Hi Hugh,
thank you very much for your positive feedback.
Yes, we decided not to include sameAs.org as we understand it to be more a
service that works on top of the LOD cloud than an actual dataset that
contributes additional data to the cloud.
We hope that this interpretation is OK with you
Hi Chris,
On 15 Aug 2014, at 11:15, Christian Bizer ch...@bizer.de wrote:
Hi Hugh,
thank you very much for your positive feedback.
Richly deserved.
Yes, we decided not to include sameAs.org as we understand it to be more a
service that works on top of the LOD cloud than an actual dataset
So sameAs.org never appears in any of this stuff.
That’s deliberate.
The whole idea of it is that it doesn’t add to the plethora of URIs by
generating new ones.
But it seems that people do find it useful - I get emails from people about it,
especially when it does strange things :-)
sameAs.org
On 7/25/14 3:02 PM, Hugh Glaser wrote:
So sameAs.org never appears in any of this stuff.
That’s deliberate.
The whole idea of it is that it doesn’t add to the plethora of URIs by
generating new ones.
But it seems that people do find it useful - I get emails from people about it,
especially
Thanks Ghislain.
Sorry, no SPARQL endpoint, as it isn't an RDF store.
With respect to a license, it is more difficult.
This may be a longer answer than you were expecting. :-)
(Firstly, please understand that I'm not very good with this license stuff.)
When I started sameAs.org, it only had
taken?
My understanding was that alternatives to sameAs should be used unless there is
absolutely no doubt that the two Things are in fact exactly the same entity.
The vast amount of data in sameas.org suggests to me, though, that common
practice is tending towards using (a slightly weaker
Hi.
With the addition of Freebase and British Library data (thank you), it is
exciting to tell you that http://sameas.org has now topped 100M URIs.
I am always happy to get more data, and can bring up individual sub-stores for
people who want them.
So please feel free to ask me to add your
The number of URIs in http://sameas.org/ has been relatively static at just
over 48M for a long time.
But with the recent addition of new sets of links from Freebase, I thought it
would be nice to tell you that it now has well over 50 million and climbing.
Of course, size is not everything
the problems you raise are valid.
Just a short response.
In some sense I consider sameas.org http://sameas.org to be a discovery
service.
Indeed, so do I. The known issue is the overload of owl:sameAs, but you have
an excellent presentation today of Pat Hayes and Harry Halpin just coming ...
(you
Adrian Walker
Reengineering
On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 11:38 AM, Bernard Vatant bernard.vat...@mondeca.com
wrote:
Hi Hugh
2010/4/27 Hugh Glaser h...@ecs.soton.ac.uk
Thanks Bernard.
Yes, I think the problems you raise are valid.
Just a short response.
In some sense I consider sameas.org
Hi Hugh
2010/4/27 Hugh Glaser h...@ecs.soton.ac.uk
Thanks Bernard.
Yes, I think the problems you raise are valid.
Just a short response.
In some sense I consider sameas.org to be a discovery service.
Indeed, so do I. The known issue is the overload of owl:sameAs, but you have
an excellent
Thanks Bernard.
Yes, I think the problems you raise are valid.
Just a short response.
In some sense I consider sameas.org to be a discovery service.
This is in contrast to a service that might be called something more definitive.
So I have taken quite a liberal view of what I will accept
with rdfs:seeAlso
http://sameas.org/rdf?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fsws.geonames.org%2F2078025%2Fperhaps?
This seems like a good idea. Considering that geonames.org cannot dedicate
(m)any resources to LOD mappings, those can be deferred to external services
such as sameas.org. The sameas.org URI is easy to generate
sws.geonames URIs, SPARQL endpoint etc. Bearing in mind that Geonames.org
has no dedicated resources for it, who will care of that in a scalable way?
What is the business model? Good questions. Volunteers, step forward :)
Bernard
Hi Bernard, the need to automatically interlink at large
Hi Giovanni
2010/4/23 Giovanni Tummarello giovanni.tummare...@deri.org
Hi Bernard, the need to automatically interlink at large scale, and
give clean, and high performance querable datasets to users is well
recognized and supported e.g. also by the new EU funded projects which
still cant be
so hang on tight a bit.. we're working on this, just continue
publishing high quality data with good entity descriptions (as much as
you know about YOUR stuff), and the links will come to you just like
that at some point. I promise :)
WOW ... rings a bell ...and all these things will be
Very early days yet, but started a simple OS OpenSpace map interface for
sameas.org.
I hope to extend this to all administrative/voting regions in GB.
But just to get going:
http://www.johngoodwin.me.uk/boundaries/constsameas.html
John
This email is only intended for the person to whom
Kingsley Idehen wrote:
Pretty cool!
