Re: Slideshare.net as Linked Data

2010-06-08 Thread Barry Norton
Olaf, just the fellow :) I was thinking I'd like to see (as we were just discussing about Linked Open Services in Crete) a bit of: prv:retrievedBy [ a prv:DataAccess ; prv:accessedService [... foaf:homepage http://slideshare.net/ ] ; prv:performedAt 2010-06-07T20:59:42+00:00^^xsd:dateTime ;

Re: The Ordered List Ontology

2010-06-30 Thread Barry Norton
I wondered who'd be first to mention lazy-evaluation FP :) (My example would have been in Haskell) Barry On 30/06/10 20:01, Hugh Glaser wrote: Enjoying a trip down memory lane when I used to be functional On 30/06/2010 12:45, Toby Inkstert...@g5n.co.uk wrote: On Wed, 30 Jun 2010

PhD Position at KIT

2010-09-22 Thread Barry Norton
-76128 Karlsruhe, Germany. For questions about the vacancy please contact Dr. Barry Norton, barry.nor...@kit.edu. Preliminary application deadline is the 6th October 2010. Subsequent applications may possibly also be considered.

Re: Possible Idea For a Sem Web Based Game?

2010-11-21 Thread Barry Norton
Forgive my dropping into the conversation to be critical, but in #node1 #hide-under-rug #node2 . #hide-under-rug does not seem like a predicate defining the relationship between two nodes. It's clear to see how this came about, as north_of and south_of could be predicates (and easily

Re: [ANN] DBpedia Spotlight - Text Annotation with DBpedia Resources

2011-02-14 Thread Barry Norton
* [...] Java / Scala API +1 more! I'm looking forward to taking a look at this, guys. Barry Norton http://www.linkedopenservices.org

Re: Exciting changes at Data.Southampton.ac.uk!

2011-04-01 Thread Barry Norton
Congratulations on the move to PDF, but shouldn't these resources really be SOAP-resolvable? It's so backwards-looking merely to rely on HTTP when there's a whole stack of technologies you could employ here... Barry On 01/04/2011 09:23, Christopher Gutteridge wrote: After some heated

RE: Linked Media: Extending Linked Data for Updates and arbitrary Media Formats using the REST Principles

2011-05-05 Thread Barry Norton
Sebastian, Michael, can I also point out Linked Open Services [1] as related work. This approach also tries to bring together the full uniform interface of REST with Linked Data principles, and provides one answer to Michael's question about the role of SPARQL in common with other approaches,

RE: Linked Media: Extending Linked Data for Updates and arbitrary Media Formats using the REST Principles

2011-05-05 Thread Barry Norton
/2011 12:09 PM To: Barry Norton Cc: Michael Hausenblas; public-lod Subject: Re: Linked Media: Extending Linked Data for Updates and arbitrary Media Formats using the REST Principles Dear Barry, thanks for your comments. Linked Open Services indeed seems very related technology-wise

3rd International Summer School on Semantic Computing

2011-06-10 Thread Barry Norton
Call for Participation 3rd International Summer School on Semantic Computing August 8-12, 2011 at the University of California, Berkeley Sponsored by IEEE and STI International Supported by PlanetData, Franz Inc. and videolectures.net Brought to you by the Institute of Semantic Computing and

Browser Extension for setting HTTP headers

2011-07-31 Thread Barry Norton
Does anyone know a browser extension that will allow one to set the 'Accept:' HTTP header and follow redirects (a la curl -L), but actually show what it's done (a la curl -i)? Hopefully one that works in both Firefox and Chrome (a la Poster, but without this lack). Barry

Re: Browser Extension for setting HTTP headers

2011-07-31 Thread Barry Norton
://linkeddata.deri.ie/ http://sw-app.org/about.html On 31 Jul 2011, at 10:34, Barry Norton wrote: Does anyone know a browser extension that will allow one to set the 'Accept:' HTTP header and follow redirects (a la curl -L), but actually show what it's done (a la curl -i)? Hopefully one

RE: Vocabulary for weather data logging?

2011-08-11 Thread Barry Norton
It's rather long-in-the-tooth (with some poor modelling choices), but there's always: http://www.csd.abdn.ac.uk/research/AgentCities/WeatherAgent/weather-ont.daml We included it in the 'Linked Services' for weather (updated for OWL) due to its long-standing and close fit with METAR reports.

Re: Weather related information published as Linked Data

2011-08-26 Thread Barry Norton
Richard, this is something we looked into as a case study for Linked Services [1, 2], see linkedopenservices.org. Barry [1] 'Geospatial Linked Open Services', Proc. Towards Digital Earth Workshop http://sunsite.informatik.rwth-aachen.de/Publications/CEUR-WS/Vol-640/ [2] 'Consuming Dynamic

Re: Question: Authoritative URIs for Geo locations? Multi-lingual labels?

