernard Vatant
Thanks all for your precious help! ... which takes me back to my first options, the ones I had set before looking at Vapour results which misled me - more below. AddType text/turtle;charset=utf-8 .ttl AddType application/rdf+xml.rdf Plus Rewrite for html etc. I now get this on cURL

Re: Content negotiation for Turtle files

2013-02-06 Thread Chris Beer
Bernard, Ivan (At last! Something I can speak semi-authoritatively on ;P ) @ Bernard - no - there is no reason to go back if you do not want to, and every reason to serve both formats plus more. Your comment about UA's complaining about a content negotiation issue is key to what you're trying

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2013-02-06 Thread Edward Curry
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Re: Content negotiation for Turtle files

2013-02-06 Thread Bernard Vatant
Hi Chris 2013/2/6 Chris Beer ch...@codex.net.au Bernard, Ivan (At last! Something I can speak semi-authoritatively on ;P ) @ Bernard - no - there is no reason to go back if you do not want to, and every reason to serve both formats plus more. More ??? Well, I was heading the other way

Re: Content negotiation for Turtle files

2013-02-06 Thread Ivan Herman
Bernard, On Feb 6, 2013, at 11:59 , Bernard Vatant bernard.vat...@mondeca.com wrote: Hi Chris AND : there's NO rdf+xml file in that case, only text/turtle. And that's exactly the point : can/should one do that, or not? Do I have to pass the message to adopters : publish RDF in Turtle,

Re: Content negotiation for Turtle files

2013-02-06 Thread Ivan Herman
On Feb 6, 2013, at 10:56 , Chris Beer ch...@codex.net.au wrote: Bernard, Ivan (At last! Something I can speak semi-authoritatively on ;P ) @ Bernard - no - there is no reason to go back if you do not want to, and every reason to serve both formats plus more. Your comment about UA's

Re: Content negotiation for Turtle files

2013-02-06 Thread Leigh Dodds
Hi, On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 9:54 AM, Bernard Vatant bernard.vat...@mondeca.com wrote: ... But what I still don't understand is the answer of Vapour when requesting RDF/XML : 1st request while dereferencing resource URI without specifying the desired content type (HTTP response code should be

Re: Content negotiation for Turtle files

2013-02-06 Thread Richard Light
On 06/02/2013 10:59, Bernard Vatant wrote: More ??? Well, I was heading the other way round actually for sake of simplicity. As said before I've used RDF/XML for years despite all criticisms, and was happy with it (the devil you know etc). What I understand of the current trend is that to

Re: Content negotiation for Turtle files

2013-02-06 Thread Kingsley Idehen
On 2/6/13 4:54 AM, Bernard Vatant wrote: Thanks all for your precious help! ... which takes me back to my first options, the ones I had set before looking at Vapour results which misled me - more below. AddType text/turtle;charset=utf-8 .ttl AddType application/rdf+xml.rdf Plus

Re: Content negotiation for Turtle files

2013-02-06 Thread William Waites
On Wed, 06 Feb 2013 11:45:10 +, Richard Light rich...@light.demon.co.uk said: In a web development context, JSON would probably come second for me as a practical proposition, in that it ties in nicely with widely-supported javascript utilities. If it were up to me, XML with

Re: Content negotiation for Turtle files

2013-02-06 Thread Martynas Jusevičius
JSON is not a silver bullet. By only providing JSON, you cut off access for the whole XML toolchain. My related post on HackerNews: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4417111 Martynas graphity.org On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 2:23 PM, William Waites w...@styx.org wrote: On Wed, 06 Feb 2013 11:45:10

Re: Content negotiation for Turtle files

2013-02-06 Thread Kingsley Idehen
On 2/6/13 6:45 AM, Richard Light wrote: On 06/02/2013 10:59, Bernard Vatant wrote: More ??? Well, I was heading the other way round actually for sake of simplicity. As said before I've used RDF/XML for years despite all criticisms, and was happy with it (the devil you know etc). What I

Re: Content negotiation for Turtle files

2013-02-06 Thread Bernard Vatant
Thanks Kingsley! Was about to answer but you beat me at it :) But Richard, could you elaborate on this view that hand-written and machine-processible data would not fit together? I don't feel like people are still writing far too many Linked Data examples and resources by hand. On the opposite

Re: Content negotiation for Turtle files

2013-02-06 Thread Kingsley Idehen
On 2/6/13 7:23 AM, William Waites wrote: On Wed, 06 Feb 2013 11:45:10 +, Richard Light rich...@light.demon.co.uk said: In a web development context, JSON would probably come second for me as a practical proposition, in that it ties in nicely with widely-supported

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2013-02-06 Thread Roberto García
Apologies for Multiple Postings === 1st Workshop on Human-Semantic Web Interaction (HSWI'13) - http://hswi13.referata.com together with the 3rd International Conference on Web Intelligence, Mining and Semantics (WIMS'13) Jun 12-14,

Re: Content negotiation for Turtle files

2013-02-06 Thread David Booth
My view: On Wed, 2013-02-06 at 11:59 +0100, Bernard Vatant wrote: [ . . . ] Do I have to pass the message to adopters : publish RDF in Turtle, it's a very cool an simple syntax (oh but BTW don't forget to add HTML documentation, and also RDF/XML, . . . . Please promote Turtle and actively

Re: Content negotiation for Turtle files

2013-02-06 Thread Kingsley Idehen
On 2/6/13 9:52 AM, David Booth wrote: My view: On Wed, 2013-02-06 at 11:59 +0100, Bernard Vatant wrote: [ . . . ] Do I have to pass the message to adopters : publish RDF in Turtle, it's a very cool an simple syntax (oh but BTW don't forget to add HTML documentation, and also RDF/XML, . . . .