Thanks :)
I would suggest following (one of options):
1. Use link/ to expose the URIs for Bedford, Birmingham etc..
2. RDFa in the HTML instead of link/ re. URI exposure
3. Atom/RSS feed that exposes URIs for each place or URIs for RDF docs
(info.
Hugh, Toby
Thanks for the follow-up on this, and well, I'm pretty much convinced
now that rdfs:seeAlso is the simplest way to achieve the backlink to
sameas.org
And thinking twice, I'm now also convinced that neither adding any
specific semantics to this link nor specifying the class
On Wed, 2009-06-03 at 20:48 +0100, Hugh Glaser wrote:
We are pleased to offer http://sameas.org/ as a service to provide you
with help finding URIs.
I wonder if in http://example.com/foo I wrote:
#me foaf:based_near _:lewes .
_:lewes owl:sameAs http://dbpedia.org/resource
Hello Hugh,
/me catching up on some much missed reading...
Cool service.
I saw this in you're exchanges with Richard...
http://sameas.org/rdf?uri=http://richard.cyganiak.de/foaf.rdf%23cygri
dc:title Co-references from sameAs.org for foaf.rdf#cygri .
Seems good, goes on the list
On 04/06/2009 00:54, Richard Cyganiak rich...@cyganiak.de wrote:
Many thanks.
Hope Ian's mods sort of fit:
Hugh, Ian,
snip /
dc:title Co-references from sameAs.org for foaf.rdf#cygri .
Done.
Then, a foaf:primaryTopic triple would make several tools (most of all
Tabulator) very happy
This is the license you're looking for...
http://www.opendatacommons.org/licenses/pddl/1.0/
It's a public-domain dedication and license that says anyone is free
to do as they wish with the data.
If you're feeling more brand-conscious then CC0 also has the same
effect and works for data,
Hugh, and all
Looking at the very cool stuff at sameas.org, comes to my mind that at
least, my old dream of hubjects has come true ...
Richard now points his finger at the moon, by asking What is the
semantics of a sameas.org URI?
Basically I would say none or as closer to none as possible
Agreed. Go for CC0.
Disclaimers are an orthogonal issue I *hope*.
On 2009-06 -08, at 00:13, Marc Wick wrote:
Added some words in the about - any advice as to what the licence
might be?
I guess there is some cc licence that corresponds to:
The information is provided as-is and without any
On 8 Jun 2009, at 12:22, Bernard Vatant wrote:
http://sameas.org/html?uri=http://www.lingvoj.org/lang/fr provides
16 equivalent URIs (including the original one).
At http://www.lingvoj.org/lang/fr I've gathered painfully only 10
of those :-)
But now that sameas.org is alive, why should I
On 08/06/2009 20:59, Toby A Inkster t...@g5n.co.uk wrote:
On 8 Jun 2009, at 12:22, Bernard Vatant wrote:
http://sameas.org/html?uri=http://www.lingvoj.org/lang/fr provides
16 equivalent URIs (including the original one).
At http://www.lingvoj.org/lang/fr I've gathered painfully only 10
Thank you all.
Very helpful.
On 08/06/2009 12:45, Tim Berners-Lee ti...@w3.org wrote:
Agreed. Go for CC0.
Disclaimers are an orthogonal issue I *hope*.
On 2009-06 -08, at 00:13, Marc Wick wrote:
Added some words in the about - any advice as to what the licence
might be?
I guess
I hate to continue the licence issue; I really don't care, but it seems I
should have something.
And the same is true of my other sites.
And maybe people can help.
The Open Database Licence puts constraints on users, such as:
Include a copy of this Licence
And as far as I can see, the most
Perhaps you're looking for CC0, a waiver (as opposed to a license) of
copyright and neighboring rights?
http://creativecommons.org/license/zero and
http://creativecommons.org/publicdomain/zero/1.0/
Nathan
On Sun, Jun 7, 2009 at 3:54 PM, Hugh Glaser h...@ecs.soton.ac.uk wrote:
I hate to continue
Chris,
On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 6:46 PM, richard.hanc...@3kbo.com wrote:
Hi Azamat,
one thing I would like to be able to do is enter a search query similar
to
the following:
Kiwi a bird
using the a to indicate rdf:type and to substitute for bird the
classes known to represent that
Abdoullaev
- Original Message -
From: richard.hanc...@3kbo.com
To: Azamat abd...@cytanet.com.cy
Cc: 'SW-forum' semantic-...@w3.org; public-lod@w3.org; Chris Wallace
chris.wall...@uwe.ac.uk
Sent: Saturday, June 06, 2009 2:46 AM
Subject: Re: sameas.org
Hi Azamat,
one thing I would
Richard,
thanks for the link to your presentation, it helped explain how razorbase
works and made navigating to the desired result easier.