2011-09-09 Thread Barry Norton
How about Geonames, Ordnance Survey (UK), LinkedGeoData and GeoLinkedData? Barry On 08.09.2011 15:38, M. Scott Marshall wrote: It seems that dbpedia is a de facto source of URIs for geographical place names. I would expect to find a more specialized source. I think that I saw one mentioned

Re: Facebook Linked Data

2011-09-26 Thread Barry Norton
Great if an HTTP request for /561666514# 303ed to this document, but /561666514# is not a URI Barry On 26.09.2011 16:05, Alvaro Graves wrote: Hi Sebastian, AFAIK it's not a bug, but a feature :). This is done to comply with the httpRange-14 issue (i.e., you can't retrieve a person

Re: URIs for languages

2012-02-16 Thread Barry Norton
http://www.lingvoj.org/lang/grc Barry On 16/02/2012 16:15, Jordanous, Anna wrote: Hi LOD list, I am looking for URIs to use to represent particular languages (primarily Ancient Greek, Arabic, English and Spanish). This is to represent what language a document is written in, in an RDF

Re: Metadata about single triples

2012-02-22 Thread Barry Norton
On 22/02/2012 17:21, Bob Ferris wrote: [...] Named Graphs unnecessary fragment complex descriptions into (very) small piece due to their provenance descriptions*. So when you would like to query this complex description at once you may have to include many Named Graphs. This makes the SPARQL

Re: Metadata about single triples

2012-02-22 Thread Barry Norton
On 22/02/2012 18:18, Kingsley Idehen wrote: On 2/22/12 12:30 PM, Barry Norton wrote: On 22/02/2012 17:21, Bob Ferris wrote: [...] Named Graphs unnecessary fragment complex descriptions into (very) small piece due to their provenance descriptions*. So when you would like to query this complex

Re: From Open Database Connectivity to Open Data Connectivity

2012-03-30 Thread Barry Norton
Kingsley, I like this line of argument. When I try to imagine myself back in 1995 discovering ODBC (versus 4GL's against specific, if SQLable, databases), I think I could have grokked a lot of the Linked Data arguments from this comparison. I like specifically this 'superkeys' bit. What I

Re: From Open Database Connectivity to Open Data Connectivity

2012-03-30 Thread Barry Norton
On 30/03/2012 22:37, Kingsley Idehen wrote: On 3/30/12 5:08 PM, Barry Norton wrote: I'd like to see something like saves you from having to re-invent keys. Linked Data does just that. Precisely. But I wouldn't (with my old ODBC developer hat on) have got it from your text. (I understand

Re: From Open Database Connectivity to Open Data Connectivity

2012-03-30 Thread Barry Norton
On 30/03/2012 22:59, Kingsley Idehen wrote: Also true. In this context that could be a lot more comprehensible and relevant (not putting down URIBurner and similar services). But note, the sponger cartridges are just drivers for turning basic Web resources into linked data i.e., making any

Re: Introducing the Knowledge Graph: things, not strings

2012-05-17 Thread Barry Norton
On 16/05/2012 23:55, Bernard Vatant wrote: Kingsley says they have Freebase, yes but Freebase stores only 22 million entities according to their own stats, which makes less than 5% of the overall figure, since Google claims 500 million nodes in the Knowledge Graph, and growing. So I guess

Re: best practice RDF in HTML

2012-06-12 Thread Barry Norton
Take a look at: http://www.ebusiness-unibw.org/wiki/RDFaAuthoring#RDFa_in_Snippet_Style Barry On 12/06/2012 16:52, Keith Alexander wrote: If it should work with existing parsers, if you have to embed it in the page, and you don't want it to be seen, either use RDFa in the head or put RDFa

Re: Can we create better links by playing games?

2012-06-20 Thread Barry Norton
On 20/06/2012 16:55, Kingsley Idehen wrote: On 6/20/12 11:52 AM, Melvin Carvalho wrote: If you get the high score it should be part of linked data to your identity (eg like a badge). This makes the game 100 times more worthwhile to play! Yes! Your WebID should be your Identity emblem /

Re: Can we create better links by playing games?

