Re: vocabularies and data alignment

2009-06-12 Thread François Scharffe
Hugh Glaser wrote: Hi, To put it in simple terms for me :-) Are you after the algorithms we use to identify when two instances are the same? Best Hugh Yes ! François On 11/06/2009 12:57, François Scharffe francois.schar...@inria.fr wrote: Dear LODers, There has been a couple of

Re: vocabularies and data alignment

2009-06-12 Thread Aldo Bucchi
Hi, * Francois said, initially: There has been a couple of discussions already on this list on the need for a vocabulary to represent correspondences between terms of different vocabularies * Hugh asked: Are you after the algorithms we use to identify when two instances are the same? *

Re: vocabularies and data alignment

2009-06-12 Thread François Scharffe
Hi, I think we all want to do the same thing: aligning vocabularies in order to enhance interoperability in the cloud. There is the top-down approach: aligning vocabularies first, and using the alignment to provide functionalities for the data. For example, if Google releases a dataset using

Re: Common Tag - semantic tagging convention

2009-06-12 Thread Yves Raimond
Hello! On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 11:38 AM, Danny Ayersdanny.ay...@gmail.com wrote: Really good to see this work! May be nothing, but...it appears the tagging date is associated with the tag. I assume most systems would want to infer that tags with the same meaning were equivalent (even though

Re: Common Tag - semantic tagging convention

2009-06-12 Thread Toby Inkster
On Fri, 2009-06-12 at 12:15 +0200, Peter Mika wrote: Indeed, you cannot do this merging: a ctag:Tag refers to the tagging event. So the concepts they refer to (ctag:means) might be the same, the Tags are not. Then http://commontag.org/mapping is wrong. It states: ctag:Tag

Re: Common Tag - semantic tagging convention

2009-06-12 Thread Toby Inkster
On Fri, 2009-06-12 at 11:47 +0100, Toby Inkster wrote: In essence it seems ctag:Tag is a sort of hybrid between tag:Tagging and tag:Tag. There's nothing wrong with that per se, but it does mean that your mappings to Richard Newman's tag ontology are probably never going to work especially

Re: vocabularies and data alignment

2009-06-12 Thread Kingsley Idehen
François Scharffe wrote: Hugh Glaser wrote: Hi, To put it in simple terms for me :-) Are you after the algorithms we use to identify when two instances are the same? Best Hugh Yes ! François So if the answer is Yes. Then do you mean things in the ABox and TBox? Must be clear here as

Re: vocabularies and data alignment

2009-06-12 Thread Kingsley Idehen
François Scharffe wrote: Kingsley Idehen wrote: François Scharffe wrote: Hugh Glaser wrote: Hi, To put it in simple terms for me :-) Are you after the algorithms we use to identify when two instances are the same? Best Hugh Yes ! François So if the answer is Yes. Then do you mean

Re: Common Tag - semantic tagging convention

2009-06-12 Thread François Dongier
Peter, maybe you could explain why you guys found it useful to date tagging events in the first place. I suppose the point of it might be that it could provide some context? If so, the date is only one aspect of the context and probably not the richest one. On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 1:50 PM, Danny

Re: Common Tag - semantic tagging convention

2009-06-12 Thread Peter Mika
Maybe others can comment as well, but I do think it's an important piece of information, e.g. to determine recently popular tags. Cheers, Peter François Dongier wrote: Peter, maybe you could explain why you guys found it useful to date tagging events in the first place. I suppose the point of

Re: vocabularies and data alignment

2009-06-12 Thread Aldo Bucchi
François, On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 9:07 AM, François Scharffefrancois.schar...@inria.fr wrote: Kingsley Idehen wrote: François Scharffe wrote: Hugh Glaser wrote: Hi, To put it in simple terms for me :-) Are you after the algorithms we use to identify when two instances are the same?

Re: Common Tag - semantic tagging convention

2009-06-12 Thread Toby Inkster
On Fri, 2009-06-12 at 10:31 -0400, Valeska Oleary wrote: It’s hard to comment without understanding the use cases and scenarios, but high level speaking I’m inclined to think date is a valuable piece of information to most publishers. I imagine the date of publication of an article, plus dates

Re: Common Tag - semantic tagging convention

2009-06-12 Thread François Dongier
2009/6/12 Peter Mika pm...@yahoo-inc.com Maybe others can comment as well, but I do think it's [taggingDate] an important piece of information, e.g. to determine recently popular tags. In my very humble opinion, **who** tagged a resource with ctag T at time t could also be a very useful

Re: Common Tag - semantic tagging convention

2009-06-12 Thread Jamie Taylor
Francois - Agree - I think knowing who created a tag is an important annotation. The thought was that you could mix in another vocabulary's property like foaf:maker for things like that. Common Tag is simply a small skeleton for representing the basic Tag structure. The hope was people

Re: BBC Programmes and Music Data in the Talis Platform

2009-06-12 Thread Leigh Dodds
Hi, 2009/6/10 Ian Davis li...@iandavis.com: We will also be blogging constantly highlighting cool uses of the data on the Talis Platform developer blog at http://blogs.talis.com/n2/ These posts are are now accumulating under the bbc tag on the blog, so if you're not already signed up to the

Re: BBC Programmes and Music Data in the Talis Platform

2009-06-12 Thread Kingsley Idehen
Leigh Dodds wrote: Hi, 2009/6/10 Ian Davis li...@iandavis.com: We will also be blogging constantly highlighting cool uses of the data on the Talis Platform developer blog at http://blogs.talis.com/n2/ These posts are are now accumulating under the bbc tag on the blog, so if you're

Re: Common Tag - semantic tagging convention

2009-06-12 Thread Giovanni Tummarello
On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 9:44 AM, Toby Inkstert...@g5n.co.uk wrote: On Fri, 2009-06-12 at 01:33 +0200, Andraz Tori wrote: also to note is that there exist proper mappings to other efforts at tagging ontologies: http://commontag.org/mappings The question is though, will Search Monkey, Sindice,