Thanks, so glad to hear it was useful.
One suggestion re the slides, since the kiwi is not an Australian bird you
may want to change slide 27 to
Chris,
Looks very good - I'll give it a spin. I'd be interested to know what
algorithm is used here to bring the bird meaning to the top of the results.
Cool, thanks. As far as the algorithm [1], it's Entity Rank and
co-frequencies, explained in depth in this paper by Orri Erling [2].
I
On 05/06/2009 04:09, Giovanni Tummarello g.tummare...@gmail.com wrote:
a New Zealander and a Kiwifruit)
throws up a radio station, an animated cartoon and lots of wordnet links to
a
juggle of plumbing but no juice. No sign of
http://dbpedia.org/resource/Kiwi however
Ah.
We only
On 4 Jun 2009, at 23:47, Hugh Glaser wrote:
Added some words in the about - any advice as to what the licence
might be?
I guess there is some cc licence that corresponds to:
The information is provided as-is and without any warranty.
It is freely available for any use as you wish.
I would
Hugh Glaser wrote
On 05/06/2009 04:09, Giovanni Tummarello g.tummare...@gmail.com wrote:
a New Zealander and a Kiwifruit)
throws up a radio station, an animated cartoon and lots of wordnet links to
a
juggle of plumbing but no juice. No sign of
http://dbpedia.org/resource/Kiwi however
Chris Wallace wrote:
Hugh Glaser wrote
On 05/06/2009 04:09, Giovanni Tummarello g.tummare...@gmail.com wrote:
a New Zealander and a Kiwifruit)
throws up a radio station, an animated cartoon and lots of wordnet links to
a
juggle of plumbing but no juice. No sign of
public-lod@w3.org; Ian Millard i...@ecs.soton.ac.uk
Sent: Friday, June 05, 2009 1:36 PM
Subject: RE: sameas.org
Hugh Glaser wrote
On 05/06/2009 04:09, Giovanni Tummarello g.tummare...@gmail.com
wrote:
a New Zealander and a Kiwifruit)
throws up a radio station, an animated cartoon and lots
conventional web behaviour.
- not your problem but I note that search via Sindice is rather
disappointing - for example
http://sameas.org/html?q=Kiwi (a general term for a flightless bird
found in New Zealand divided into several species, but also a colloquial
expression for a New Zealander
Hugh wrote:
We are pleased to offer http://sameas.org/ as a service to
provide you with help finding URIs.
Great stuff. Are there any plans to provide a way to make feedback on
dodgy sameAs relationships we come across?
I noticed that Southampton (UK) has a few dodgy ones:
http
had a motive for not fixing Southampton, so that these
issues might come out if people were interested; was pretty sure you would
notice :-)
On 04/06/2009 08:25, John Goodwin john.good...@ordnancesurvey.co.uk
wrote:
Hugh wrote:
We are pleased to offer http://sameas.org/ as a service to
provide
Good morning..
Hugh wrote:
Even so, I did see things, although I can only recall one
other at the moment which comes from a dbpedia-opencyc
problem (it's a band thing).
Some might argue that the band in question are indeed a torture device
;) Interestingly I noticed that a Dbpedia-Fbase
owl:sameAs
http://sameas.org/rdf?uri=http://richard.cyganiak.de/foaf.rdf%23cygri#this
.
(Okay, I like this mostly because of the recursive cleverness of the
idea. In reality, an rdfs:seeAlso would probably do just fine. But isn't
owl:sameAs sooo much sexier?)
The risk here is that sameas.org
, U4 .
That way, I could add a nice triple to my FOAF file:
#cygri owl:sameAs
http://sameas.org/rdf?uri=http://richard.cyganiak.de/foaf.rdf%23cygri#this
.
(Okay, I like this mostly because of the recursive cleverness of the
idea. In reality, an rdfs:seeAlso would probably do just fine
via Sindice is rather disappointing
- for example
http://sameas.org/html?q=Kiwi (a general term for a flightless bird found in
New Zealand divided into several species, but also a colloquial expression for
a New Zealander and a Kiwifruit)
throws up a radio station, an animated cartoon
The following formats are also supported:
rdf+xml, text/n3, application/json, text/plain
Starting on the HTML search result page and clicking though to the rdf+xml,
n3, etc links, the uri query string parameter isn't %-encoded, so fragment
identifiers don't get seen by the scripts which
On Thu, 2009-06-04 at 00:54 +0100, Richard Cyganiak wrote:
The general RDF graph has the shape
U1 owl:sameAs U1, U2, U3, U4 .