2012-06-20 Thread Barry Norton
How do you encode provenance, Hugh? I don't see any in the Web UI. Barry On 20/06/2012 17:03, Hugh Glaser wrote: (Sorry to repeat myself :-) ) If you want a way of collecting and publishing coref data (or indeed any pair data), then I would be happy to provide a

Re: Reuse

2012-06-20 Thread Barry Norton
: On 20/06/2012 18:58, Barry Norton wrote: Does the fact that Web users now need to mark up their pages with *og:description*, *schema:description* /and/ *twitter:description* not make anyone in those communities think that maybe /this/ one had a point in the first place? And that maybe

Re: Reuse

2012-06-21 Thread Barry Norton
Sorry to keep being negative (about the light semantics side of things here), but it's /not /a competition. If you want Facebook integration, you have to use the og: properties. If you want Twitter integration, you have to use the twitter: properties (as well). (Presumably) if you want

Re: Reuse

2012-06-21 Thread Barry Norton
On 21/06/2012 10:53, Juan Sequeda wrote: Problem: I'm a webmaster and I want to integrate with facebook, twitter, search engines. That means that I have to add all these tags and duplicate my data to keep all of these services happy. I don't want to do that. But I do want to have integration

Re: Reuse

2012-06-21 Thread Barry Norton
On 21/06/2012 11:09, Juan Sequeda wrote: On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 11:58 AM, Barry Norton barry.nor...@ontotext.com mailto:barry.nor...@ontotext.com wrote: It is rather funny though - if we're not going to (directly) get the (open) graph that we want, we'll use our technology to let any

Re: The possible dangers of linked open data?

2012-06-26 Thread Barry Norton
Doesn't have anything to do with the means of access control, does it? These are people who, given the option to secure their updates, have chosen to disregard it and post them publicly. Barry On 26/06/2012 14:57, Kingsley Idehen wrote: On 6/26/12 9:49 AM, Melvin Carvalho wrote:

Re: Wanted : PURL approval

2012-07-02 Thread Barry Norton
It's not uniformly slower - I had a request in recent weeks granted far faster than a few years ago... Barry On 02/07/2012 13:40, David Wood wrote: Hi Pierre-Yves, purl.org http://purl.org is operated by OCLC, who seem to have been going through a reorganization recently. They certainly

Re: The Olympics in Linked Data (Sort of)

2012-07-28 Thread Barry Norton
How is this linked? For data I found only: http://semanticommunity.info/@api/deki/files/18739/Guardian.xlsx And, interested in medals, I found only aggregate medals data indexed by geographical labels (within a geo-political taxonomy), not shared identifiers. Barry On 28/07/2012 02:21,

EUCLID Project - free webinar, training session at SemTech, feedback welcomed

2012-09-13 Thread Barry Norton
With the usual apologies for cross-posting, we would like to introduce the EUCLID project (http://euclid-project.eu/). This project, funded by the European Commission, is established to develop an educational curriculum, and learning materials (webinars, online assignments and a developing

Re: Expensive links in Linked Data

2012-09-28 Thread Barry Norton
Why introduce a non-canonical NIR identifier and yet another sameAs link? There's no need to include a complete description when you resolve the identifier, a seeAlso IR link would suffice (wouldn't it?) Barry - Reply message - From: Heiko Paulheim paulh...@ke.tu-darmstadt.de Date:

Re: Expensive links in Linked Data

2012-09-28 Thread Barry Norton
F-P, there's a bunch of work on describing expected computed triples in a Linked Data context; see Linked Open Services, Linked Data Services, RESTdesc, etc. Barry - Reply message - From: SERVANT Francois-Paul francois-paul.serv...@renault.com Date: Fri, Sep 28, 2012 15:54 Subject:

Re: Expensive links in Linked Data

2012-09-28 Thread Barry Norton
It's worth pointing out that there IS finally a W3C working group looking at these issues: http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/charter.html Barry - Reply message - From: SERVANT Francois-Paul francois-paul.serv...@renault.com Date: Fri, Sep 28, 2012 17:54 Subject: Expensive links in Linked Data

Re: Expensive links in Linked Data

2012-09-28 Thread Barry Norton
On 28/09/2012 18:29, Kingsley Idehen wrote: On 9/28/12 1:02 PM, Barry Norton wrote: It's worth pointing out that there IS finally a W3C working group looking at these issues: http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/charter.html I don't know about this group address the matter of scrollable cursors

Free EUCLID Linked Data Webinar

2012-10-01 Thread Barry Norton
With apologies for cross-posting, herewith a reminder that today at 13h00 BST / 14h00 CEST / 15h00 EEST (12h00 GMT) there will be a free webinar from the EUCLID Project: http://stadium.open.ac.uk/2056 If you watch live please feel free to send questions on the material via twitter

