Re: Introducing the Knowledge Graph: things, not strings

2012-05-18 Thread Steve Harris
Hi Dave, On 2012-05-17, at 16:56, David Wood wrote: Hi Steve, On May 17, 2012, at 11:18, Steve Harris wrote: On 2012-05-16, at 23:09, David Wood wrote: Still, Kingsley is right, too. We are certainly busier than we have ever been, with no clear end in sight. That's positive. It

Re: Introducing the Knowledge Graph: things, not strings

2012-05-18 Thread Hugh Glaser
+1 +1 On 18 May 2012, at 13:18, Steve Harris wrote: Hi Dave, On 2012-05-17, at 16:56, David Wood wrote: Hi Steve, On May 17, 2012, at 11:18, Steve Harris wrote: On 2012-05-16, at 23:09, David Wood wrote: Still, Kingsley is right, too. We are certainly busier than we have ever

Re: Introducing the Knowledge Graph: things, not strings

2012-05-17 Thread Michael Brunnbauer
Hello Bernard, I really hope they have delivered something people (outside this community) will find useful. Otherwise you will perhaps be happy that they tried to take all the credit. As you said, it's not completely news and the expectations are great. Regards, Michael Brunnbauer On Thu,

Re: Introducing the Knowledge Graph: things, not strings

2012-05-17 Thread Barry Norton
On 16/05/2012 23:55, Bernard Vatant wrote: Kingsley says they have Freebase, yes but Freebase stores only 22 million entities according to their own stats, which makes less than 5% of the overall figure, since Google claims 500 million nodes in the Knowledge Graph, and growing. So I guess

Re: Introducing the Knowledge Graph: things, not strings

2012-05-17 Thread Kingsley Idehen
On 5/17/12 10:06 AM, Barry Norton wrote: On 16/05/2012 23:55, Bernard Vatant wrote: Kingsley says they have Freebase, yes but Freebase stores only 22 million entities according to their own stats, which makes less than 5% of the overall figure, since Google claims 500 million nodes in the

Re: Introducing the Knowledge Graph: things, not strings

2012-05-17 Thread Steve Harris
On 2012-05-16, at 23:09, David Wood wrote: On May 16, 2012, at 17:45, Bernard Vatant wrote: Thanks to all who had this ground ploughed and sown patiently since those dark ages where Google was all but an idea. Now the grain is ripe and it's a great time for them to harvest ... hope we

Re: Introducing the Knowledge Graph: things, not strings

2012-05-17 Thread Steve Harris
On 2012-05-17, at 00:04, Kingsley Idehen wrote: On 5/16/12 6:55 PM, Bernard Vatant wrote: Adrian Don't dream of accessing the Google Knowledge Graph and query it through a SPARQL endpoint as you do for DBpedia. As every Google critical technological infrastructure, I'm afraid it will

Re: Introducing the Knowledge Graph: things, not strings

2012-05-17 Thread Daniel Schwabe
On May 17, 2012, at 12:22 - 17/05/12, Steve Harris wrote: And it will be query accessible, this is something that's inevitable and unavoidable. This is the Web. I doubt it. Google don't even allow API access to their search engine. I can still remember the days when they were a

Re: Introducing the Knowledge Graph: things, not strings

2012-05-17 Thread Kingsley Idehen
On 5/17/12 11:18 AM, Steve Harris wrote: Still, Kingsley is right, too. We are certainly busier than we have ever been, with no clear end in sight. That's positive. It would feel much more positive if I thought we were trying to solve the right problems. It would be much easier to know if I

Re: Introducing the Knowledge Graph: things, not strings

2012-05-17 Thread Kingsley Idehen
On 5/17/12 11:22 AM, Steve Harris wrote: On 2012-05-17, at 00:04, Kingsley Idehen wrote: On 5/16/12 6:55 PM, Bernard Vatant wrote: Adrian Don't dream of accessing the Google Knowledge Graph and query it through a SPARQL endpoint as you do for DBpedia. As every Google critical technological

Re: Introducing the Knowledge Graph: things, not strings

2012-05-17 Thread Daniel O'Connor
On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 11:36 PM, Barry Norton barry.nor...@ontotext.comwrote: On 16/05/2012 23:55, Bernard Vatant wrote: Kingsley says they have Freebase, yes but Freebase stores only 22 million entities according to their own stats, which makes less than 5% of the overall figure, since

Re: Introducing the Knowledge Graph: things, not strings

2012-05-16 Thread Kingsley Idehen
On 5/16/12 4:02 PM, Melvin Carvalho wrote: Big thumbs up (at least in principle) from google on linked data http://googleblog.blogspot.de/2012/05/introducing-knowledge-graph-things-not.html +1000... It's getting real interesting. Google and Facebook as massive Linked Data Spaces, awesome!

