Re: Should dbpedia have stuff in that is not from wikipedia - was: Re: A URI(Web ID) for the semantic web community as a foaf:Group

2010-03-30 Thread Bernard Vatant
Hi Hugh and all ... skipping Kingsley-related stuff :) This is an interest to me because there is a whole load of other stuff that appears under the dbpedia banner, mostly concerned with sameAs with other resources (some of which I disagree with). Pat Hayes and Harry Halpin have a

Re: Should dbpedia have stuff in that is not from wikipedia - was: Re: A URI(Web ID) for the semantic web community as a foaf:Group

2010-03-30 Thread Peter Ansell
On 31 March 2010 05:40, Bernard Vatant bernard.vat...@mondeca.com wrote: I think that dbpedia (all praise to its amazing achievement) should restrict itself to publishing exactly and only what it has gleaned from wikipedia, and any other stuff should be published elsewhere. IMHO exactly and

Re: Should dbpedia have stuff in that is not from wikipedia - was: Re: A URI(Web ID) for the semantic web community as a foaf:Group

2010-03-27 Thread Nathan
Hugh Glaser wrote: If it warrants it, why not create a wikipedia page about the semantic web community giving information; then rdf the same - describe it.. then you get the uri and can map it (and other groups) to foaf:Group. ?

Re: Should dbpedia have stuff in that is not from wikipedia - was: Re: A URI(Web ID) for the semantic web community as a foaf:Group

2010-03-27 Thread Dan Brickley
[snip] Couple of almost-independent points - Re DBpedia, I share a concern that the Wikipedia turned into a database product remain fairly clearly defined, even though the RDFization naturally includes a bit of creativity. However even that has subtleties - there are the different language

Re: Should dbpedia have stuff in that is not from wikipedia - was: Re: A URI(Web ID) for the semantic web community as a foaf:Group

2010-03-27 Thread KangHao Lu (Kenny)
Hi danbri, [snip] Also re SWIG, considered as a entity in the W3C world and as a larger vaguer community. Some W3C Interest Groups have enumerated memberships; traditionally RDF IG and its successor, this SemWeb IG, didn't. There is no master list, just a collection of SWIG-related mailing

A URI(Web ID) for the semantic web community as a foaf:Group

2010-03-26 Thread KangHao Lu (Kenny)
Hi all hi Tom, Does the Semantic Web Interest Group (or the Linked Data community), as a foaf:Group or something equivalent, has a WebID(URI)? Sorry but I didn't check whether this has been brought up. If it doesn't, I would certainly hope that it does have one. I think the best choice

Re: A URI(Web ID) for the semantic web community as a foaf:Group

2010-03-26 Thread Story Henry
On 26 Mar 2010, at 15:22, KangHao Lu (Kenny) wrote: Hi all hi Tom, Does the Semantic Web Interest Group (or the Linked Data community), as a foaf:Group or something equivalent, has a WebID(URI)? Sorry but I didn't check whether this has been brought up. If it doesn't, I would

Re: A URI(Web ID) for the semantic web community as a foaf:Group

2010-03-26 Thread Kingsley Idehen
KangHao Lu (Kenny) wrote: Hi all hi Tom, Does the Semantic Web Interest Group (or the Linked Data community), as a foaf:Group or something equivalent, has a WebID(URI)? Sorry but I didn't check whether this has been brought up. If it doesn't, I would certainly hope that it does have one. I

Re: A URI(Web ID) for the semantic web community as a foaf:Group

2010-03-26 Thread Kingsley Idehen
Story Henry wrote: On 26 Mar 2010, at 15:22, KangHao Lu (Kenny) wrote: Hi all hi Tom, Does the Semantic Web Interest Group (or the Linked Data community), as a foaf:Group or something equivalent, has a WebID(URI)? Sorry but I didn't check whether this has been brought up. If it

Re: A URI(Web ID) for the semantic web community as a foaf:Group

2010-03-26 Thread KangHao Lu (Kenny)
On 2010/03/27, at 0:27, Kingsley Idehen wrote: Kenny, This URI is inaccurate re. DBpedia developers: http://www4.wiwiss.fu-berlin.de/is-group/page/projects/Project13 To be precise: http://www4.wiwiss.fu-berlin.de/is-group/page/projects/Project13 is one of the teams that works on extraction

