Re: imdb as linked open data?

2008-04-04 Thread Dan Brickley
Tom Heath wrote: Hi Chris, all, -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Sizemore Sent: 04 April 2008 13:38 To: public-lod@w3.org Cc: Michael Smethurst; Silver Oliver; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: imdb as linked open data? all--

Re: How do you deprecate URIs? Re: OWL-DL and linked data

2008-07-09 Thread Dan Brickley
Richard Cyganiak wrote: On 9 Jul 2008, at 00:11, Bijan Parsia wrote: [big snip] Complaining that the Big Nasty People Who Know What They're Talking About are raining on your sameAs parade isn't constructive. Ah Bijan. How about *you* grow up, flameboy? (Please soften your language, both of

Re: RDFa + RDF/XML Considered Harmful? (was RE: Ordnance Survey data as Linked Data)

2008-07-14 Thread Dan Brickley
Hi folks (sorry for not chiming in on LOD list before btw; I tried to join sometime back but it got wedged, but I think that was the old MIT-hosted list anyways) Richard Cyganiak wrote: I don't think this is a problem. For provenance purposes, whatever works for RDF/XML documents will

Re: RDFa + RDF/XML Considered Harmful? (was RE: Ordnance Survey data as Linked Data)

2008-07-14 Thread Dan Brickley
Richard Cyganiak wrote: Hi Mark, On 14 Jul 2008, at 10:22, Mark Birbeck wrote: I would say that RDFa has made the situation an order of magnitude _less_ complicated, since authors and developers now have an easier way to publish metadata; Well, RDFa has made life simpler for those

Re: freebase parallax: user interface for browsing graphs of data

2008-08-22 Thread Dan Brickley
David Huynh wrote: [snip] [many thanks for opensourcing btw!!] Maybe there's a chance to collaborate here, what do you think? I'm also not aware of any upcoming semweb UI workshops. WWW2009 might be a good place... We can carry on this conversation off the list. Please don't dissapear

Re: Drilling into the LOD Cloud

2008-09-28 Thread Dan Brickley
Kingsley Idehen wrote: Ed Summers wrote: On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 1:28 PM, Giovanni Tummarello [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I really support your idea for a lod cloud that's actually useful to write queries, i promise we'll do the best from sindice to deliver one such a thing. That

[Fwd: [mySociety:public] An actually useful mash-up]

2008-10-17 Thread Dan Brickley
This is with the plain HTML tables on Wikipedia but should be fun for DBPedia folks too... Dan Original Message Subject: [mySociety:public] An actually useful mash-up Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 15:17:20 +0100 From: Francis Irving [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: mySociety:Public

Re: DBpedia 3.2 release, including DBpedia Ontology and RDF links to Freebase

2008-11-17 Thread Dan Brickley
Azamat wrote: Monday, November 17, 2008 2:11 PM, Chris Bizer wrote: 'We are happy to announce the release of DBpedia version 3.2. ... More information about the ontology is found at: http://wiki.dbpedia.org/Ontology' While opening, we see the following types of Resource, seemingly Entity

Re: AW: DBpedia 3.2 release, including DBpedia Ontology and RDF links to Freebase

2008-11-19 Thread Dan Brickley
Chris Bizer wrote: I think that the basic idea of the Semantic Web is that you reuse existing terms or at least provide mappings from your terms to existing ones. I'd say a rather than the; there are various key themes of the SW - Term-reuse sure; but also common approaches to

Re: Vocabulary browser requested

2008-12-01 Thread Dan Brickley
Andreas Langegger wrote: Hi, does anybody know of a working and feasible vocabulary browser? I'm thinking of some neat (preferably web-based) GUI which allows to load (autom. via some API in the back or manually by the user) several vocabularies which are possibly interlinked either

Re: Minting URIs is bad?

2009-02-01 Thread Dan Brickley
Sergio: do we want to create this (artificial) URIs? Richard: You don't state any reasons against using URIs, you just say that you prefer not to use them. So please clarify: What do you gain by not introducing your own URI? There are a few considerations... One reason to be avoid

Re: [ANN] DBpedia Lookup

2009-02-12 Thread Dan Brickley
On 12/2/09 13:45, Georgi Kobilarov wrote: Hi Matthias, It works with HTTP GET as well, see the web-service descriptions at [1] and [2] (scroll down a bit). [1] http://lookup.dbpedia.org/api/search.asmx?op=KeywordSearch [2] http://lookup.dbpedia.org/api/search.asmx?op=PrefixSearch Cheers,

Re: MusicBrainzRe: : Where is the linkage?

2009-02-17 Thread Dan Brickley
+cc: Robert, Yves On 17/2/09 21:52, Simon Reinhardt wrote: Kingsley Idehen wrote: We have a new Musicbrainz dump, and it will be integrated into DBpedia (I think Georgi is working on this). There will soon be a publicdump available to others in the coming days. Did you consider working

Re: MusicBrainzRe: : Where is the linkage?

