Re: CURIE objections in HTML5+RDFa

2009-02-26 Thread Henri Sivonen
On Feb 25, 2009, at 19:41, Manu Sporny wrote: You have to provide a better counter-solution to ccREL in order to make your point. I already did on the WHATWG list earlier, but yeah, I should have made a concrete proposal for the benefit of this list, too. I suggest using the built-in

Re: CURIE objections in HTML5+RDFa

2009-02-26 Thread Toby A Inkster
Henri Sivonen wrote: I suggest using the built-in key-value mechanisms of various popular file formats ((X)HTML, PNG, JPEG, Ogg, PDF, MP4, ID3, etc.) to encode author, license URI and, optionally, a non-author attribution name and attribution URL inside each file However not all popular file

Re: CURIE objections in HTML5+RDFa

2009-02-25 Thread Henri Sivonen
On Feb 20, 2009, at 04:39, Ben Adida wrote: Henri Sivonen wrote: Also, if RDFa turned out to be successful in text/html (with or without a blessing by the HTML 5 spec), we'd be left with syntactic complexity in the platform. In particular, if RDFa succeeds for a couple of use cases and

Re: CURIE objections in HTML5+RDFa

2009-02-25 Thread Henri Sivonen
On Feb 20, 2009, at 07:49, Manu Sporny wrote: Henri Sivonen wrote: I'm particularly worried about ccREL succeeding to the point that an alternative solution can no longer be launched into the market to replace it and Free Culture then getting encumbered by the syntactic complexity preventing

Re: CURIE objections in HTML5+RDFa

2009-02-25 Thread Manu Sporny
Henri Sivonen wrote: I'm particularly worried about ccREL succeeding to the point that an alternative solution can no longer be launched into the market to replace it and Free Culture then getting encumbered by the syntactic complexity preventing even further success. Note that I didn't

Re: CURIE objections in HTML5+RDFa

2009-02-19 Thread Ben Adida
Henri Sivonen wrote: Also, if RDFa turned out to be successful in text/html (with or without a blessing by the HTML 5 spec), we'd be left with syntactic complexity in the platform. In particular, if RDFa succeeds for a couple of use cases and fails in general (or succeeds otherwise in far down

Re: CURIE objections in HTML5+RDFa

2009-02-19 Thread Manu Sporny
Henri Sivonen wrote: I'm particularly worried about ccREL succeeding to the point that an alternative solution can no longer be launched into the market to replace it and Free Culture then getting encumbered by the syntactic complexity preventing even further success. Which alternative

Re: CURIE objections in HTML5+RDFa (was: Re: RDFa and Web Directions North 2009)

2009-02-18 Thread Elias Torres
On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 7:55 AM, Henri Sivonen hsivo...@iki.fi wrote: On Feb 17, 2009, at 05:40, Manu Sporny wrote: The front-runner for how we address the xmlns: issue seems to be @prefix. I believe using @prefix to specify CURIE prefixes will address all of your concerns with XHTML/HTML DOM

Re: CURIE objections in HTML5+RDFa

2009-02-18 Thread Manu Sporny
Henri Sivonen wrote: Using full URIs exposes the cost of the actual usability problem to the RDF community instead of making adjacent communities bear the cost through complication to their formats. Let me attempt to summarize your e-mail. You believe that full URIs are less bad than CURIEs,

CURIE objections in HTML5+RDFa (was: Re: RDFa and Web Directions North 2009)

2009-02-16 Thread Manu Sporny
Henri, The front-runner for how we address the xmlns: issue seems to be @prefix. I believe using @prefix to specify CURIE prefixes will address all of your concerns with XHTML/HTML DOM incompatibilities. Please confirm or reject this assertion (and be specific about what you do/don't like about