representing hypermedia controls in RDF

2013-11-20 Thread Ruben Verborgh
Dear all, Do we have other approaches besides RDF Forms [1] to represent hypermedia controls in RDF? Basically, I’m looking for any of the following: - representing hyperlinks in RDF (in addition to subject/object URLs) - representing URI templates [2] - representing forms (in the HTML sense)

Re: representing hypermedia controls in RDF

2013-11-20 Thread Phil Archer
I'm interested in the answers you get to the first and last of your questions but the middle one I can do. The under used POWDER Recommendation allows you to make statements about resources based on URI patterns (with due semantic integrity [1]) - which may or may not be useful to you. See

Re: representing hypermedia controls in RDF

2013-11-20 Thread Martynas Jusevičius
Ruben, 2 things I'm aware of and have implemented: - URI templates: Linked Data API vocabulary https://code.google.com/p/linked-data-api/wiki/API_Vocabulary Graphity reuses api:uriTemplate and api:itemTemplate to match request URIs against ontology classes. The actual template syntax is reused

Re: representing hypermedia controls in RDF

2013-11-20 Thread Edward Summers
Hi Ruben, I haven’t used it (or really read the spec) but you might be interested in taking a look at the Linked Data Platform 1,2], which provides some patterns for expressing create/update/delete hypermedia controls in RDF. I’d be interested to hear what your specific use case is. //Ed [1]

Re: representing hypermedia controls in RDF

2013-11-20 Thread Norman Gray
Ruben, greetings. On 2013 Nov 20, at 11:23, Ruben Verborgh wrote: Do we have other approaches besides RDF Forms [1] to represent hypermedia controls in RDF? You _might_ find it interesting to read about HyTime (the Wikipedia page has reasonable starting links

Re: representing hypermedia controls in RDF

2013-11-20 Thread Ruben Verborgh
Hi Phil, Thanks for the pointer. POWDER is definitely interesting and relevant, but I’m a bit hesitant to apply regexing. In general, I’m quite a fan of opaque URLs; that is, let the server maintain full control. While HTML GET forms are a level-breaker in that regard, I like the strictness

Re: representing hypermedia controls in RDF

2013-11-20 Thread Ruben Verborgh
Hi Martynas, - URI templates: Linked Data API vocabulary https://code.google.com/p/linked-data-api/wiki/API_Vocabulary Cool, I do like that. Have you thought about extending to RFC6570? Do you know about usage of this vocabulary? The one thing that I like less is the notion of endpoints.

Re: representing hypermedia controls in RDF

2013-11-20 Thread Ruben Verborgh
Hi Ed, CC: Mark Baker, I've actually been part of the LDP group; I fully agreed with Mark's concern on the lack of hypermedia controls [1]. LDP is based on a set of agreements, not on a set of dynamic affordances. Would have loved to see a proposal such as this one [2] make it, but it was then

Re: representing hypermedia controls in RDF

2013-11-20 Thread Ruben Verborgh
Hi Norman, Interesting pointer, thanks, I'm amazed to see this existed for so long! HyTime defines a set of hypertext-oriented element types that [let] document authors to build hypertext and multimedia presentations in a standardized way. The issue is probably to integrate this on the RDF

Re: representing hypermedia controls in RDF

2013-11-20 Thread Edward Summers
Ahh, I see you are (at least) two steps ahead of me. Thanks for sending along those references to previous conversation. I’m still curious about your use case :-) //Ed On Nov 20, 2013, at 10:58 AM, Ruben Verborgh ruben.verbo...@ugent.be wrote: Hi Ed, CC: Mark Baker, I've actually been

Re: representing hypermedia controls in RDF

2013-11-20 Thread Ruben Verborgh
Hi Ed, Forgot to answer this part: I’d be interested to hear what your specific use case is. In my research [1], I'm looking at giving machines the same affordances as people. Many things on today's Web cannot be done by machines due to a lack of affordances. While RDF allows to interpret

Reminder: European Data Forum 2014 - Call for Contribution ends 10.12. 2013

2013-11-20 Thread Martin Kaltenböck
Dear all, (apologise for cross posting) hereby we would like to remind you of the Call for Contribution (CfC) for the European Data Forum 2014 (EDF2014, http://2014.data-forum.eu) that ends 10.12. 2013, 22.00pm CET). EDF will take place 19th to 20th of March 2014 in Athens, Greece. Hereby we