2009-02-17 Thread Dan Brickley
On 17/2/09 23:41, Yves Raimond wrote: Hello! On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 9:02 PM, Dan Brickleydan...@danbri.org wrote: +cc: Robert, Yves On 17/2/09 21:52, Simon Reinhardt wrote: Kingsley Idehen wrote: We have a new Musicbrainz dump, and it will be integrated into DBpedia (I think Georgi is

Re: owl:sameAs links from OpenCyc to WordNet

2009-02-23 Thread Dan Brickley
On 23/2/09 18:53, David Baxter wrote: Hi all, We at Cycorp have been publishing owl:sameAs links from our OpenCyc concepts to WordNet synsets, e.g. http://sw.opencyc.org/2008/06/10/concept/en/India owl:sameAs http://www.w3.org/2006/03/wn/wn20/instances/synset-India-noun-1 We've done so with

Re: owl:sameAs links from OpenCyc to WordNet

2009-02-23 Thread Dan Brickley
On 23/2/09 20:04, Danny Ayers wrote: 2009/2/23 Matthias Samwaldsamw...@gmx.at: In contrast, I would still prefer an established, generic property to something that needs to be invented anew. rdfs:seeAlso is established (which also means that people are more likely to re-use it then

Re: owl:sameAs links from OpenCyc to WordNet

2009-02-23 Thread Dan Brickley
On 23/2/09 20:32, Frederick Giasson wrote: Hi Dan, Certainly a useful concept to have name(s) for, ... but I think not quite what is needed to link these specific datasets. The W3C wordnet data is a collection of descriptions of linguistic concepts. The OpenCyc things they're linked to are not

Re: owl:sameAs links from OpenCyc to WordNet

2009-02-23 Thread Dan Brickley
On 23/2/09 22:24, Mike Bergman wrote: David Baxter wrote: We at Cycorp have been publishing owl:sameAs links from our OpenCyc concepts to WordNet synsets, e.g. http://sw.opencyc.org/2008/06/10/concept/en/India owl:sameAs http://www.w3.org/2006/03/wn/wn20/instances/synset-India-noun-1 We've

Re: New LOD Cloud - Please send us links to missing data sources

2009-02-28 Thread Dan Brickley
On 28/2/09 21:49, Joshua Tauberer wrote: Not related to this thread, but this just in: The LOD cloud was just on a slide presented at http://transparencycamp.org for the future of http://www.recovery.gov, the website for tracking spending in the U.S.'s economic recovery package. Very thrilling

Re: New LOD Cloud - Please send us links to missing data sources

2009-02-28 Thread Dan Brickley
On 1/3/09 01:30, Giovanni Tummarello wrote: congrats and kudos to all those who've made this happen. I think the cloud diagrams are proving a very compelling visual for people who don't care about nerdy detail but understand the idea of interlinked datasets. Yes they're great

Re: Analyzing the success of LOD

2009-03-02 Thread Dan Brickley
On 2/3/09 15:23, Daniel Schwabe wrote: On 02/03/2009 10:55, Kingsley Idehen wrote: ... De-referencable URIs, Negotable Representation of Resource Descriptions, and other elements of the Linked Data Web's FORCE as are simply there to be tapped by current/next generation of innovators on the Web

Re: LOD Instance Update re. new Data Sets Loaded.

2009-03-06 Thread Dan Brickley
On 6/3/09 10:21, Yrjänä Rankka wrote: Georgi Kobilarov wrote: Hi Kingsley, DESCRIBE http://dbpedia.org/resource/London takes 3 minutes to execute on lod.openlinksw.com ... It took only a few seconds when I tried it. Takes time to warm up a pan of this size, as is the case with any DBMS. As

Re: OWL and LOD

2009-05-12 Thread Dan Brickley
On 12/5/09 12:14, Steve Harris wrote: On 12 May 2009, at 10:49, John Goodwin wrote: Hi, I was just curious how many OWL sceptics we have in the LOD community? Rightly or wrongly I get the impression there are a few? OWL hasn't historically been very practical over large datasets, but I have

Re: fw: Google starts supporting RDFa -- 'rich snippets'

2009-05-13 Thread Dan Brickley
On 13/5/09 15:23, Kingsley Idehen wrote: I desperately hope that you can see the Google is providing a huge opportunity to showcase Linked Data meme value. Again, so what -- if they don't use existing vocabularies? What matters is that they are using RDFa to produce structured data, and that is

Re: RDF: a suitable NLP KB representation (Was: Owning URIs (Was: Yet Another LOD cloud browser))