Oh yes, another thing: saying the above, with OWL reasoning in place is
equivalent to saying:
U1 owl:sameAs U1, U1, U1, U1 .
in a way. For this reason, you
/socialgraph/
eg. for me,
http://sameas.org/html?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fdanbri.org%2Ffoaf.rdf%23danbrix=9y=1
5
gives:
1.http://danbri.livejournal.com/data/foaf
2.http://danbri.org/foaf#danbri
3.http://danbri.org/foaf.rdf#danbri
4.http://downlode.org/Code/RDF/FOAF/foaf.rdf#danbri
5.http://downlode.org
On 4 Jun 2009, at 12:18, Toby Inkster wrote:
On Thu, 2009-06-04 at 00:54 +0100, Richard Cyganiak wrote:
The general RDF graph has the shape
A: U1 owl:sameAs U1, U2, U3, U4 .
Oh yes, another thing: saying the above, with OWL reasoning in place
is
equivalent to saying:
B: U1 owl:sameAs
Hugh Glaser wrote:
We are pleased to offer http://sameas.org/ as a service to provide you with
help finding URIs.
It sort of does what it says:- if you provide a URI, it will give you back
URIs that may well be co-referent, should any be known to it.
In addition, by using sindice.com, if you
Hugh Glaser wrote:
We are pleased to offer http://sameas.org/ as a service to provide you with
help finding URIs.
It sort of does what it says:- if you provide a URI, it will give you back
URIs that may well be co-referent, should any be known to it.
In addition, by using sindice.com, if you
triple to my FOAF file:
#cygri owl:sameAs
http://sameas.org/rdf?uri=http://richard.cyganiak.de/foaf.rdf%23cygri#this
.
(Okay, I like this mostly because of the recursive cleverness of the
idea. In reality, an rdfs:seeAlso would probably do just fine. But
isn't owl:sameAs sooo much
a New Zealander and a Kiwifruit)
throws up a radio station, an animated cartoon and lots of wordnet links to a
juggle of plumbing but no juice. No sign of
http://dbpedia.org/resource/Kiwi however
Ah.
We only look at the first n results from Sindice, and clearly kiwi is a
popular name.
We are pleased to offer http://sameas.org/ as a service to provide you with
help finding URIs.
It sort of does what it says:- if you provide a URI, it will give you back
URIs that may well be co-referent, should any be known to it.
In addition, by using sindice.com, if you give it a string
2009/6/3 Hugh Glaser h...@ecs.soton.ac.uk:
We are pleased to offer http://sameas.org/ as a service to provide you with
help finding URIs.
Great stuff!
We believe that the Semantic Web and Linked Data need to develop clear,
focussed, services that only do one or two things, so that they can
://sameas.org/ as a service to provide you with
help finding URIs.
It sort of does what it says:- if you provide a URI, it will give you back
URIs that may well be co-referent, should any be known to it.
In addition, by using sindice.com, if you give it a string, it will provide
bundles of URIs
Many thanks, Toby, noted.
I think I'll leave that to Ian in the morning; he knows more, and I am also
learning the hard way not to correct things late at night with a glass in my
hand :-)
I appreciate the time to look at it, and if you see anything else please tell
me.
And thank you to the
lookups.
Thanks,
-sherman
[1] http://lod.openlinksw.com
[2] http://www.slideshare.net/sdmonroe/razorbase-examples-part-2
On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 2:48 PM, Hugh Glaser h...@ecs.soton.ac.uk wrote:
We are pleased to offer http://sameas.org/ as a service to provide you
with
help finding URIs
it would be pretty cool to make it
#this owl:sameAs U1, U2, U3, U4 .
That way, I could add a nice triple to my FOAF file:
#cygri owl:sameAs
http://sameas.org/rdf?uri=http://richard.cyganiak.de/foaf.rdf%23cygri#this
.
(Okay, I like this mostly because of the recursive cleverness
are pleased to offer http://sameas.org/ as a service to provide you with
help finding URIs.
It sort of does what it says:- if you provide a URI, it will give you back
URIs that may well be co-referent, should any be known to it.
In addition, by using sindice.com http://sindice.com , if you give
.
Comments about the RDF output.
The general RDF graph has the shape
U1 owl:sameAs U1, U2, U3, U4 .
I think it would be pretty cool to make it
#this owl:sameAs U1, U2, U3, U4 .
That way, I could add a nice triple to my FOAF file:
#cygri owl:sameAs
http://sameas.org/rdf?uri
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