Re: rNews RDFa in BBC News

2013-01-23 Thread Barry Norton
Jeremy, are you not using HTTP URIs with UUIDs as the local part, as in BBC Sports, Music, etc.? Barry On 23/01/13 08:53, Gregg Kellogg wrote: On Jan 23, 2013, at 9:27 AM, Jeremy Tarling jeremy.tarl...@bbc.co.uk wrote: Hello all I am working with BBC News on implementing some RDFa in

Re: rNews RDFa in BBC News

2013-01-23 Thread Barry Norton
On 23/01/13 08:27, Jeremy Tarling wrote: Separately we will publish the BBC GUIDs we have created for person/place/organisations with sameAs links towikidata/freebase/dbpedia. What does separately mean? I love, for instance, the movement of RDFa into iPlayer, e.g.:

Re: rNews RDFa in BBC News

2013-01-23 Thread Barry Norton
But that's another constructed URI. If I'm looking at iPlayer I might as well construct the MB URI directly as construct a URIBurner one. Barry On 23/01/13 20:17, Kingsley Idehen wrote: On 1/23/13 2:44 PM, Barry Norton wrote: I love, for instance, the movement of RDFa into iPlayer, e.g

DBpedia Querys [Re: ]

2013-02-12 Thread Barry Norton
Sureth, perhaps you're hitting query time-out or hard-coded limits. Have you considered loading DBpedia yourself, rather than using the public endpoint. Incidentally, your query can be rewritten in SPARQL 1.1 as CONSTRUCT WHERE {?film a http://dbpedia.org/ontology/Film } If you'd like to

Re: How can I express containment/composition?

2013-02-21 Thread Barry Norton
I agree that one should expect (some) geographical containment(s) to represent general partonomy; I guess geonames doesn't because there is no canonical property for partonomy. E.g., Geonames has: :parentFeature a owl:ObjectProperty, owl:TransitiveProperty;

Re: How can I express containment/composition?

2013-02-21 Thread Barry Norton
15:31, Bernard Vatant wrote: Hi all (with my Geonames ontology editor helmet on) 2013/2/21 Barry Norton barry.nor...@ontotext.com mailto:barry.nor...@ontotext.com I agree that one should expect (some) geographical containment(s) to represent general partonomy; I guess geonames doesn't

Re: question about an example query for LinkedLifeData

2013-02-24 Thread Barry Norton
Bonnie, I don't know this dataset very well myself, but I've forwarded your question to my colleagues who manage this. I hope we can help you out with your query in the morning. Regards, Barry On 24/02/13 21:30, Bonnie MacKellar wrote: Hi, I have a question about one of the example

Re: loading multiple .rdf files into a local virtuoso server

2013-03-12 Thread Barry Norton
Such questions really belong on the Virtuoso list, but don't most triplestores support the SPARQL Graph Store Protocol by now? Most of my (bash) load scripts look like this: for file in *; do curl -H Content-Type:text/turtle -T $file

Re: loading multiple .rdf files into a local virtuoso server

2013-03-12 Thread Barry Norton
On 12/03/13 21:49, Kingsley Idehen wrote: On 3/12/13 4:53 PM, Barry Norton wrote: Such questions really belong on the Virtuoso list, but don't most triplestores support the SPARQL Graph Store Protocol by now? Yes, but when you've got a massive collection of RDF files you still need to bulk

Re: loading multiple .rdf files into a local virtuoso server

2013-03-12 Thread Barry Norton
://dbpedia.org Cheers, Barry On 12/03/13 22:33, Barry Norton wrote: On 12/03/13 21:49, Kingsley Idehen wrote: On 3/12/13 4:53 PM, Barry Norton wrote: Such questions really belong on the Virtuoso list, but don't most triplestores support the SPARQL Graph Store Protocol by now? Yes, but when you've

Re: Important Change to HTTP semantics re. hashless URIs

2013-03-24 Thread Barry Norton
On 24/03/13 17:52, Richard Cyganiak wrote: On 24 Mar 2013, at 17:39, Kingsley Idehen kide...@openlinksw.com wrote: Thus, if a client de-references the URI http://dbpedia.org/resource/Barack_Obama and it gets a 200 OK from the server combined with http://dbpedia.org/page/Barack_Obama in the

Re: Important Change to HTTP semantics re. hashless URIs

2013-03-24 Thread Barry Norton
On 24/03/13 18:23, Kingsley Idehen wrote: On 3/24/13 1:59 PM, Barry Norton wrote: On 24/03/13 17:52, Richard Cyganiak wrote: On 24 Mar 2013, at 17:39, Kingsley Idehen kide...@openlinksw.com wrote: Thus, if a client de-references the URI http://dbpedia.org/resource/Barack_Obama and it gets

Re: Important Change to HTTP semantics re. hashless URIs

2013-03-24 Thread Barry Norton
On 24/03/13 18:42, Kingsley Idehen wrote: We need more options to solve this kind of politically-elastic problem. Right, so you're saying there are motivating applications for this solution where existing approaches wouldn't work? Can you specify them clearly? Barry

Re: Visualizing Linked Data - did we miss anything?