2009-05-20 Thread Dan Brickley
On 20/5/09 07:44, David Huynh wrote: Sherman Monroe wrote: That's when I was turned on to Frame Semantics, which I immediately praised, it is by far the most expressive and elegant knowledge representation framework for NL I have come across (although, it's been 3 or 4 years since I really

Re: URI lifecycle (Was: Owning URIs)

2009-05-22 Thread Dan Brickley
On 22/5/09 19:47, Pat Hayes wrote: Yes, that's a great topic for discussion. It is clear that semantic drift is a natural part of natural language: a word that meant one thing years ago may mean something quite different now. And the same is happening with URIs. My favorite example is

Re: URI lifecycle (Was: Owning URIs)

2009-05-25 Thread Dan Brickley
On 25/5/09 17:45, David Booth wrote: On Fri, 2009-05-22 at 20:49 +0200, Dan Brickley wrote: On 22/5/09 19:47, Pat Hayes wrote: David Booth wrote: Yes, that's a great topic for discussion. It is clear that semantic drift is a natural part of natural language: a word that meant one thing years

Re: numeric web search (Was: URLs instead of URNs)

2009-05-26 Thread Dan Brickley
On 26/5/09 14:45, Wolfgang Orthuber wrote: [...] Though different HTTP URIs always refer to different addresses Where do you get this from? Do you mean though different HTTP URIs are different URIs? http://example.com:80/foo and http://EXAMple.COM/foo ...both address (or fail to address)

Re: numeric web search (Was: URLs instead of URNs)

2009-05-26 Thread Dan Brickley
On 26/5/09 16:19, Wolfgang Orthuber wrote: Dan, can a http URI refer transiently or accidentally to some address? Which term do you suggest for something which permanently refers to a (unique, permanent) web address, and which differs if and only if the web address differs? I don't think

Re: Chronicling America and Linked Data pt. 2

2009-05-26 Thread Dan Brickley
On 26/5/09 17:44, Ed Summers wrote: I forgot to mention that if you are interested in reading more about the use of the Object Reuse and Exchange vocabulary (OAI-ORE) in linked data, and web based digital repositories you'll want to check out this recent paper from LDOW2009: H. Van de

Re: Owning URIs (Was: Yet Another LOD cloud browser)

2009-05-31 Thread Dan Brickley
On 30/5/09 15:50, Kingsley Idehen wrote: Danbri: have you had time to work on the generic faceted browsing spec we discussed a few weeks ago? Even a rough dump Wiki-style will do re. getting all interested parties engaged. Nothing written up yet, but am just back from a digital libraries

BobQL? Boxes of (related) boxes ...

2009-05-31 Thread Dan Brickley
(I changed subject line again, sorry but to avoid misleaing further :) OK, you goaded me into writing up what I was thinking about... On 31/5/09 21:09, Andreas Harth wrote: Hi, Dan Brickley wrote: Basic idea in a nutshell is that SPARQL is great for data access, but there may be additional

Re: ESWC2009: Linked Data gathering

2009-06-01 Thread Dan Brickley
On 1/6/09 17:14, Tom Heath wrote: Hi Dan, 2009/6/1 Dan Brickleydan...@danbri.org: On 1/6/09 10:48, Tom Heath wrote: Hi Dan, 2009/5/31 Dan Brickleydan...@danbri.org: On 31/5/09 10:40, Tom Heath wrote: Hi Michael, The proposed time (7pm on the 1st) clashes with the LarKC Reception; from a

[Fwd: Fwd: DataPortability Community Invited to Semantic Technologies Conference in San Jose, CA June 14-19th, Free and Discounted Options]

2009-06-03 Thread Dan Brickley
Excuse the 3-way crosspost, but I think it's quite important to strengthen the links between W3C Social Web, Semantic Web / linked data and data portability discussions. For those in or near San Jose, there's a Data Portability community meeting happening, with details below. This should be

Re: ANN: sameas.org

2009-06-04 Thread Dan Brickley
On 4/6/09 01:54, Richard Cyganiak wrote: Hugh, Ian, Great work -- simple, visually attractive, does what it says on the tin. A pleasure to use. Yup! :) I think it would be pretty cool to make it #this owl:sameAs U1, U2, U3, U4 . That way, I could add a nice triple to my FOAF file: #cygri

Re: ANN: sameas.org

2009-06-04 Thread Dan Brickley
On 4/6/09 10:45, Hugh Glaser wrote: Might it be possible to have the site offer URIs, and some commitment they'll probably be around for a few years (or somehow opensourced to collaborative maintainance if Southampton decide not to maintain it later?). No :-) Thanks for the clear answer :)

Re: Extracting RDF triples

2009-06-05 Thread Dan Brickley
On 5/6/09 10:16, Knud Hinnerk Möller wrote: Hi Luciano, a lot of RDF libraries will do this for you. I usually use the rapper tool [1], which comes with the Redland RDF API. Another option I find nice is cwm (which can do a lot of other things as well) [2]. Cheers, Knud [1]

Re: want a ping api?