Re: Introducing the Knowledge Graph: things, not strings

2012-05-16 Thread Kingsley Idehen
On 5/16/12 5:45 PM, Bernard Vatant wrote: Thanks to all who had this ground ploughed and sown patiently since those dark ages where Google was all but an idea. Now the grain is ripe and it's a great time for them to harvest ... hope we are left with some crumbs to pick up as a reward of our

Re: Introducing the Knowledge Graph: things, not strings

2012-05-16 Thread David Wood
On May 16, 2012, at 17:45, Bernard Vatant wrote: Thanks to all who had this ground ploughed and sown patiently since those dark ages where Google was all but an idea. Now the grain is ripe and it's a great time for them to harvest ... hope we are left with some crumbs to pick up as a reward

Re: Introducing the Knowledge Graph: things, not strings

2012-05-16 Thread Adrian Walker
Hi All, Nice videos etc, but has anyone found a link to actually *use* Knowledge Graph ? If it's not online yet, one wonders why Google chose to pre-announce it. Thanks, -- Adrian Internet Business Logic A Wiki and SOA Endpoint for Executable Open Vocabulary English Q/A over

Re: Introducing the Knowledge Graph: things, not strings

2012-05-16 Thread Kingsley Idehen
On 5/16/12 6:25 PM, Adrian Walker wrote: Hi All, Nice videos etc, but has anyone found a link to actually *use* Knowledge Graph ? If it's not online yet, one wonders why Google chose to pre-announce it. Thanks, -- Adrian Cos Linked Data changes behavior :-) This is a

RE: Introducing the Knowledge Graph: things, not strings

2012-05-16 Thread Joshi, Amit Krishna
Subject: Re: Introducing the Knowledge Graph: things, not strings On 5/16/12 6:25 PM, Adrian Walker wrote: Hi All, Nice videos etc, but has anyone found a link to actually *use* Knowledge Graph ? If it's not online yet, one wonders why Google chose to pre-announce it. Thanks

Re: Introducing the Knowledge Graph: things, not strings

2012-05-16 Thread Bernard Vatant
... To put it in a longer way. Yes this is great news, although it's not completely news, we had quite a few hints of it by Google in the past months. But what is just unfair is Google presenting this as if they had invented it. Apart from a quick allusion to DBpedia and Freebase, no mention of

Re: Introducing the Knowledge Graph: things, not strings

2012-05-16 Thread Kingsley Idehen
On 5/16/12 6:33 PM, Amit Krishna Joshi wrote: Good news for all of us in the semantic web community. Just wondering why Google is reluctant to use 'semantic' word even once in the blog http://googleblog.blogspot.de/2012/05/introducing-knowledge-graph-things-not.html. As they say: its

Re: Introducing the Knowledge Graph: things, not strings

2012-05-16 Thread Bernard Vatant
Adrian Don't dream of accessing the Google Knowledge Graph and query it through a SPARQL endpoint as you do for DBpedia. As every Google critical technological infrastructure, I'm afraid it will be well hidden under the hood, and accessible only through the search interface. If they ever expose

Re: Introducing the Knowledge Graph: things, not strings

2012-05-16 Thread Kingsley Idehen
On 5/16/12 6:55 PM, Bernard Vatant wrote: Adrian Don't dream of accessing the Google Knowledge Graph and query it through a SPARQL endpoint as you do for DBpedia. As every Google critical technological infrastructure, I'm afraid it will be well hidden under the hood, and accessible only

Re: Introducing the Knowledge Graph: things, not strings

2012-05-16 Thread Daniel Schwabe
On May 16, 2012, at 20:04 - 16/05/12, Kingsley Idehen wrote: On 5/16/12 6:55 PM, Bernard Vatant wrote: Adrian Don't dream of accessing the Google Knowledge Graph and query it through a SPARQL endpoint as you do for DBpedia. As every Google critical technological

Re: Introducing the Knowledge Graph: things, not strings

2012-05-16 Thread Kingsley Idehen
On 5/16/12 8:32 PM, Daniel Schwabe wrote: On May 16, 2012, at 20:04 - 16/05/12, Kingsley Idehen wrote: On 5/16/12 6:55 PM, Bernard Vatant wrote: Adrian Don't dream of accessing the Google Knowledge Graph and query it through a SPARQL endpoint as you do for DBpedia. As every Google