Re: Content negotiation for Turtle files

2013-02-06 Thread Richard Light
Bernard, I'm more than happy for Turtle to have a place in the LD ecosystem. My concern is the suggestion that it should become seen as the primary/the only delivery format for Linked Data resources such as www.lingvoj.org. Also, like you, I'm not particularly impressed by massive dumps of

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2013-02-06 Thread Aba-Sah Dadzie
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Re: Content negotiation for Turtle files

2013-02-06 Thread Kingsley Idehen
On 2/6/13 10:00 AM, Richard Light wrote: One issue that Turtle will need to address (it may do so already) is software support for free-hand data entry. While the format is seductively simple-looking (well, it is to the likes of us who grew up on XML/SGML*) it is very easy to make mistakes.

Re: Financial vocabularies ?

2013-02-06 Thread Thomas Bandholtz
Hi Dziugas, EDM Council is working on it since years, but it is not RDF: http://www.hypercube.co.uk/edmcouncil/ Some people from BIAN.org just starting something based on ISO 20022 in iQvoc. Best regards, Thomas Am 06.02.2013 12:04, schrieb Dziugas Tornau: Hi everyone, We're working here in

Re: Financial vocabularies ?

2013-02-06 Thread Tim Harsch
There's a similar question here: http://answers.semanticweb.com/questions/20123/is-there-is-any-ontology-provide-with-currency-prices-gold-prices-weather-state It's not very helpful though I'm afraid. On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 3:04 AM, Dziugas Tornau dziugas.tor...@gmail.comwrote: Hi everyone,

Re: Financial vocabularies ?

2013-02-06 Thread Aldo Gangemi
Dear Dziugas, we are working on a vocabulary for revenue authorities in Italy, I will investigate if those authorities are willing to make it public. Consider anyway that financial data schemas are quite different across Europe (let alone the whole world). Joinup has something called XFinanz

RE: Financial vocabularies ?

2013-02-06 Thread O'Riain, Sean
Hi Dziugas, There are a number of financial related ontologies listed in http://books.google.ie/books?id=V3AZ1BHagV8Cprintsec=frontcoversource=gbs_ge_summary_rcad=0#v=onepageqf=false P31. I don't think however the will match your needs exactly as all are application specific. Vanderlinden's

Re: Content negotiation for Turtle files

2013-02-06 Thread Kingsley Idehen
On 2/6/13 1:08 PM, Colin wrote: Hi all, Fascinating thread, all arguments being quite valid and it seems it all depends on what you want to achieve with Linked data. I was about to write a lengthy text to explain my view, but I'll start with a table to save time and improve readibility:

Re: Content negotiation for Turtle files

2013-02-06 Thread Colin
My apologies, I hit the Send button a bit too early. Please read: With so much interlinked data you want to browse, not to get Turtle files one by one by manually concatenating the base URIs with the entities names. Best regards, Colin On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 7:08 PM, Colin co...@zebrana.net

Re: Content negotiation for Turtle files

2013-02-06 Thread Colin
Hi all, Fascinating thread, all arguments being quite valid and it seems it all depends on what you want to achieve with Linked data. I was about to write a lengthy text to explain my view, but I'll start with a table to save time and improve readibility: *You are..* *Human* *Machine* *You

Re: Content negotiation for Turtle files

2013-02-06 Thread Colin
Hi Kingsley, Thanks for saving my contribution from the oblivion! When I said zero usability, I referred to reading Turtle, not writing. I think Turtle is great for hand writing as you explain, and that we just miss some ways to insert existing entities more easily and prevent typos. For

3rd Open Challenge on Multilingual Question Answering over Linked Data (QALD-3)

2013-02-06 Thread Vanessa Lopez
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Re: Content negotiation for Turtle files

2013-02-06 Thread Kingsley Idehen
On 2/6/13 1:16 PM, Colin wrote: My apologies, I hit the Send button a bit too early. Please read: With so much interlinked data you want to browse, not to get Turtle files one by one by manually concatenating the base URIs with the entities names. You don't have to do any such thing. See:

Re: Content negotiation for Turtle files

2013-02-06 Thread Kingsley Idehen
On 2/6/13 1:38 PM, Colin wrote: Hi Kingsley, Thanks for saving my contribution from the oblivion! When I said zero usability, I referred to reading Turtle, not writing. I think Turtle is great for hand writing as you explain, and that we just miss some ways to insert existing entities more

CfP: LinkedLearning2013 - 3rd Intl Workshop on Learning and Education with the Web of Data

2013-02-06 Thread Melody Siadaty
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