Re: annotations and RDF

2013-02-12 Thread Dr David Shotton
On 07/02/2013 14:54, Paolo Ciccarese wrote: We also use CiTO and FaBIO for storing the bibliographic data and those are based on FRBR. Dear Paolo, Robert and Herbert, I'm in Leiden at a conference with Bob Morris. We've just had a brief discussion about the potential use of AO to

Re: annotations and RDF

2013-02-12 Thread Robert Sanderson
Hi David, (And cc'ing the Open Annotation list as well) Yes that looks fine. If the annotation is about the citation, rather than the paper, then it should definitely target a resource that identifies the citation. I don't want to comment on the use of Named Graphs (see [2]) for the citation,

Re: annotations and RDF

2013-02-12 Thread Paolo Ciccarese
Dear David, in general we have not been focusing enough on these aspects yet. However, that is one of the top items in the priority list and it would be great if you could participate to the discussion. As Rob pointed out, with very few tweaks your example could work in compliance with OA as

Re: annotations and RDF

2013-02-12 Thread Dr David Shotton
Thanks to you both. Tweak away to get this right! David On 12/02/2013 17:44, Paolo Ciccarese wrote: Dear David, in general we have not been focusing enough on these aspects yet. However, that is one of the top items in the priority list and it would be great if you could participate to the

Re: annotations and RDF

2013-02-07 Thread Matteo Casu
Thank you Robert! I've just seen what I think is the new draft (february 5th). I will go through it! In the meantime, I'm wondering what you think on the problem of keeping all the annotations of a text in RDF vs. keeping them in a separate store and bind them to entities in the RDF. The use

Re: annotations and RDF

2013-02-07 Thread Martynas Jusevičius
Matteo, if you want annotations interleaving with text, maybe you could use RDFa? Here's one of the first RDFa annotations Google hits: http://www.aclweb.org/anthology-new/R/R11/R11-2008.pdf Martynas graphity.org On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 3:43 PM, Matteo Casu mattec...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you

Re: annotations and RDF

2013-02-07 Thread Paolo Ciccarese
Hi Matteo, in the Domeo Annotation Tool http://annotationframework.org we do exactly that. We create annotation on text fragment(s), images, tables and we store the annotation, together with the info for detecting the text fragments in a RDF in a separate store. In fact, most of hte times we do

Re: annotations and RDF

2013-02-07 Thread Matteo Casu
Hi Paolo, my concerning was about the info for detecting the text fragment: do you use a begin/end approach on the document (as in UIMA) without storing the body of the text? If it is so, then everything is clear to me. Forgive me, my point of view is still unripe on the subject, so probably

Re: annotations and RDF

2013-02-07 Thread Paolo Ciccarese
Hi Matteo, you can do both. You can use begin/end or prefix/suffix. It depends on your needs. For instance, if I want to be able to transfer the Domeo annotation from HTML to PDF I need to use prefix/suffix. If the content you are annotating does not have problems of normalization you can use

annotations and RDF

2013-02-04 Thread Matteo Casu
Hi everybody, [my apologies for cross posting -- possibly of interest for both communities] does anybody could point me to the major pros and cons in using the Annotation Ontology [0] [1] vs. the NLP interchange format in the context of annotating (portions of) literary texts? My impression is

Re: annotations and RDF

2013-02-04 Thread Paul Groth
Hi Matteo, Something also to look at is the Open Annotation spec [1], which is being produced out of the combination of the Annotation Ontology and Open Annotation Model. It seems like there's a lot of community support around it. Paul [1] http://www.openannotation.org/spec/core/ On Mon, Feb

Re: annotations and RDF

2013-02-04 Thread Robert Sanderson
Hi Matteo, The Annotation Ontology has merged with Open Annotation Collaboration in the W3C community group: http://www.w3.org/community/openannotation/ And Paolo is co-chair along with myself. We're *just* about to release the next version of the Community Group draft, so your interest comes