RE: The king is dressed in void

2008-06-12 Thread Hausenblas, Michael
Giovanni, I think I see your argument here and I tend to agree up to a certain point. What makes me wonder is that it is *you* stating this ;) Seriously, I very much believe in self-descriptive documents, etc. I do prefer simple things that work. However, voiD is just the next logical step

Locating things properly

2008-06-12 Thread Hugh Glaser
Hi LODers, There seems to be quite a bit of stuff about being able to map things, and so we need to know latlong for the stuff we are considering. But, saying where things are by adding latlong is not the True Linked Data Way. Well, in general. The right way is to say where things are by saying

RE: Locating things properly

2008-06-12 Thread Catherine Dolbear
Hi Hugh LODers, This seems to be about knowledge modelling and context. Your first sentence is telling me a very general context/application - you want to be able to map things. For that you need the lat/long [or you could buy lots of lovely OS data and we'd give you a point for the exact

RE: VoCamp - Proposal for a Vocabulary/Ontology Hackfest - Call for Expressions of Interest (was RE: [call for comments] voiD - vocabulary of interlinked datasets)

2008-06-12 Thread Dickinson, Ian J. (HP Labs, Bristol, UK)
Hi Tom, I'm interested in VoCamp, and Oxford sounds good to me. And, er, since I've just arrived on this list, hello! Ian Ian Dickinson http://www.hpl.hp.com/personal/Ian_Dickinson HP Laboratories Bristol mailto:[EMAIL

RE: VoCamp - Proposal for a Vocabulary/Ontology Hackfest - Call for Expressions of Interest (was RE: [call for comments] voiD - vocabulary of interlinked datasets)

2008-06-12 Thread Tom Heath
Hi Ian, Welcome :) Good to see you here, and glad that VoCamp (and Oxford) sound good to you. More details in due course no doubt. Cheers, Tom. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dickinson, Ian J. (HP Labs, Bristol, UK) Sent: 12

Re: Redirection strategy

2008-06-12 Thread Richard Light
Just to report that Kingsley has nailed the problem. It looks as though the RDF Browser is getting to the RDF via the HTML page, relying on a link rel=alternate ... entry in the head of the HTML page, rather than using a 303 redirection strategy to access the RDF directly. I have added a

Re: The monday before Linked Data Planet

2008-06-12 Thread Kjetil Kjernsmo
On Thursday 12 June 2008, Kingsley Idehen wrote: Lets use ESW Wiki to arrange meetups, you will see how this has been done for prior events, most recently ESWC 2008 :-) Good idea! I put up this page:

Re: The king is dressed in void

2008-06-12 Thread Andreas Langegger
Hi there, I've done data integration based on SPARQL in a restricted domain, not web-scale (see SemWIQ presentation at ESWC08 [1]). But the issues are similar. We need some descriptions about sites, owner, license, etc. In our case this is provided upon registration of data sources at

Re: [call for comments] voiD - vocabulary of interlinked datasets

2008-06-12 Thread Peter Ansell
2008/6/12 Yves Raimond [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hello again! As an example is worth 1000 words, I just made up one for this void:example property. http://moustaki.org/void/void.n3 describes some aspects of one of the DBtune dataset. It links, through the void:example property, towards a RDF

Re: The king is dressed in void

2008-06-12 Thread Peter Ansell
I see VOID as going past the need to have a search engine in order to decide which sparql endpoints you need to use to effectively make particular queries based on sample graphs provided by either SPARQL construct queries on the dataset sparql end point or by way of an example document specifying

Re: The king is dressed in void

2008-06-12 Thread Giovanni Tummarello
All of your described functionalities are a subset of what semantic sitemaps are for [1]. Specs aside, the paper [2] might be of interest to some is that we went to some distance in conceptually explaining what publishing and retrieving rdf data on the web means, e.g. using linked open data

Re: The king is dressed in void

2008-06-12 Thread Giovanni Tummarello
Andreas, Licence: yes i agree, it will be added to the sitemap extention much like it happens in microformats already. if you want to use RDF i believe this is what you're looking for http://validator.creativecommons.org/ Statistics: i'd tend to see this use case as a low level one that

Re: The king is dressed in void

2008-06-12 Thread Giovanni Tummarello
Hi Michael, let me clarify that it wasnt really meant to be to: michael you were just there when i replied to the general idea and not you in particular :-) step after semantic sitemaps (it actually is thought to extend it in terms of using the sc:datasetURI as the entry point, see also

Re: The king is dressed in void

2008-06-12 Thread Peter Ansell
Most of the functionality is there. I disagree with the artificial restrictions on sparql graph names being either singular or completely arbitrary. Also, it would be an improvement to specify this information in RDF rather than in XML as sitemaps does if people are expecting to be able to

Re: The king is dressed in void

2008-06-12 Thread Giovanni Tummarello
XML is a step forward. The thing started in RDF with something called semantic crawling ontology (sorry the link is broken, will have it fixed tomorrow http://www.sindice.com/semantic-crawling-ontology.html ) which had all the terms fo the sitemap in RDF already.Originally we wanted to propose a

Re: The king is dressed in void

2008-06-12 Thread Peter Ansell
2008/6/13 Giovanni Tummarello [EMAIL PROTECTED]: XML is a step forward. The thing started in RDF with something called semantic crawling ontology (sorry the link is broken, will have it fixed tomorrow http://www.sindice.com/semantic-crawling-ontology.html ) which had all the terms fo the