2013-03-28 Thread Barry Norton
Thanks, Alvaro. In fact EUCLID uses the music domain throughout and there are several MusicBrainz/Beatles examples in Chapter 2, as can be seen here (that's me karate-chopping the air): https://vimeo.com/61618438 and in the slides here:

Re: Visualizing Linked Data - did we miss anything?

2013-03-29 Thread Barry Norton
Sebastian, Bernadette, Kingsley, Just to note (lest the conversation slip too far from the original request) that application-building, APIs, frameworks etc. are the subject of a later EUCLID chapter (5) on which we will also consult. We look forward to following up on some of these points

Re: Visualizing Linked Data - did we miss anything?

2013-03-29 Thread Barry Norton
and executed on GATE Cloud, which will also be the basis of an exercise for EUCLID (based on GATE Developer). Barry On 29/03/13 10:56, Kingsley Idehen wrote: On 3/29/13 5:17 AM, Barry Norton wrote: Sebastian, Bernadette, Kingsley, Just to note (lest the conversation slip too far from

Re: Visualizing Linked Data - did we miss anything?

2013-03-29 Thread Barry Norton
Kingsley, do you have a particular form in mind? I've suggested to Maria a simple SKOS taxonomy reflecting the organisation of tools in the curriculum, tagging DoaP descriptions (retrieved or reconstructed). I'm particularly interested in EUCLID as we're committed to monitoring the

Re: Visualizing Linked Data - did we miss anything?

2013-03-29 Thread Barry Norton
talk. Barry On 29/03/13 14:12, Kingsley Idehen wrote: On 3/29/13 9:59 AM, Barry Norton wrote: Kingsley, do you have a particular form in mind? You mean an ontology for product descriptions for the Turtle doc? If that's the question, then not specifically, because I am actually trying

Re: Visualizing Linked Data - did we miss anything?

2013-03-29 Thread Barry Norton
We are aware the project needs to catch up having produced only 150M downloadable triples, with a public SPARQL endpoint, so far... Barry On 29/03/13 15:01, Kingsley Idehen wrote: On 3/29/13 10:53 AM, Barry Norton wrote: You're welcome to read the public project description, in which

Re: Visualizing Linked Data - did we miss anything?

2013-03-29 Thread Barry Norton
curriculum topics, is something that we're beginning now. Rest assured that a taxonomy and then the monitoring data will be available by June at the latest. Regards, Barry On 29/03/13 15:50, Kingsley Idehen wrote: On 3/29/13 11:45 AM, Barry Norton wrote: We are aware the project needs to catch up

Re: Visualizing Linked Data - did we miss anything?

2013-03-29 Thread Barry Norton
On 29/03/13 16:34, Kingsley Idehen wrote: On 3/29/13 12:16 PM, Barry Norton wrote: With a SPARQL endpoint at: http://euclid.sti2.org:9080/repositories/musicbrainz Human-queryable at: http://euclid.sti2.org/Exercises/Exercise2/sparql (Both may be authenticated, for use in study against

Re: Why is it bad practice to consume Linked Data and publish opaque HTML pages?

2013-03-30 Thread Barry Norton
Glad to say that a large national broadcaster is moving towards good practice on this score. Barry On 30/03/13 14:35, Kingsley Idehen wrote: All, Citing sources is useful for many reasons: (a) it shows that it isn't a half-baked idea I just pulled out of thin air, (b) it provides a

Re: uri for uri

2013-04-01 Thread Barry Norton
That would save a LOT of typing. I haven't used ftp:// in years, maybe we could just go for : and assume it's HTTP? Barry On 01/04/2013 14:57, Hugh Glaser wrote: On 1 Apr 2013, at 14:38, Tim Berners-Lee ti...@w3.org wrote: Well, the colon should be. No reason why the / should be in

Re: uri for uri

2013-04-01 Thread Barry Norton
over-engineered) Barry On 01/04/2013 15:32, Yves Raimond wrote: In which case we can probably get rid of the ':' too? On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 3:00 PM, Barry Norton barry.nor...@ontotext.com wrote: That would save a LOT of typing. I haven't used ftp:// in years, maybe we could just go

