Re: Linked Data Business Models?

2012-08-01 Thread Christophe Guéret
Why should it not be as easy to deploy to 'The Web' Great point! A cool idea indeed! A webby application store driven by the likes of GoodRelations, FOAF Profiles, SIOC data spaces, WebID ACLs, and Payswarm is something that's missing re. poweful Linked Data showcase outside the realms

Re: Linked Data Business Models?

2012-08-01 Thread Christophe Guéret
Hi all, That may or may not really fit into the discussion, but here is a small write up about the commercial benefits of doing 5 star data instead of 3: http://wp.me/p1ffiZ-7D It is not a new idea but some data owners I spoke with did not see it that way, thinking that Linked Open Data implies

Re: Linked Data Business Models?

2012-08-01 Thread Kingsley Idehen
On 8/1/12 5:15 AM, Christophe Guéret wrote: Why should it not be as easy to deploy to 'The Web' Great point! A cool idea indeed! A webby application store driven by the likes of GoodRelations, FOAF Profiles, SIOC data spaces, WebID ACLs, and Payswarm is something that's

Re: Linked Data Business Models?

2012-08-01 Thread Kingsley Idehen
On 8/1/12 6:19 AM, Christophe Guéret wrote: Hi all, That may or may not really fit into the discussion, but here is a small write up about the commercial benefits of doing 5 star data instead of 3: http://wp.me/p1ffiZ-7D It is not a new idea but some data owners I spoke with did not see it

Re: Linked Data Business Models?

2012-08-01 Thread ProjectParadigm-ICT-Program
@w3.org Sent: Wednesday, August 1, 2012 5:15 AM Subject: Re: Linked Data Business Models? Why should it not be as easy to deploy to 'The Web' Great point! A cool idea indeed!   A webby application store driven by the likes of GoodRelations, FOAF Profiles, SIOC data spaces, WebID ACLs

Re: Linked Data Business Models?

2012-07-30 Thread Melvin Carvalho
On 26 July 2012 00:08, Kingsley Idehen kide...@openlinksw.com wrote: All, There is a tendency assume an eternal lack of functional and scalable business models with regards to Linked Data. I think its time for an open discussion about this matter. It's no secret, I've never seen business

Re: Linked Data Business Models?

2012-07-30 Thread Kingsley Idehen
On 7/30/12 8:11 AM, Melvin Carvalho wrote: On 26 July 2012 00:08, Kingsley Idehen kide...@openlinksw.com mailto:kide...@openlinksw.com wrote: All, There is a tendency assume an eternal lack of functional and scalable business models with regards to Linked Data. I think its

Re: Linked Data Business Models?

2012-07-30 Thread Gannon Dick
: Linked Data Business Models? On 7/30/12 8:11 AM, Melvin Carvalho wrote: On 26 July 2012 00:08, Kingsley Idehen kide...@openlinksw.com wrote: All, There is a tendency assume an eternal lack of functional and scalable business models with regards to Linked Data. I think its

Re: Linked Data Business Models?

2012-07-30 Thread Kingsley Idehen
*From:* Kingsley Idehen kide...@openlinksw.com *To:* public-lod@w3.org *Sent:* Monday, July 30, 2012 8:50 AM *Subject:* Re: Linked Data Business Models? On 7/30/12 8:11 AM, Melvin Carvalho wrote: On 26 July 2012 00:08, Kingsley Idehen

Re: Linked Data Business Models?

2012-07-30 Thread Gannon Dick
behavior. If you call it all Big Data you have already chosen your poison. From: Kingsley Idehen kide...@openlinksw.com To: public-lod@w3.org Sent: Monday, July 30, 2012 10:22 AM Subject: Re: Linked Data Business Models? On 7/30/12 10:34 AM, Gannon Dick wrote

Re: Linked Data Business Models?

2012-07-29 Thread Members Fusepool
When reading through this list (not just this thread), where a naive observer would locate LOD's most vocal enthusiasts, I get the impression that LOD is in the midst of the Valley of Death. So before you sell your fortune, note that clever investors are just waiting for the Valley of Death to buy

Re: Linked Data Business Models?

2012-07-29 Thread Nathan
Kingsley Idehen wrote: All, There is a tendency assume an eternal lack of functional and scalable business models with regards to Linked Data. I think its time for an open discussion about this matter. It's no secret, I've never seen business models as challenging Linked Data. Quite the

Re: Linked Data Business Models?

2012-07-29 Thread Gannon Dick
...@fusepool.net To: Kingsley Idehen kide...@openlinksw.com Cc: public-lod@w3.org public-lod@w3.org; Work Team Fusepool t...@fusepool.net Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2012 8:37 AM Subject: Re: Linked Data Business Models? When reading through this list (not just this thread), where a naive observer would

Re: Linked Data Business Models?

2012-07-29 Thread Jürgen Jakobitsch
hi, i'm going to deposit my use of linked data here and add some comments. please note, that i'm a one man company, but it's gonna be clearly visible that the use of linked data is very extensible. the promises from 1:n (sql) and SOA have been solved. i'm not going to write any api, outputting

Re: Linked Data Business Models?

2012-07-29 Thread Gannon Dick
From: Jürgen Jakobitsch j.jakobit...@semantic-web.at honestly, i don't really understand, why people, organizations (small or big) do NOT use linked data. All, I sense the NIH (Not Invented Here) Syndrome, is weak in this one.  Must be nice :-) Need to sign him up: Linked Data Community

Re: Linked Data Business Models?