2009-06-15 Thread Dan Brickley
On 15/6/09 08:41, Giovanni Tummarello wrote: We are currently processing from 500 to 5 pings per day in sindice. (this is excluding semantic sitemaps, and excluding crawler findings) We are now scaling using hadoop, so that each one is completely reassoned upon (closure of all the imported

Wikipedia relicensed: consequences for DBpedia and downstream?

2009-06-16 Thread Dan Brickley
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Licensing_update/Implementation [[ As per the licensing update vote result and subsequent Wikimedia Foundation Board resolution, any content on Wikimedia Foundation projects currently available under GFDL 1.2 with the possibility of upgrading to a later version

Re: Common Tag, FOAF and Dublin Core Re: Common Tag - semantic tagging convention

2009-06-18 Thread Dan Brickley
On 18/6/09 13:31, Bernard Vatant wrote: Rob, Danny (and Dan) ... why not use simply dc:creator and dc:date to this effect? Right. dc:date would seem a good choice, though I reckon foaf:maker might be a better option than dc:creator as the object is a resource (a foaf:Agent) rather than a

Re: Common Tag, FOAF and Dublin Core Re: Common Tag - semantic tagging convention

2009-06-18 Thread Dan Brickley
On 18/6/09 15:07, Thomas Baker wrote: On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 01:49:56PM +0200, Dan Brickley wrote: Well I actually meant dcterms:creator when I wrote dc:creator, sorry. So you can link your personal tags to your foaf profile, for example. And it's consistent even for tag:AutoTag, since

Re: http://ld2sd.deri.org/lod-ng-tutorial/

2009-06-22 Thread Dan Brickley
[snip] Yup, re owl:imports, I enthusiastically added it to the FOAF spec when some OWL WG insider suggested it was the right thing to use, and dutifully removed it when someone (I forget who in both cases - quite possibly same person!) a few years later told me it had fallen from fashion

Re: http://ld2sd.deri.org/lod-ng-tutorial/

2009-06-23 Thread Dan Brickley
On 22/6/09 23:16, Martin Hepp (UniBW) wrote: Yves Raimond wrote: Ontology modularization is a pretty difficult task, and people use various heuristics for deciding what to put in the subset being served for an element. There is no guarantee that the fragment you get contains everything that

Re: http://ld2sd.deri.org/lod-ng-tutorial/

2009-06-23 Thread Dan Brickley
On 23/6/09 09:33, Martin Hepp (UniBW) wrote: Hi Dan: I think Alan already gave examples this morning. An ontology can contain statements about the relationship between conceptual elements - classes, properties, individuals - that (1) influence the result to queries but (2) are not likely

Re: Visualization of domain and range

2009-06-26 Thread Dan Brickley
Interesting discussion! On 25/6/09 14:15, Simon Reinhardt wrote: Hi Bernhard Schandl wrote: [1] http://www.ifs.univie.ac.at/schandl/2009/06/domain+range_bad.png [2] http://www.ifs.univie.ac.at/schandl/2009/06/domain+range_better.png I like this. The former has several problems anyway: you

Re: .htaccess a major bottleneck to Semantic Web adoption / Was: Re: RDFa vs RDF/XML and content negotiation

2009-06-26 Thread Dan Brickley
On 26/6/09 10:51, Toby Inkster wrote: On Fri, 2009-06-26 at 09:35 +0200, Dan Brickley wrote: Does every major RDF toolkit have an integrated RDFa parser already? No - and even for those that do, it's often rather flaky. Seseme/Rio doesn't have one in its stable release, though I believe one

how do I report bad sameAs links? (dbpedia - Cyc)

2009-06-29 Thread Dan Brickley
http://sw.opencyc.org/2008/06/10/concept/Mx4rv8L0_JwpEbGdrcN5Y29ycA says it is owl:sameAs dbpedia:Spaced And DBpedia reports the same. They're both wrong! The DBpedia page is about a television situation comedy show; the Cyc page is about a freeware computer game. cheers, Dan

Re: how do I report bad sameAs links? (dbpedia - Cyc)

2009-06-30 Thread Dan Brickley
On 30/6/09 13:33, Kingsley Idehen wrote: Dan Brickley wrote: (I was reminded about the SW bug tracker after posting this; good idea) http://sw.opencyc.org/2008/06/10/concept/Mx4rv8L0_JwpEbGdrcN5Y29ycA says it is owl:sameAs dbpedia:Spaced And DBpedia reports the same. They're both wrong