Re: DBpedia+Spotlight accepted @ Google Summer of Code 2013

2013-04-11 Thread Barry Norton
While there are privacy concerns, which one hopes a strong government will keep in check, why was your first criticism 'multi billion dollar'? I welcome the interest in the combination of graph knowledge with text analysis by big, successful companies - it vindicates the effort my friends

Re: Restpark - Minimal RESTful API for querying RDF triples

2013-04-16 Thread Barry Norton
Agreed, this is a non-RESTful HTTP API to execute triple patterns. Furthermore, I'd say that the (rough) relational equivalent would be an API that lets you retrieve values from a nominated column where rows from a single table match a stated (singleton) primary key, or primary key values

Re: Restpark - Minimal RESTful API for querying RDF triples

2013-04-16 Thread Barry Norton
Apologies if Hugh's had an answer (I'm sitting on a train with patchy WiFi), but if not let me explain my speculation that the s/p/o parameters are all optional and, if missing, are 'match all' (hence my assertion about triple patterns). Am I on the right page there? - Reply message -

Re: SPARQL, philosophy n'stuff..

2013-04-18 Thread Barry Norton
REST is simpler than SPARQL I have difficulty taking you seriously: SPARQL Graph Store Protocol is a great deal simpler and more RESTful than what you propose and the difference between that and something actually RESTful is complicated. Sorry, I have every sympathy for what Hugh said, but

Re: SPARQL, philosophy n'stuff..

2013-04-18 Thread Barry Norton
On 18/04/2013 15:35, Jürgen Jakobitsch SWC wrote: I think the problem is that many people (especially web developers) have not yet realized that SPARQL *IS* already a REST API May I rephrase? SPARQL is already at least as close to a subset of REST principles as 90% of what the Web calls

Re: Restpark - Minimal RESTful API for querying RDF triples

2013-04-18 Thread Barry Norton
This parameterised pre-stored (and approved) query idea has come up a few times. My favourite name for it is Talis' 'SPARQL Stored Procedure' (though it's by far from a perfect analogy, it's catchy). The version I pushed in 'Linked Open Services' research, and which the BBC use in

Re: SPARQL, philosophy n'stuff..

2013-04-22 Thread Barry Norton
I'm sorry, but you seem to have misunderstood the use of a graph URI parameter in indirect graph addressing for GSP. I wish all GSP actions addressed graphs directly, Queries were all GETs, and that Updates were all PATCH documents, but a degree of pragmatism has been applied. Barry On

Re: SPARQL, philosophy n'stuff..

2013-04-22 Thread Barry Norton
Sure. But I think it's a little unfair to the specification when, unlike SPARQL-by-GET there is no requirement for a graph or any other constructed parameter. Barry On 22/04/13 09:54, Leigh Dodds wrote: Hi Barry, On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 9:17 AM, Barry Norton barry.nor...@ontotext.com

Re: Outdated linkeddata.org website

2013-05-01 Thread Barry Norton
If we want to establish hierarchy shouldn't we have: linkeddata.semanticweb.org and open.linkeddata.semanticweb.org (OK, I'm being flippant, but making linkeddata.org an entry point for purely large open interlinked datasets, under the Cloud criteria, is a bit of a misnaming anyway) Barry

EUCLID Thanks, Events and Public Webinar

2013-05-14 Thread Barry Norton
: @euclid_project. A reminder of the 10th June public webinar on Module 4, including feedback received so far from this community, will be forthcoming. Regards, Barry Norton

Re: Summarising dbpedia country coverage

2013-05-15 Thread Barry Norton
MusicBrainz does - we've some nice visualisations in the EUCLID project that will be in the next webinar. Barry - Reply message - From: Leigh Dodds le...@ldodds.com To: public-lod community public-lod@w3.org Subject: Summarising dbpedia country coverage Date: Wed, May 15, 2013 12:45 PM

Re: Representing NULL in RDF

2013-06-03 Thread Barry Norton
On 03/06/13 15:31, Robert Sanderson wrote: Our solution was to use rdf:nil, but we would be happy to change that if there is a more appropriate approach. That was my suggested solution last time this came up on list. It does make rdf:nil a member of the property's range though, which

Re: The need for RDF in Linked Data

2013-06-17 Thread Barry Norton
Agreed. It always amuses me to hear how Web/REST is not coupled to HTTP. Applying for a Web job without HTML/HTTP skills is like applying for a Linked Data job without RDF/HTTP. The rest might be interesting to some, but is of zero practical consequence. Barry On 17/06/13 13:34, Luca

