RE: Can we lower the LD entry cost please (part 1)?

2009-02-08 Thread Georgi Kobilarov
Berlin www.georgikobilarov.com -Original Message- From: public-lod-requ...@w3.org [mailto:public-lod-requ...@w3.org] On Behalf Of Andraz Tori Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2009 4:02 PM To: Hugh Glaser Cc: public-lod@w3.org Subject: Re: Can we lower the LD entry cost please (part 1

RE: Can we lower the LD entry cost please (part 1)?

2009-02-08 Thread Georgi Kobilarov
] Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2009 4:29 PM To: Georgi Kobilarov; Andraz Tori; Hugh Glaser Cc: Linked Data community Subject: Re: Can we lower the LD entry cost please (part 1)? Georgi, All, If we don't reward the Linked Data publishers who provide clean data and penalize those who

RE: Can we lower the LD entry cost please (part 1)?

2009-02-08 Thread Andraz Tori
...@w3.org] On Behalf Of Andraz Tori Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2009 4:02 PM To: Hugh Glaser Cc: public-lod@w3.org Subject: Re: Can we lower the LD entry cost please (part 1)? Hi Hugh, I think you are mixing two completely different goals. Why can't one set of people

Re: Can we lower the LD entry cost please (part 1)?

2009-02-08 Thread Kingsley Idehen
On 2/8/09 10:50 AM, Andraz Tori wrote: On the other hand, the major problem of semantic web is lack of _incentives_ for publishers to publish data in clean semantic form. I am working on one of the initiatives to change that and it will hopefully see light of the day soon. Andraz,

Re: Can we lower the LD entry cost please (part 1)?

2009-02-08 Thread Michael Hausenblas
Hausenblas michael.hausenb...@deri.org, Andraz Tori and...@zemanta.com, Hugh Glaser h...@ecs.soton.ac.uk Cc: Linked Data community public-lod@w3.org Subject: RE: Can we lower the LD entry cost please (part 1)? Hi Michael, Looking forward to find and use a respective voiD description

Re: Can we lower the LD entry cost please (part 1)?

2009-02-07 Thread Yves Raimond
Hello! On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 1:23 PM, Hugh Glaser h...@ecs.soton.ac.uk wrote: My proposal: *We should not permit any site to be a member of the Linked Data cloud if it does not provide a simple way of finding URIs from natural language identifiers.* Rationale: One aspect of our Linking

Re: Can we lower the LD entry cost please (part 1)?

2009-02-07 Thread David Baxter
Hi Hugh, The OpenCyc ontology has English strings for its terms, and a search facility at http://sw.opencyc.org/ Sorry, no Tim Berners-Lee (yet), but if you type Tim it will auto-complete and show you Tim Duncan and the other Tims we have. We also have links to DBpedia for many of our terms.

DBpedia Lookup RE: Can we lower the LD entry cost please (part 1)?

2009-02-07 Thread Georgi Kobilarov
dbpedia: wanted Tim again. After clicking on a few web pages, none of which seemed to provide a search facility, I resorted to my usual method:- look it up in wikipedia and then hack the URI and hope it works in dbpedia. (Sorry to name specific sites, guys, but I needed a few examples. And

Re: Can we lower the LD entry cost please (part 1)?

2009-02-07 Thread Michael Hausenblas
FWIF, my 0.02€: I think Hugh has a point there: lower the barrier for interested people in the domain to chip in. Hence, an entry point should be provided, which is simple enough to be used by quite everyone. Experience (in the realm of linked data applications) tells that it is quite always

RE: DBpedia Lookup RE: Can we lower the LD entry cost please (part 1)?

2009-02-07 Thread Georgi Kobilarov
.org Subject: DBpedia Lookup RE: Can we lower the LD entry cost please (part 1)? dbpedia: wanted Tim again. After clicking on a few web pages, none of which seemed to provide a search facility, I resorted to my usual method:- look it up in wikipedia and then hack the URI and hope

Re: Can we lower the LD entry cost please (part 1)?

2009-02-07 Thread Bradley Allen
This is one of the issues I am trying to address with http://t4gm.info. There the notion of autocomplete filtering for SKOS concepts combined with content negotiation allows one to have one's cake and eat it too, at least as far user-friendly URL lookup is concerned; because of the use of

Re: DBpedia Lookup RE: Can we lower the LD entry cost please (part 1)?

2009-02-07 Thread Michael Hausenblas
RE: Can we lower the LD entry cost please (part 1)? Resent-From: Linked Data community public-lod@w3.org Resent-Date: Sat, 07 Feb 2009 15:19:30 + dbpedia: wanted Tim again. After clicking on a few web pages, none of which seemed to provide a search facility, I resorted to my usual method

Re: DBpedia Lookup RE: Can we lower the LD entry cost please (part 1)?

2009-02-07 Thread Kingsley Idehen
On 2/7/09 10:18 AM, Georgi Kobilarov wrote: oh, it was my laziness that kept me from announcing it publically yet, but since Hugh is complaining about the lack of URI search functionality in DBpedia, here it is: http://lookup.dbpedia.org and web service

Re: Can we lower the LD entry cost please (part 1)?

2009-02-07 Thread David Baxter
On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 8:15 AM, David Baxter retx...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Hugh, The OpenCyc ontology has English strings for its terms, and a search facility at http://sw.opencyc.org/ Sorry, no Tim Berners-Lee (yet), but if you type Tim it will auto-complete and show you Tim Duncan and

Re: Can we lower the LD entry cost please (part 1)?

2009-02-07 Thread Hugh Glaser
Many thanks for all the stimulating response to brighten up this dreary Saturday and help me to avoid the things I really have to do. A digest of some of my further responses (so it is easy to ignore me all at once if you want!): On 07/02/2009 15:02, Andraz Tori and...@zemanta.com wrote: Hi

Re: Can we lower the LD entry cost please (part 1)?

2009-02-07 Thread Yves Raimond
Hello! Sorry, I just cannot accept that a SPARQL endpoint is th esort of thing that we should be expecting new casual users to try to use, even with a query builder. You made the point about linkage systems - I was answering to that. I am not suggesting casual users should write SPARQL

Re: Can we lower the LD entry cost please (part 1)?

2009-02-07 Thread Giovanni Tummarello
Yves, just on the side, yes there is not much dbtune in sindice. just a few http://sindice.com/search?q=dbtuneqt=term if you have an RDF dump of the site or of part of it and you express it in a semantic sitemap you would be indexed full in very short time . Otherwise we should have the ne

Re: Can we lower the LD entry cost please (part 1)?

2009-02-07 Thread Hugh Glaser
On 07/02/2009 19:57, Yves Raimond yves.raim...@gmail.com wrote: Hello! Sorry, I just cannot accept that a SPARQL endpoint is th esort of thing that we should be expecting new casual users to try to use, even with a query builder. You made the point about linkage systems - I was answering