Re: tutorial on Music and the Web of Data

2009-07-01 Thread Dan Brickley
On 1/7/09 17:51, Kingsley Idehen wrote: Linked Music Data or Linked Open Music Data, either provides a clear moniker for a music oriented Linked Data Space on the Web :-) It does rather suggest the music files are up there too. And I wouldn't complain if they were... :) Dan

[Fwd: 2nd CFP: ISWC'09 workshop on Ontology Matching (OM-2009)]

2009-07-08 Thread Dan Brickley
I don't normally forward conference CFPs, but it seems it would be useful to build some links with this community. Aw crap, can't believe I typed that. But you know what I mean... Dan Original Message Subject:2nd CFP: ISWC'09 workshop on Ontology Matching (OM-2009)

Re: Dons flame resistant (3 hours) interface about Linked Data URIs

2009-07-10 Thread Dan Brickley
On 10/7/09 12:23, Juan Sequeda wrote: Steve is right. If I am not wrong, when TBL gave his talk at CERN for the 20th aniversary of the web, he said that he was amazed that people were hacking HTML by hand. He never expected it. Now... we are the geeks doing RDF, conneg, linked data by hand...

Re: temporary URLs on Second Life

2009-07-20 Thread Dan Brickley
On 20/7/09 11:01, Danny Ayers wrote: Second Life objects to become HTTP-aware : http://www.massively.com/2009/07/08/second-life-objects-to-become-http-aware/ cool, right? well not exactly, it uses shortlived-by-design URIs: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/LSL_http_server Well, we can't have

Re: Need help mapping two letter country code to URI

2009-11-09 Thread Dan Brickley
On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 10:47 PM, Aldo Bucchi aldo.buc...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I found a dataset that represents countries as two letter country codes: DK, FI, NO, SE, UK. I would like to turn these into URIs of the actual countries they represent. ( I have no idea on whether this follows an

Re: Creating JSON from RDF

2009-12-13 Thread Dan Brickley
On Sun, Dec 13, 2009 at 8:03 PM, Dave Reynolds dave.e.reyno...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi Jeni, [Rest of post snipped for now, I'll respond properly later. Seems like we are on sufficiently similar wavelengths that it is just a matter of working the details.] I don't know where the best place

Re: Creating JSON from RDF

2009-12-14 Thread Dan Brickley
On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 10:23 AM, Richard Light rich...@light.demon.co.uk wrote: In message c74badc3.20683%t.hamm...@nature.com, Hammond, Tony t.hamm...@nature.com writes Normal developers will always want simple. Surely what normal developers actually want are simple commands whereby data

Re: Creating JSON from RDF

2009-12-14 Thread Dan Brickley
On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 10:37 AM, Jeni Tennison j...@jenitennison.com wrote: Richard, My opinion, based on the reactions that I've seen from enthusiastic, hard-working developers who just want to get things done, is that we (the data.gov.uk project in particular, linked data in general) are

Re: ISBNs, owl:sameAs, etc

2009-12-28 Thread Dan Brickley
On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 4:47 AM, Daniel O'Connor daniel.ocon...@gmail.com wrote: Psst, Chris, Tobias - any chance of RDFBookMashup rendering 'owl:sameAs urn:isbn:12434567' ? I might see if I can glue freebase's 1.8 million or so ISBNs onto rdfbookmashup. It's probably common knowledge, but

Can anyone help with an XSLT GRDDL conversion of Open Packaging Format (OPF) into RDF/XML Dublin Core

2010-01-28 Thread Dan Brickley
Hi all http://www.idpf.org/2007/opf/OPF_2.0_final_spec.html#AppendixA defines a Dublin Core-based XML metadata format used for ebooks. This is very nice but a little disconnected from other Dublin Core data in RDF. It would be great to have some XSLT to explore closer integration and use of

Re: Question about paths as URIs in the BBC RDF

2010-01-28 Thread Dan Brickley
On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 7:56 PM, Ross Singer rossfsin...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I have a question about something I've run across when trying to parse the RDF coming from the BBC.  If you take a document like: http://www.bbc.co.uk/music/artists/72c536dc-7137-4477-a521-567eeb840fa8.rdf notice

Re: DBpedia-based entity recognition service / tool?

