Dan,
A somewhat longer response with references to some of the discussion on
the list yesterday.
On 7/1/2010 6:30 AM, Dan Brickley wrote:
Hi Patrick,
snip
I don't know what else to call the US Department of Defense mandating the
use of SGML for defense contracts. That is certainly
Patrick,
Without disputing your wider point that HTML hit the sweet point of
usability and utility I will dispute the following:
HTML 3.2 did have:
1) *A need perceived by users as needing to be met*
Did users really know they wanted to link documents together to form a
world wide web? I
Ian,
On 7/2/2010 5:25 AM, Ian Davis wrote:
Patrick,
Without disputing your wider point that HTML hit the sweet point of
usability and utility I will dispute the following:
HTML 3.2 did have:
1) *A need perceived by users as needing to be met*
Did users really know they wanted to
On 2 Jul 2010, at 11:39, Patrick Durusau wrote:
Good point. But the basic tools to handle data have been around for a long
time.
The web could only get going in the 90ies when
1) Windows 95 become (A GUI) widely deployed and relatively stable and had
support for threads
2) modems
Hi Ian,
But now people are seeing some of
the data being made available in browseable form e.g. at data.gov.uk
or dbpedia and saying, I want to make one of those.
I don't really believe that people would say after browsing dbpedia I
want to make one of those. That's not the User Experience
Henry,
On 7/2/2010 5:58 AM, Henry Story wrote:
On 2 Jul 2010, at 11:39, Patrick Durusau wrote:
Good point. But the basic tools to handle data have been around for a long time.
The web could only get going in the 90ies when
1) Windows 95 become (A GUI) widely deployed and
Henry,
On 7/2/2010 7:11 AM, Henry Story wrote:
snip
Well, I am not so sure that we need to rewire the brain of millions of
people. so much as we need to have our technologies adapt to them. Yes?
When it was discovered that the earth was round, the brains of everyone on
earth had
Bob Ferris wrote:
Hi Ian,
But now people are seeing some of
the data being made available in browseable form e.g. at data.gov.uk
or dbpedia and saying, I want to make one of those.
I don't really believe that people would say after browsing dbpedia I
want to make one of those.
Bob Ferris wrote:
Hi Ian,
Am 02.07.2010 12:26, schrieb Ian Davis:
On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 11:13 AM, Bob Ferrisz...@elbklang.net wrote:
Hi Ian,
But now people are seeing some of
the data being made available in browseable form e.g. at data.gov.uk
or dbpedia and saying, I want to make one of
Patrick Durusau wrote:
Henry,
On 7/2/2010 5:58 AM, Henry Story wrote:
On 2 Jul 2010, at 11:39, Patrick Durusau wrote:
Good point. But the basic tools to handle data have been around for
a long time.
The web could only get going in the 90ies when
1) Windows 95 become (A GUI)
triples; but lots more is in documents, videos,
spreadsheets, custom formats, or [hence FOAF] in people's heads.
Looked at in these terms, my RDF wishlist would be based on looking at
things from the consumer side. Publishing RDF is fiddly, but do-able.
And it only takes a few lines of [perl|java
Hi Patrick,
On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 11:39 AM, Patrick Durusau patr...@durusau.net wrote:
Dan,
Just a quick response to only one of the interesting points you raise:
It's clear that many workshop participants were aware of the risk of
destabilizing the core technologies just as we are gaining
Dan,
I would like to add a very simple one in the list of annoyances:
Le 1 juil. 2010 à 04:46, Dan Brickley a écrit :
Some reasons why RDF is annoying and hard (a mildly ordered list):
[… cut list of annoyances …]
* community building by hacking:
The RDF community is pretty much a community
Dan and all, hello.
On 2010 Jul 1, at 11:30, Dan Brickley wrote:
Yes, you are right. It is fair and interesting to bring up this
analogy and associated history. SGML even got a namecheck in the
original announcement of the Web,
[...]
So, I think I'm holding an awkward position here:
*
John,
Le 1 juil. 2010 à 10:46, John Erickson a écrit :
Karl asks, ...How does one start hacking?
Although this might be politically incorrect advice, Toby Segarin's
O'Reilly book Programming the Semantic Web (2009) (use The
Google...) is a very accessible introduction.
On 1 Jul 2010, at 14:05, Ed Summers wrote:
Wonderful post Dan. I think the work you and others have been doing w/
Facebook on the OpenGraphProtocol is a great example of how we ought
to be thinking about the future of RDF ... building vocabularies to
describe web resources, describing
Rob Styles wrote:
On 1 Jul 2010, at 14:05, Ed Summers wrote:
Wonderful post Dan. I think the work you and others have been doing w/
Facebook on the OpenGraphProtocol is a great example of how we ought
to be thinking about the future of RDF ... building vocabularies to
describe web
http://www.semanticoverflow.com/
This is a good step, I wonder if it's known. Unfortunately, the questions
are already intimidating.
Side thought: what questions do newcomers have; and why don't we ask them on
behalf of the newcomers? (FAQ in reverse)
For instance:
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