RE: representing hypermedia controls in RDF

2013-11-22 Thread Markus Lanthaler
On Thursday, November 21, 2013 10:43 PM, Kingsley Idehen wrote: On 11/21/13 4:18 PM, Markus Lanthaler wrote: Anyway, do you have a URL for a Turtle doc? No, as I said, at the moment I don't serve a Turtle version. Of course you can use a translator to turn the JSON-LD into Turtle (but you

Re: representing hypermedia controls in RDF

2013-11-22 Thread Martynas Jusevičius
Markus, in the Linked Data context, what is the difference between identifier and hyperlink? Last time I checked, URIs were opaque and there was no such distinction. Martynas On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 6:43 PM, Markus Lanthaler markus.lantha...@gmx.net wrote: +public-hydra since there are a

Re: representing hypermedia controls in RDF

2013-11-22 Thread Martynas Jusevičius
Hey Ruben, regarding RFC6570, I'm not planning to adopt it, since the specification is better suited for building URIs, not matching them (1.4 Limitations): In general, regular expression languages are better suited for variable matching I'm using JAX-RS syntax since it can be used for matching

RE: representing hypermedia controls in RDF

2013-11-22 Thread Markus Lanthaler
Hi Martynas, On Friday, November 22, 2013 3:12 PM, Martynas Jusevičius wrote: Markus, in the Linked Data context, what is the difference between identifier and hyperlink? Last time I checked, URIs were opaque and there was no such distinction. These things quickly turn into philosophical

Re: representing hypermedia controls in RDF

2013-11-22 Thread mike amundsen
snip A browser for example doesn't render the string http://example.com/343-224122 as a clickable link unless you mark it up as one using the a tag. /snip Yep, the A element is the thing that _affords_ clicking. it is the A element which is the affordance. Affordances don't just supply

Re: representing hypermedia controls in RDF

2013-11-22 Thread Martynas Jusevičius
Mike, so if RDF representation includes a triple such as http://example.com/x a foaf:Image . is that an affordance? Because that gives me enough information to render it as img src=http://example.com/x/. By the way, nothing stops me from having a href=isbn:343-224122 either. It will

Fwd: representing hypermedia controls in RDF

2013-11-22 Thread mike amundsen
again - to the list! Yes, http://example.com/x a foaf:Image . is an affordance. of course, that affordance (like HTML.IMG) relies a number of expectations which most all of us recognize when we see it. From the network perspective, the expectations are

Re: representing hypermedia controls in RDF

2013-11-22 Thread mike amundsen
sigh... copying to the list this time. On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 1:10 PM, mike amundsen mam...@yahoo.com wrote: yep. In past writing/speaking I've drawn a line from James Gibson through Donald Norman and up to Roy Fielding[1] [1] http://amundsen.com/blog/archives/1109 mamund

Re: representing hypermedia controls in RDF

2013-11-22 Thread Kingsley Idehen
On 11/22/13 3:10 PM, mike amundsen wrote: sigh... copying to the list this time. On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 1:10 PM, mike amundsen mam...@yahoo.com mailto:mam...@yahoo.com wrote: yep. In past writing/speaking I've drawn a line from James Gibson through Donald Norman and up to Roy