2010-02-02 Thread Dan Brickley
On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 4:47 PM, Georgi Kobilarov georgi.kobila...@gmx.de wrote: Hi Matthias, So you're asking for the perfect entity recognition service, applicable to the easy domain of scientific texts? Sure, I developed one in my spare time, it's much better than OpenCalais, I was just too

Re: The status of Semantic Web community- perspective from Scopus and Web Of Science (WOS)

2010-02-13 Thread Dan Brickley
On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 8:22 PM, Ying Ding dingy...@indiana.edu wrote: Hi, If you are interested to know the Semantic Web: Who is who from the perspective of Scopus and Web Of Science, recently we conduct a bibliometric analysis in this field

Re: Terminology when talking about Linked Data

2010-02-17 Thread Dan Brickley
On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 12:51 PM, Damian Steer d.st...@bristol.ac.uk wrote: Historical aside: On 17/02/10 11:20, Hugh Glaser wrote: More recently I have also badged as Web of Data; See [1], since 1998 :-) It's been used fairly regularly since then, although I'd highlight [2] as a

Re: Terminology when talking about Linked Data

2010-02-17 Thread Dan Brickley
On 17 Feb 2010, at 18:14, Pat Hayes pha...@ihmc.us wrote: On Feb 17, 2010, at 6:37 AM, Dan Brickley wrote: ... . RDF was originally standardised as a metadata system, a mechanism for finding stuff ... whether that stuff was photos, videos, HTML pages, excel spreadsheets, SQL databases

Re: Colors

2010-02-23 Thread Dan Brickley
On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 8:31 AM, Pat Hayes pha...@ihmc.us wrote: Does anyone know of URIs which identify colors? Umbel has the general notion of Color, but I want the actual colors, like, you know, red, white, blue and yellow. I can make up my own, but would rather use some already out there,

Re: head/@profile needed in HTML 5? GRDDL in Linked Data community?

2010-02-24 Thread Dan Brickley
On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 5:55 PM, Dan Connolly conno...@w3.org wrote: The proposal from the editors and chairs it that it is not needed; i.e. not cost-effective. http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2010Feb/0794.html Dan B., your message suggests (without actually saying so) that

Re: Improving Organization of Govt. based Linked Data Projects

2010-03-21 Thread Dan Brickley
On 21 Mar 2010, at 12:47, Hugh Glaser h...@ecs.soton.ac.uk wrote: Hi Kingsley, I am right with you - finding stuff is hard. But I do think we could make it easier for all of us. Just the esw wiki alone requires me to put every set I create into a bunch of places 10 years ago, looking for

Re: SKOS, owl:sameAs and DBpedia

2010-03-24 Thread Dan Brickley
On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 4:57 PM, Yves Raimond yves.raim...@gmail.com wrote: Hello! We are in the process of rolling out some links to DBpedia over in BBC Programmes. However, we are facing a small issue. We use our own categorisation scheme based on SKOS, and then want to add some sameAs

Re: SKOS, owl:sameAs and DBpedia

2010-03-24 Thread Dan Brickley
On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 5:09 PM, Yves Raimond yves.raim...@gmail.com wrote: Is that an issue? Should we drop SKOS altogether if we go on with that, or should we use skos:exactMatch instead of owl:sameAs? see also http://wiki.foaf-project.org/w/term_focus I'm running out of excuses for not

Re: Should dbpedia have stuff in that is not from wikipedia - was: Re: A URI(Web ID) for the semantic web community as a foaf:Group

2010-03-27 Thread Dan Brickley
[snip] Couple of almost-independent points - Re DBpedia, I share a concern that the Wikipedia turned into a database product remain fairly clearly defined, even though the RDFization naturally includes a bit of creativity. However even that has subtleties - there are the different language

Re: KIT releases 14 billion triples to the Linked Open Data cloud

2010-04-01 Thread Dan Brickley
But I love it :) Do the numbers include dates? Dan On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 12:30 PM, Matthias Samwald samw...@gmx.at wrote: Hi Denny, I am sorry, but I have to voice some criticism of this project. Over the past two years, I have become increasingly wary of the excitement over large numbers

Re: KIT releases 14 billion triples to the Linked Open Data cloud

2010-04-01 Thread Dan Brickley
On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 6:25 PM, Martin Hepp (UniBW) martin.h...@ebusiness-unibw.org wrote: Hi Denny: Without spooling your All Fools' Day joke: I think it is a dangerous one, because there is obviously a true core in the expected criticism. I think that without any need, you give outsiders

XMP RDF extractors?

2010-04-13 Thread Dan Brickley
On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 3:56 PM, Leigh Dodds leigh.do...@talis.com wrote: Hi, Yes. PDF: http://patterns.dataincubator.org/book/linked-data-patterns.pdf EPUB: http://patterns.dataincubator.org/book/linked-data-patterns.epub Something of a tangent but this reminds me, what's the latest on RDF

Re: XMP RDF extractors?