2012-07-29 Thread Kingsley Idehen
On 7/29/12 9:37 AM, Members Fusepool wrote: When reading through this list (not just this thread), where a naive observer would locate LOD's most vocal enthusiasts, I get the impression that LOD is in the midst of the Valley of Death. But, Linked Data != Linked Open Data (LOD). Conflating

Re: Linked Data Business Models?

2012-07-29 Thread Daniel O'Connor
I DO NOT WORRY ABOUT DATA ANYMORE, this chapter is closed. now can use my energy to build a thesaurus about zen :) I DO NOT WORRY ABOUT API ANYMORE. sparql endpoint is in place. i even have an own template engine (JSP-Writer for OpenRDF Sesame) which fullfills all my needs. Re I don't

Re: Linked Data Business Models?

2012-07-29 Thread Jürgen Jakobitsch
hi, i'm working on a set of simple servlets and filters which will be openSourced sometimes this year and will implement these recommendations [1]. the architecture will be open in two ways : 1. you can setup any servlet filter you want. 2. security will be handled using webID (see this

Re: Linked Data Business Models?

2012-07-29 Thread Kingsley Idehen
On 7/29/12 2:15 PM, Jürgen Jakobitsch wrote: hi, i'm going to deposit my use of linked data here and add some comments. please note, that i'm a one man company, but it's gonna be clearly visible that the use of linked data is very extensible. the promises from 1:n (sql) and SOA have been

Re: Linked Data Business Models?

2012-07-29 Thread Kingsley Idehen
On 7/29/12 10:42 AM, Nathan wrote: Kingsley Idehen wrote: All, There is a tendency assume an eternal lack of functional and scalable business models with regards to Linked Data. I think its time for an open discussion about this matter. It's no secret, I've never seen business models as

Re: Linked Data Business Models?

2012-07-26 Thread Pablo N. Mendes
Would the offer of data and API integration services count? There is linked data without Linked Data: Factual Places combines data on 58 million local businesses and points of interest with rich APIs to bring context to every point worldwide. http://www.factual.com/solutions/web-and-mobile-apps

Re: Linked Data Business Models?

2012-07-26 Thread Michael Brunnbauer
Hello Pablo, nobody doubts that links are useful and part of a plethora of small and big databases and APIs. What I am particularly interested in is: Why should a small/medium sized player switch from -using URLs of pages about things to using URIs that denote things -APIs and RDBs to

Re: Linked Data Business Models?

2012-07-26 Thread Kingsley Idehen
On 7/26/12 6:18 AM, Pablo N. Mendes wrote: Would the offer of data and API integration services count? There is linked data without Linked Data: Factual Places combines data on 58 million local businesses and points of interest with rich APIs to bring context to every point worldwide.

Re: Linked Data Business Models?

2012-07-26 Thread Kingsley Idehen
On 7/26/12 6:50 AM, Michael Brunnbauer wrote: Hello Pablo, nobody doubts that links are useful and part of a plethora of small and big databases and APIs. What I am particularly interested in is: Why should a small/medium sized player switch from -using URLs of pages about things to using

Re: Linked Data Business Models?

2012-07-26 Thread Juan Sequeda
On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 6:43 AM, Kingsley Idehen kide...@openlinksw.comwrote: On 7/26/12 6:50 AM, Michael Brunnbauer wrote: Hello Pablo, nobody doubts that links are useful and part of a plethora of small and big databases and APIs. What I am particularly interested in is: Why should a

Re: Linked Data Business Models?

2012-07-26 Thread Kingsley Idehen
On 7/26/12 10:56 AM, Juan Sequeda wrote: On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 6:43 AM, Kingsley Idehen kide...@openlinksw.com mailto:kide...@openlinksw.com wrote: On 7/26/12 6:50 AM, Michael Brunnbauer wrote: Hello Pablo, nobody doubts that links are useful and part of a plethora

Re: Linked Data Business Models?

2012-07-26 Thread Juan Sequeda
On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 10:33 AM, Kingsley Idehen kide...@openlinksw.comwrote: On 7/26/12 10:56 AM, Juan Sequeda wrote: On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 6:43 AM, Kingsley Idehen kide...@openlinksw.comwrote: On 7/26/12 6:50 AM, Michael Brunnbauer wrote: Hello Pablo, nobody doubts that links

Re: Linked Data Business Models?

2012-07-26 Thread Kingsley Idehen
On 7/26/12 1:30 PM, Juan Sequeda wrote: On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 10:33 AM, Kingsley Idehen kide...@openlinksw.com mailto:kide...@openlinksw.com wrote: On 7/26/12 10:56 AM, Juan Sequeda wrote: On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 6:43 AM, Kingsley Idehen kide...@openlinksw.com

Re: Linked Data Business Models?

2012-07-26 Thread Mike Liebhold
On 7/26/12 11:23 AM, Kingsley Idehen wrote: Q: What does Linked Data offer in this context? A: Powerful mechanism for data virtualization that turns a collection of disparate and heterogeneous data sources into a coherent, persistent, and change sensitive mesh of entities and their

Re: Linked Data Business Models?

2012-07-26 Thread Kingsley Idehen
On 7/26/12 2:45 PM, Mike Liebhold wrote: On 7/26/12 11:23 AM, Kingsley Idehen wrote: Q: What does Linked Data offer in this context? A: Powerful mechanism for data virtualization that turns a collection of disparate and heterogeneous data sources into a coherent, persistent, and change

Linked Data Business Models?

2012-07-25 Thread Kingsley Idehen
All, There is a tendency assume an eternal lack of functional and scalable business models with regards to Linked Data. I think its time for an open discussion about this matter. It's no secret, I've never seen business models as challenging Linked Data. Quite the contrary. That said,