Re: Alternative Linked Data principles

2014-04-30 Thread Aki Kivela
On 28.4.2014 18:23, Luca Matteis wrote: The current Linked Data principles rely on specific standards and protocols such as HTTP, URIs and RDF/SPARQL. Because I think it's healthy to look at things from a different prospective, I was wondering whether the same idea of a global interlinked

Re: Alternative Linked Data principles

2014-04-30 Thread Melvin Carvalho
On 28 April 2014 17:23, Luca Matteis lmatt...@gmail.com wrote: The current Linked Data principles rely on specific standards and protocols such as HTTP, URIs and RDF/SPARQL. Because I think it's healthy to look at things from a different prospective, I was wondering whether the same idea of a

Re: Alternative Linked Data principles

2014-04-30 Thread Paul Houle
I think also RDF is not so inflexible as people think it is. For me the 'atom' of RDF is not the triple, but the node. In the node you get the global namespace of IRIs and you also get the richness of the xsd data types, and plus the ability to define your own data types. There's a pretty

Re: Alternative Linked Data principles

2014-04-28 Thread Luca Matteis
Thanks John but not really. I was specifically looking for research that wasn't based on protocols such as HTTP, URIs and RDF. But that is still in the field of achieving a global interconnected database. I know webby standards are implemented so no need to reinvent the wheel, but I think it's

Re: Alternative Linked Data principles

2014-04-28 Thread Kingsley Idehen
On 4/28/14 11:55 AM, Luca Matteis wrote: Thanks John but not really. I was specifically looking for research that wasn't based on protocols such as HTTP, URIs and RDF. But that is still in the field of achieving a global interconnected database. I'll try: de-referencing an identifier en

Re: Alternative Linked Data principles

2014-04-28 Thread Hugh Glaser
Something like doing Linked Data over P2P networks, that is, using distributed hash tables? You might like to have a look at some of that research (you can probably google better than I can). It weakens the provenance etc of the DNS angle, but of course then enables others to publish Linked

Re: Alternative Linked Data principles

2014-04-28 Thread Bernadette Hyland
Hi, Kingsley - Your response was clear, concise well put -- Thanks. For people familiar with RDBMS wanting to better understand what makes a linked data approach useful, that was a great comparison. Luca - Sure, data has a wide range of mechanisms in which it can be modeled and presented.

Re: Alternative Linked Data principles

2014-04-28 Thread Adrian Walker
Hi Luca All, There is a different approach to unifying data from diverse sources. It's described by means of an example in www.reengineeringllc.com/EnergyIndependence1.pdf www.reengineeringllc.com/EnergyIndependence1Video.htm The basic insight is to look beyond data and metadata, and

Re: Alternative Linked Data principles

2014-04-28 Thread Pat Hayes
Luca, using the existing standards is like agreeing to speak the same language as everyone else. So to illustrate the point, I will give the rest of this reply in Klingon rather than English. lang nIv'e' motlh yIlo' interoperability 'oHbe' 'e' chaH nIv 'op qIt latlhpu'. 'oH DaSovrup mojpu'