2010-04-13 Thread Dan Brickley
On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 6:31 PM, Pierre-Antoine Champin swlists-040...@champin.net wrote: Even more tangent, but when I read in detail the XMP spec last year (in relation to the Media Annotation WG), I came to two conclusions: - XMP specifies RDF at the level of the XML serialization, which is

Re: DBpedia hosting burden

2010-04-14 Thread Dan Brickley
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 8:11 PM, Kingsley Idehen kide...@openlinksw.com wrote: Some have cleaned up their act for sure. Problem is, there are others doing the same thing, who then complain about the instance in very generic fashion. They're lucky it exists at all. I'd refer them to this

Re: DBpedia hosting burden

2010-04-15 Thread Dan Brickley
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 11:50 PM, Daniel Koller dakol...@googlemail.com wrote: Dan, ...I just setup some torrent files containing the current english and german dbpedia content: (.. as a test/proof of concept, was just curious to see how fast a network effect via p2p networks). To try, go to 

Re: DBpedia hosting burden

2010-04-15 Thread Dan Brickley
On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 9:57 PM, Kingsley Idehen kide...@openlinksw.com wrote: Ian Davis wrote: When you use the term: SPARQL Mirror (note: Leigh's comments yesterday re. not orienting towards this), you open up a different set of issues. I don't want to revisit SPARQL and SPARQL extensions

Re: DBpedia hosting burden

2010-04-15 Thread Dan Brickley
On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 9:57 PM, Kingsley Idehen kide...@openlinksw.com wrote: Ian Davis wrote: When you use the term: SPARQL Mirror (note: Leigh's comments yesterday re. not orienting towards this), you open up a different set of issues. I don't want to revisit SPARQL and SPARQL extensions

Re: UK Govt RDF Data Sets

2010-04-16 Thread Dan Brickley
On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 12:53 AM, Ian Davis li...@iandavis.com wrote: Kingsley, You should address your question directly to the project organisers, we're a technology provider and host some of the data but it is not up to us when or where the dumps get shared. My understanding is that

Re: twitter's annotation and metadata

2010-04-16 Thread Dan Brickley
+cc: Ed Summers On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 11:37 AM, Chris Sizemore chris.sizem...@bbc.co.uk wrote: the main problem is gonna be the cognitive dissonance over whether a tweet is an information or non-information resource and how many URIs are needed to fully rep a tweet... so, who's gonna

Fwd: backronym proposal: Universal Resource Linker

2010-04-18 Thread Dan Brickley
around the concept of 'linkage', I think it'll go a long way towards explaining what we're up to with RDF. Thoughts? Dan -- Forwarded message -- From: Dan Brickley dan...@danbri.org Date: Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 11:52 AM Subject: backronym proposal: Universal Resource Linker To: u

Re: Fwd: backronym proposal: Universal Resource Linker

2010-04-18 Thread Dan Brickley
On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 3:42 PM, Nathan nat...@webr3.org wrote: Wonder what would happen if we just called them Links? I think that would confuse people. And would put stress just on the point where SemWeb and HTML notions of link diverge. An HTML page can have two (hyper-)links, a

Re: backronym proposal: Universal Resource Linker

2010-04-18 Thread Dan Brickley
On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 7:40 PM, Ian Davis m...@iandavis.com wrote: When talking to people who aren't semweb engineers then i use URL/URI/link interchangeably. I don't think it matters because the 1% that care will look it all up and get the distinction and the rest will just get on and use

Re: UK Govt RDF Data Sets

2010-04-25 Thread Dan Brickley
On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 8:02 PM, Kingsley Idehen kide...@openlinksw.com wrote: Jeni Tennison wrote: Kingsley, On 15 Apr 2010, at 23:19, Kingsley Idehen wrote: Do you have any idea as to the whereabouts of RDF data sets for the SPARQL endpoints associated with data.gov.uk? [...] One thing

Re: Why should we publish ordered collections or indexes as RDF?

2010-06-03 Thread Dan Brickley
2010/6/3 Haijie.Peng haijie.p...@gmail.com: [Apologies for cross-posting] Why should we publish ordered collections or indexes as RDF? is it necessary? On the Web, very little is 'necessary'. But some things can be useful. Indexes and summaries can help software prioritise, and allow larger

Re: Organization ontology

2010-06-03 Thread Dan Brickley
On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 8:47 AM, Stuart A. Yeates syea...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 8:09 PM, Dave Reynolds dave.e.reyno...@googlemail.com wrote: On Wed, 2010-06-02 at 17:06 +1200, Stuart A. Yeates wrote: On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 7:50 PM, Dave Reynolds dave.e.reyno...@googlemail.com

Re: Organization ontology

2010-06-03 Thread Dan Brickley
On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 3:07 PM, William Waites william.wai...@okfn.org wrote: On 10-06-03 09:01, Dan Brickley wrote: I don't find anything particularly troublesome about the org: vocab on this front. If you really want to critique culturally-loaded ontologies, I'd go find one that declares

Re: Organizations changing status

2010-06-08 Thread Dan Brickley
On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 12:17 PM, William Waites william.wai...@okfn.org wrote: On 10-06-07 23:03, Emmanouil Batsis (Manos) wrote: b) what happens when organizations change legal status? I'm not certain but I don't think this ever really happens. In practice the old organisation ceases to