Linked Data in my Head

2013-06-17 Thread Barry Norton
Now that we've established, whatever TimBL's Note says, that Linked Data doesn't require SPARQL, RDF or HTTP it's time we talked about the elephant in the room: URIs. A thought experiment (literally): in my brain is a lot of knowledge - 'metadata' if you will - connected up in a graph. I

Re: Linked Data in my Head

2013-06-17 Thread Barry Norton
On a serious note, the day this list starts responding to a request I want to do Linked Data, am I using HTTP correctly? like the REST community 'FOOLISH MORTAL, REST [/LINKED DATA] IS NOT TIED TO HTTP' is the day I lose interest. Barry On 17/06/13 14:12, Barry Norton wrote: Now

Re: The need for RDF in Linked Data

2013-06-17 Thread Barry Norton
You know, the whole thing reminds me of the SOAP documents listing SMTP as an alternative transport. And my prediction is that the whole discussion will be as fruitless. Wake me up when the note tying Linked Data to RDF over HTTP becomes anything other than best practice... sorry, scratch

Monitoring subscribers on the list

2013-06-18 Thread Barry Norton
Does anyone know if the number of subscribers on the list can be monitored? I have a limited degree of monitoring, for the EUCLID project, through the RSS feed and Web scraping, but I'm struggling to measure: 1) what fraction of subscribers the vocal minority of posters are; 2) how

Re: 返: Proof: Linked Data does not require RDF

2013-06-19 Thread Barry Norton
On 19/06/2013 13:06, Kingsley Idehen wrote: The answers matter because the collective goal is getting more end-users and developers on board, without being overbearing and draconian. Basically, end-users and developers fall into the following camps: 1. completely new to all the technical

Re: RDF, Linked Data etc : please ping me when it's over ...

2013-06-19 Thread Barry Norton
One thing that we're doing with EUCLID is to grab the RSS feed for the W3C lists and tag them with a SKOS version of the topics in our curriculum and expose this as SPARQL. Barry On 19/06/2013 16:41, ProjectParadigm-ICT-Program wrote: Since you brought up the issue of bandwidth and not

Re: RDF, Linked Data etc : please ping me when it's over ...

2013-06-19 Thread Barry Norton
Will be, and yes. (Incidentally, they're SIOC-represented, but that's probably obvious). Bit cagey as we've the project review this week, but more news will be forthcoming. Barry On 19/06/2013 17:23, Kingsley Idehen wrote: On 6/19/13 11:47 AM, Barry Norton wrote: One thing that we're

Re: Linked Data discussions require better communication

2013-06-22 Thread Barry Norton
Trump it? That IS RDF, Kingsley! You keep using the word 'denote', but I sometimes wonder whether you understand what a mathematical denotation is... I really think these threads need to end. Cheers, Barry - Reply message - From: Kingsley Idehen kide...@openlinksw.com To:

Re: The Great Public Linked Data Use Case Register for Non-Technical End User Applications

2013-06-23 Thread Barry Norton
Dominic, I think this is a great idea - the W3C lists suffer both from senescence and fatigue (i.e., they're out-of-date and seem not to get refreshed with new examples). May I be presumptuous enough to offer to help/steal from the EUCLID project, where we're already compiling such a list

Re: The Great Public Linked Data Use Case Register for Non-Technical End User Applications

2013-06-23 Thread Barry Norton
Not published yet - exemplar applications go in EUCLID's Module 5, which we'll consult the list on, as we did for Modules 3 and 4. We'll also include it in an endpoint for the SKOS/schema.org version of the syllabus, which I'm now honour-bound to publicly release now our project review's

Re: The Great Public Linked Data Use Case Register for Non-Technical End User Applications

2013-06-23 Thread Barry Norton
On 23/06/13 22:46, Kingsley Idehen wrote: Please, I told you before, and I will tell you again don't try to teach parents how to make babies! Kingsley, your conduct on this list is beyond a joke. I would ask you to describe how one could discover an application with no formal

Re: The Great Public Linked Data Use Case Register for Non-Technical End User Applications

2013-06-23 Thread Barry Norton
On 24/06/13 01:51, Melvin Carvalho wrote: Barry, I'd ask you to reread your response above. Do you think it's a good avert for this list? No, I don't. Every such public call-out in the past has made me flinch for our public image. I'm sorry that I've now got to this point too. I'd like

Re: YASGUI: Web-based SPARQL client with bells ‘n wistles

2013-07-06 Thread Barry Norton
Bernard, does LOV keep a cache of properties and classes? I'd really like to see resource auto-completion in Web-based tools like YASGUI, but a cache is clearly needed for the to be feasible. Barry On 05/07/13 15:43, María Poveda wrote: Hello Laurens, thanks for sharing such an

