Re: What Happened to the Semantic Web?

Hi Kingsley, While your main points are correct, I disagree with your conclusion. I guess everything depends on what you mean with "The Semantic Web", but if I read the article with that title, we're arguably _not_ there. In that sense, I find it strange you use Google as an example of success.

Re: What Happened to the Semantic Web?

On 11 November 2015 at 18:25, Ruben Verborgh wrote: > Hi Kingsley, > > While your main points are correct, I disagree with your conclusion. > I guess everything depends on what you mean with "The Semantic Web", > but if I read the article with that title, we're arguably

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Re: What Happened to the Semantic Web?

Hi All, Melvin had a very good point about the vector *types*. Some of the types are not so benign in implementation [1]. When the meta data sits atop a firewall as XML, it is shared, and the DOM is transferred intact. With XHTML this means access unbalanced access to the name space

Re: What Happened to the Semantic Web?

Hi Ruben, all, For me, the Semantic Web vision has always been about clients. It's a democratic principle of publishing and consuming data: everyone can say anything about anything, but everyone should also be able to consume that data. You are making an interesting point here that also

Re: What Happened to the Semantic Web?

On 11 November 2015 at 15:17, Kingsley Idehen wrote: > All, > > I think I inadvertently forgot to share this blog post [1] with this > community. > Really enjoyed. I think sem web has evolved on a number vectors 1. Big data and gov, seems to be really embracing linked

Re: What Happened to the Semantic Web?

> On 11 Nov 2015, at 14:55, Melvin Carvalho wrote: > > > > On 11 November 2015 at 15:17, Kingsley Idehen > wrote: > All, > > I think I inadvertently forgot to share this blog post [1] with this > community. >

What Happened to the Semantic Web?

All, I think I inadvertently forgot to share this blog post [1] with this community. Links: [1] http://kidehen.blogspot.cz/2015/09/what-happened-to-semantic-web.html -- What Happened to the Semantic Web? [2] https://plus.google.com/+KingsleyIdehen/posts/8aMYzBN2FjL -- End of RDF Document Format

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Re: What Happened to the Semantic Web?

On 11/11/15 5:56 PM, Wouter Beek wrote: > ​Hi Ruben, Kingsley, others, > ​ > On Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 9:49 PM, Ruben Verborgh > > wrote: > > Of course—but the emphasis in the community has mostly been on > servers, > > ​ The emphasis

Re: What Happened to the Semantic Web?

On 11/11/15 3:49 PM, Ruben Verborgh wrote: > Hi Kingsley, > > Some valid points. Two quick remarks: > >>> For me, the Semantic Web vision has always been about clients. >> I think the "Semantic Web" has always been about "The Web" (clients and >> servers) :) > Of course—but the emphasis in the

Re: What Happened to the Semantic Web?

On 11 November 2015 at 23:56, Wouter Beek wrote: > ​Hi Ruben, Kingsley, others, > ​ > On Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 9:49 PM, Ruben Verborgh > wrote: > >> Of course—but the emphasis in the community has mostly been on servers, >> > ​The emphasis has been on

Re: What Happened to the Semantic Web?

On Wed, 11/11/15, Wouter Beek wrote: I find it difficult to see why centralization will not be the end game for the SW as it has been for so many other aspects of computing (search, email, social networking, even simple things like

Re: Introducing RASH 0.4

Hi Ruben, >> - old elements such "div" and "span" have been replaced by more appropriate >> and semantic-oriented elements, e.g., "section", "figure", "figcaption", >> "blockquote", "pre" and "code"; > > I'm happy with this decision. > It strikes me that the RASH document now > actually reads

Re: What Happened to the Semantic Web?

On Wed, 11/11/15, Ruben Verborgh wrote: Subject: Re: What Happened to the Semantic Web? To: "Kingsley Idehen" Cc: public-lod@w3.org, "semantic-...@w3.org" Date: Wednesday,

Re: What Happened to the Semantic Web?

Excellent response, Kingsley! On 11/11/2015 6:37 PM, Kingsley Idehen wrote: On 11/11/15 3:49 PM, Ruben Verborgh wrote: Hi Kingsley, Some valid points. Two quick remarks: For me, the Semantic Web vision has always been about clients. I think the "Semantic Web" has always been about "The

Re: What Happened to the Semantic Web?

On 11/11/15 12:25 PM, Ruben Verborgh wrote: > Hi Kingsley, > > While your main points are correct, I disagree with your conclusion. > I guess everything depends on what you mean with "The Semantic Web", > but if I read the article with that title, we're arguably _not_ there. > > In that sense, I

Re: What Happened to the Semantic Web?

Hi Kingsley, Some valid points. Two quick remarks: >> For me, the Semantic Web vision has always been about clients. > > I think the "Semantic Web" has always been about "The Web" (clients and > servers) :) Of course—but the emphasis in the community has mostly been on servers, whereas the

Re: What Happened to the Semantic Web?

Wouter, could you elaborate on the agent calculus bit? Martynas graphityhq.com On Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 11:56 PM, Wouter Beek wrote: > Hi Ruben, Kingsley, others, > On Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 9:49 PM, Ruben Verborgh > wrote: >> >> Of course—but the

Re: Introducing RASH 0.4

Hi Miel, > This is great, thanks. I was wondering whether you are considering the issue > of link rot (cited web resources that disappear over time)? Since this is > HTML, you could consider embedding a solution like robust links: > http://robustlinks.mementoweb.org/spec/ >

Re: What Happened to the Semantic Web?

​Hi Ruben, Kingsley, others, ​ On Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 9:49 PM, Ruben Verborgh wrote: > Of course—but the emphasis in the community has mostly been on servers, > ​The emphasis has been on servers and, as of late, on Web Services. ​ > whereas the SemWeb vision started

Re: What Happened to the Semantic Web?

I find it difficult to see why centralization will not be the end game for the SW as it has been for so many other aspects of computing (search, email, social networking, even simple things like text chat). I am not sure what you mean. The Web is decentralized and email is decentralized as