Re: Organization types predicates vs classes

2010-06-08 Thread Dan Brickley
On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 12:21 PM, William Waites william.wai...@okfn.org wrote: On 10-06-08 04:27, Todd Vincent wrote: By adding OrganizationType to the Organization data model, you provide the ability to modify the type of organization and can then represent both (legal) entities and (legally

Re: Organization ontology

2010-06-08 Thread Dan Brickley
On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 12:54 PM, Kingsley Idehen kide...@openlinksw.com wrote: Peristeras, Vassilios wrote: Hello all, I have the feeling that we are (at least partly) reinventing the wheel here. There have been several initiatives drafting generic models and representations for

Re: Slideshare.net as Linked Data

2010-06-08 Thread Dan Brickley
On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 8:18 PM, Paul Groth pgr...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, I've wrapped the Slideshare.net API to expose it as RDF. You can find a blog post about the service at [1] and the service itself at [2]. An interesting bit is how we deal with Slideshare's API limits by letting you

Re: ANNOUNCE: lod-announce list

2010-06-13 Thread Dan Brickley
On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 7:44 PM, Angelo Veltens angelo.velt...@online.de wrote: Hi, Ian Davis schrieb: Hi all, Now we are getting a steady growth in the number of Linked Data sites, products and services I thought it was time to create a low-volume announce list for Linked Data related

Re: The Ordered List Ontology

2010-06-30 Thread Dan Brickley
On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 6:34 PM, Pat Hayes pha...@ihmc.us wrote: On Jun 30, 2010, at 6:45 AM, Toby Inkster wrote: On Wed, 30 Jun 2010 10:54:20 +0100 Dan Brickley dan...@danbri.org wrote: That said, i'm sure sameAs and differentIndividual (or however it is called) claims could probably make

An RDF wishlist

2010-07-01 Thread Dan Brickley
(rejigged subject line) On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 4:35 AM, Pat Hayes pha...@ihmc.us wrote: Pat, I wish you had been there.  ;) I have very mixed views on this, I have to say. Part of me wanted badly to be present. But after reading the results of the straw poll, part of me wants to completely

Re: destabilizing core technologies: was Re: An RDF wishlist

2010-07-01 Thread Dan Brickley
Hi Patrick, On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 11:39 AM, Patrick Durusau patr...@durusau.net wrote: Dan, Just a quick response to only one of the interesting points you raise: It's clear that many workshop participants were aware of the risk of destabilizing the core technologies just as we are gaining

Re: Show me the money - (was Subjects as Literals)

2010-07-01 Thread Dan Brickley
On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 5:38 PM, Jeremy Carroll jer...@topquadrant.com wrote: I am still not hearing any argument to justify the costs of literals as subjects I have loads and loads of code, both open source and commercial that assumes throughout that a node in a subject position is not a

Re: Show me the money - (was Subjects as Literals)

2010-07-01 Thread Dan Brickley
On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 6:29 PM, Sandro Hawke san...@w3.org wrote: On Thu, 2010-07-01 at 17:10 +0100, Nathan wrote: In all honesty, if this doesn't happen, I personally will have no choice but to move to N3 for the bulk of things, and hope for other serializations of N3 to come along. RIF

Re: Show me the money - (was Subjects as Literals)

2010-07-01 Thread Dan Brickley
(cc: list trimmed to LOD list.) On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 7:05 PM, Kingsley Idehen kide...@openlinksw.com wrote: Cut long story short. [-cut-] We have an EAV graph model, URIs, triples and a variety of data representation mechanisms. N3 is one of those, and its basically the foundation that

Re: Show me the money - (was Subjects as Literals)

2010-07-01 Thread Dan Brickley
On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 11:35 PM, Kingsley Idehen kide...@openlinksw.com wrote: The sequence went something like this. TimBL Design Issues Note. and SPARQL emergence. Before that, RDF was simply in the dark ages. It's only simple if you weren't there :) You mean you didn't see me lurking

Re: PRISM data on the LOD cloud?

2010-07-02 Thread Dan Brickley
On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 3:19 PM, Hammond, Tony t.hamm...@nature.com wrote: Hi Kingsley: Kill me with the PDF URL :-( I think we could have been a tad more gracious here. This kind of remark only serves to alienate the well intentioned. You know, it's not actually (yet) a crime to put out a

Re: Subjects as Literals, [was Re: The Ordered List Ontology]

2010-07-02 Thread Dan Brickley
[snip] This is the second time in a few hours that a thread has degenerated into talk of accusations and insults. I don't care who started it. Sometimes email just isn't the best way to communicate. If people are feeling this way about an email discussion, it might be worth the respective

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