Re: YASGUI: Web-based SPARQL client with bells ‘n wistles

2013-07-06 Thread Barry Norton
could be used for autocomplete in YASGUI. Cheers, Andreas. On 06/07/13 12:27, Barry Norton wrote: Bernard, does LOV keep a cache of properties and classes? I'd really like to see resource auto-completion in Web-based tools like YASGUI, but a cache is clearly needed for the to be feasible

Re: YASGUI: Web-based SPARQL client with bells ‘n wistles

2013-07-06 Thread Barry Norton
Ah wait, is this just classes and properties across the whole BTC set though? Can I use this to say I'm typing ':example a foaf:Per...' and get Person as the top class within the foaf namespace? Barry On 06/07/13 14:27, Barry Norton wrote: Nice one, Andreas, cheers. I was just

Re: YASGUI: Web-based SPARQL client with bells ‘n wistles

2013-07-06 Thread Barry Norton
I think it would be a great feature, and a nice combination with BTC occurrence-based ranking (which I guess is your USP?) Barry On 06/07/13 17:34, Andreas Harth wrote: Hi, On 06/07/13 15:39, Barry Norton wrote: Ah wait, is this just classes and properties across the whole BTC set though

Licensing advice

2013-07-12 Thread Barry Norton
I'd like to publicly release R2RML mappings for the MusicBrainz dataset. DBpedia has shown interest in including the subset that can be used to create a linkset. Any idea what (kind of) licence could/should apply? (To be clear, to the mappings, as opposed to the dataset) I'd also like to

Re: Licensing advice

2013-07-12 Thread Barry Norton
14:20, Barry Norton wrote: I'd like to publicly release R2RML mappings for the MusicBrainz dataset. DBpedia has shown interest in including the subset that can be used to create a linkset. Any idea what (kind of) licence could/should apply? (To be clear, to the mappings, as opposed

Re: Licensing advice

2013-07-12 Thread Barry Norton
/2013 14:20, Barry Norton escribió: I'd like to publicly release R2RML mappings for the MusicBrainz dataset. DBpedia has shown interest in including the subset that can be used to create a linkset. Any idea what (kind of) licence could/should apply? (To be clear, to the mappings, as opposed

Re: Licensing advice

2013-07-12 Thread Barry Norton
On 12/07/13 18:08, Barry Norton wrote: On 12/07/13 18:02, Víctor Rodríguez Doncel wrote: [...] So, if you have created a dataset, this time in RDF, containing the user ratings (supplementary data) in MusicBrainz, you have little choice: CC-BY-NC-SA. Yet DBpedia requires CC-BY-SA, so

Re: Licensing advice

2013-07-12 Thread Barry Norton
, Barry Norton wrote: I'd like to publicly release R2RML mappings for the MusicBrainz dataset. DBpedia has shown interest in including the subset that can be used to create a linkset. Any idea what (kind of) licence could/should apply? (To be clear, to the mappings, as opposed to the dataset

Re: Hosting Linked Data using PURL.org

2013-07-16 Thread Barry Norton
On 16/07/2013 18:12, David Wood wrote: The source code used by OCLC to operate purl.org http://purl.org is [...] rapidly being deprecated as PURL support enters the Callimachus Project Could you explain this further? Deprecated by whom? Barry

Re: Hosting Linked Data using PURL.org

2013-07-16 Thread Barry Norton
On 16/07/2013 19:40, David Wood wrote: Hi Barry, On Jul 16, 2013, at 13:29, Barry Norton barry.nor...@ontotext.com mailto:barry.nor...@ontotext.com wrote: On 16/07/2013 18:12, David Wood wrote: The source code used by OCLC to operate purl.org http://purl.org/ is [...] rapidly being

Re: Licensing advice

2013-07-25 Thread Barry Norton
CC0 which is ok), use Data Licenses (for example ODC), which include in their text a reference to the European database law. Regards, Víctor El 12/07/2013 21:30, Barry Norton escribió: Incidentally, to clarify, I meant to ask a more fundamental question about mappings

Re: YASGUI: Web-based SPARQL client with bells ‘n wistles

2013-08-20 Thread Barry Norton
stored. Hope that helps Bernard From: Barry Norton barry.nor...@ontotext.com mailto:barry.nor...@ontotext.com?Subject=Re%3A%20YASGUI%3A%20Web-based%20SPARQL%20client%20with%20bells%20%FFn%20wistlesIn-Reply-To=%3C51D7F122.5060407%40ontotext.com%3EReferences=%3C51D7F122.5060407%40ontotext.com%3E

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