Re: A URI(Web ID) for the semantic web community as a foaf:Group

2010-03-26 Thread Kingsley Idehen
KangHao Lu (Kenny) wrote: On 2010/03/27, at 0:27, Kingsley Idehen wrote: Kenny, This URI is inaccurate re. DBpedia developers: http://www4.wiwiss.fu-berlin.de/is-group/page/projects/Project13 To be precise: http://www4.wiwiss.fu-berlin.de/is-group/page/projects/Project13 is one of the

Re: A URI(Web ID) for the semantic web community as a foaf:Group

2010-03-26 Thread Tom Heath
On 26 March 2010 15:27, Kingsley Idehen kide...@openlinksw.com wrote: Hmm, there once was an instance of Virtuoso+ODS at: http://community.linkeddata.org/ods that actually gave all members of LOD a URI. All you have to do is walk through the LOD mail archives to see how it came to an end. Tom

Contd: A URI(Web ID) for the semantic web community as a foaf:Group

2010-03-26 Thread Kingsley Idehen
KangHao Lu (Kenny) wrote: [SNIP] The point is we don't want machine generated URIs (sorry I can't see what's inside http://community.linkeddata.org/ods cause it's down for the moment). We should have triples like Please note, I was trying to tell you that there once lived a Linked Data

Re: A URI(Web ID) for the semantic web community as a foaf:Group

2010-03-26 Thread Melvin Carvalho
2010/3/26 KangHao Lu (Kenny) kennyl...@csail.mit.edu Hi all hi Tom, Does the Semantic Web Interest Group (or the Linked Data community), as a foaf:Group or something equivalent, has a WebID(URI)? Sorry but I didn't check whether this has been brought up. If it doesn't, I would certainly

Re: A URI(Web ID) for the semantic web community as a foaf:Group

2010-03-26 Thread Kingsley Idehen
Tom Heath wrote: On 26 March 2010 15:27, Kingsley Idehen kide...@openlinksw.com wrote: Hmm, there once was an instance of Virtuoso+ODS at: http://community.linkeddata.org/ods that actually gave all members of LOD a URI. All you have to do is walk through the LOD mail archives to see how it

Re: Contd: A URI(Web ID) for the semantic web community as a foaf:Group

2010-03-26 Thread Story Henry
On 26 Mar 2010, at 18:59, Kingsley Idehen wrote: This is how it works: 1. New Users open accounts 2. Edit profile 3. Click a button that makes an X.509 certificate, exports to browser, and writes to FOAF space 4. Member visits any FOAF+SSL or OpenID space on the Web and never has to

Re: Contd: A URI(Web ID) for the semantic web community as a foaf:Group

2010-03-26 Thread Kingsley Idehen
Story Henry wrote: On 26 Mar 2010, at 18:59, Kingsley Idehen wrote: This is how it works: 1. New Users open accounts 2. Edit profile 3. Click a button that makes an X.509 certificate, exports to browser, and writes to FOAF space 4. Member visits any FOAF+SSL or OpenID space on the Web and

Re: A URI(Web ID) for the semantic web community as a foaf:Group

2010-03-26 Thread Tom Heath
Kingsley, My recollection of events is as follows: 1. A number of us (you, me, others - don't remember exactly who) agreed that the community.linkeddata.org site was a good idea. 2. You set up an ODS instance running in EC2 and asked me to setup the appropriate CNAME record in the DNS. 3. I set

Re: Contd: A URI(Web ID) for the semantic web community as a foaf:Group

2010-03-26 Thread Kingsley Idehen
Story Henry wrote: On 26 Mar 2010, at 18:59, Kingsley Idehen wrote: This is how it works: 1. New Users open accounts 2. Edit profile 3. Click a button that makes an X.509 certificate, exports to browser, and writes to FOAF space 4. Member visits any FOAF+SSL or OpenID space on the Web and

Re: A URI(Web ID) for the semantic web community as a foaf:Group

2010-03-26 Thread Kingsley Idehen
Tom Heath wrote: Kingsley, My recollection of events is as follows: 1. A number of us (you, me, others - don't remember exactly who) agreed that the community.linkeddata.org site was a good idea. Yes. 2. You set up an ODS instance running in EC2 and asked me to setup the appropriate CNAME

Should dbpedia have stuff in that is not from wikipedia - was: Re: A URI(Web ID) for the semantic web community as a foaf:Group

2010-03-26 Thread Hugh Glaser
I have changed the subject, as things seem to be fragmenting, and this is my interpretation of one of the fragments. Please correct me if this is a wrong understanding: Part of his complaint is that Kingsley has complained that dbpedia is publishing some stuff that he disagrees with. As far as I