Re: best practice RDF in HTML

2012-06-13 Thread Martynas Jusevičius
Hey Sebastian, can't you simply use link rel=alternate type=application/rdf+xml href=recshop.rdf ? It's not embedding per se, but it's one of the patterns. More info here: http://linkeddatabook.com/editions/1.0/#htoc66 (section Making RDF Discoverable from HTML) Martynas graphity.org On Tue,

Re: best practice RDF in HTML

2012-06-13 Thread Sebastian Hellmann
Dear Martynas, the parallel way has some disadvantages in a dynamic context, so I was asking what the latest best practice was to embed RDF in HTML. Having a companion or separate RDF file is definitely suitable for most of the use cases, but not always (e.g. in the case of an annotation web

Re: best practice RDF in HTML

2012-06-13 Thread Martin Hepp
We discourage the use of large RDF/XML dump files in the context of GoodRelations, since they are a perfect entry for Denial-of-Service attacks. Also, properly deploying RDF/XML resources on production systems is often difficult in an enterprise context. Even supporting the rdf/xml media type

best practice RDF in HTML

2012-06-12 Thread Sebastian Hellmann
Dear list, What are the best practice to include a set of RDF triples in HTML. *Please note*: I am not looking for the RDFa way to include triples. I just want to add a set of triples somewhere in an HTML document. They are not supposed to show up like Wikinomics, Don Tapscott in the

Re: best practice RDF in HTML

2012-06-12 Thread John Erickson
Sebastian, is the requirement that the RDF not be *integrated* with the content of the page --- in other words, you just want to embed a dump of some RDF? Why not link to a RDF or TTL file? On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 10:02 AM, Sebastian Hellmann hellm...@informatik.uni-leipzig.de wrote: Dear list,

Re: best practice RDF in HTML

2012-06-12 Thread Sebastian Hellmann
Dear John, I know that linking would be the clean solution, but sometimes this is difficult. The HTML gets send around by web services orchestrated by a CMS. It would be difficult to create temporary links to include in the HTML, e.g. you would have to set a time to life and do extra access

Re: best practice RDF in HTML

2012-06-12 Thread Stéphane Corlosquet
Sebastian, On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 3:02 PM, Sebastian Hellmann hellm...@informatik.uni-leipzig.de wrote: Dear list, What are the best practice to include a set of RDF triples in HTML. *Please note*: I am not looking for the RDFa way to include triples. I just want to add a set of triples

Re: best practice RDF in HTML

2012-06-12 Thread Gannon Dick
/FunForLibrarians.pdf From: John Erickson olyerick...@gmail.com To: Sebastian Hellmann hellm...@informatik.uni-leipzig.de Cc: public-lod public-lod@w3.org; semantic-web semantic-...@w3.org Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 9:32 AM Subject: Re: best practice RDF in HTML

Re: best practice RDF in HTML

2012-06-12 Thread John Erickson
From: John Erickson olyerick...@gmail.com To: Sebastian Hellmann hellm...@informatik.uni-leipzig.de Cc: public-lod public-lod@w3.org; semantic-web semantic-...@w3.org Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 9:32 AM Subject: Re: best practice RDF in HTML Sebastian, is the requirement

Re: best practice RDF in HTML

2012-06-12 Thread Barry Norton
...@gmail.com To: Sebastian Hellmannhellm...@informatik.uni-leipzig.de Cc: public-lodpublic-lod@w3.org; semantic-websemantic-...@w3.org Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 9:32 AM Subject: Re: best practice RDF in HTML Sebastian, is the requirement that the RDF not be *integrated* with the content of the page

Re: best practice RDF in HTML

2012-06-12 Thread Sebastian Hellmann
Dear Mark, my main concerns are: 1. What are the best practices to include invisible RDFa in an HTML document. I think Keith answered that. Maybe at the end of the body would be the most unobtrusive way. The same question was raised here:

Re: best practice RDF in HTML

2012-06-12 Thread Martin Hepp
Hi all: First, a few arguments in favor of using invisible data content in RDFa are in [1]. Also note our two tools [2] and [3] that can generate RDFa snippets from other RDF syntaxes with ease, so you can e.g. model your data structures in nice Turtle and then derive the RDFa patterns