Proposed errata for DOM2 Range regarding insertNode()

2008-05-14 Thread Ian Hickson
DOM2 Traversal and Range has a number of problems, and really needs a rewrite. However, in the absence of the resources to do that, I realised that we could settle for releasing some errata. Arguably we as a working group have somewhat the authority to do that, so here's a proposal for a

DOM3 Events Telcon Agenda, 14 May 2008 (Today!!)

2008-05-14 Thread Doug Schepers
Hi WebAPI Fans- This is a reminder that we will have a DOM 3 Events telcon today, 14 May. Please reply to public-webapi@w3.org to express regrets if you cannot attend. The regular time is Wednesdays, 18:30-20:00 UTC. See the DOM3 Events wiki page for timezones adjustments. [1] The tentative

Re: Proposed errata for DOM2 Range regarding insertNode()

2008-05-14 Thread Olli Pettay
Ian Hickson wrote: DOM2 Range says of the insertNode() method that A node may be inserted into a Range using the following method. However, if the range is collapsed, according to a strict reading of the specification, calling insertNode() actually inserts the node _after_ the range. I propose

Telecon

2008-05-14 Thread Carmelo
Hi all: Need to pick uo my son from college and thus unable to join. Will try towards the later part of the call. Carmelo

Re: DOM3 Events Telcon Agenda, 14 May 2008 (Today!!)

2008-05-14 Thread Anne van Kesteren
On Wed, 14 May 2008 13:41:45 +0200, Doug Schepers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is a reminder that we will have a DOM 3 Events telcon today, 14 May. Please reply to public-webapi@w3.org to express regrets if you cannot attend. Can't attend. Leaving at 6 here (4PM UTC) for a hosted dinner.

Re: DOM3 Events Telcon Agenda, 14 May 2008 (Today!!)

2008-05-14 Thread Doug Schepers
Hi, Folks- I have a conflict later on in the call, so it will be a short D3E telcon. I plan to end at 3:30. Thanks- -Doug Doug Schepers wrote (on 5/14/08 7:41 AM): Hi WebAPI Fans- This is a reminder that we will have a DOM 3 Events telcon today, 14 May. Please reply to

Re: XHR setting headers

2008-05-14 Thread Bjoern Hoehrmann
* Julian Reschke wrote: Peter Michaux wrote: I think all XMLHttpRequest headers should be specified as blank when the object is created. Then the JavaScript can add any headers it needs to add. If, when the call to send() occurs, some essential header(s) is missing the XHMLHttpRequest object

Re: [July 1-3] [face to face] Agenda?

2008-05-14 Thread Anne van Kesteren
On Tue, 13 May 2008 23:21:57 +0200, Jonas Sicking [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Access-Control is developed by a wholly different WG though (at least until the two groups merge). Has it been properly announced to the members, and other participants, of that WG that this meeting is taking place?

Re: Proposed errata for DOM2 Range regarding insertNode()

2008-05-14 Thread Boris Zbarsky
Ian Hickson wrote: I propose that we change the spec to explicitly say that if you call insertNode() on a collapsed range, the end point offset is increased by one Increased at what point in time, exactly? Specifically, if there is a DOMNodeInserted listener that repositions the range when

RE: DOM3 Events Telcon Agenda, 14 May 2008 (Today!!)

2008-05-14 Thread Travis Leithead
Also have a conflict at this time. This makes two weeks in a row :( I send my regrets that I cannot attend this week. Status: * Very little progress on DOM L3 Events action items--expect to have completed a few of those by next telecom. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[DOM Events] Key events tests

2008-05-14 Thread Olli Pettay
Hi all, I made some testing on WinXP using IE7, FF3pre, Opera9.5b, Safari3.1 http://mozilla.pettay.fi/moztests/events/browser-keyCodes.htm -Olli

Re: specification of legacy key events

2008-05-14 Thread Hallvord R. M. Steen
On Thu, 08 May 2008 12:05:23 +0200, Ian Hickson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We have had requests to fire some kind of identifiable event when typing occurs during IME processing for use cases like the following: 1) To resize an area based on user typing, even during IME entry (yes, this works

Re: specification of legacy key events

2008-05-14 Thread Hallvord R. M. Steen
On Wed, 14 May 2008 22:17:39 +0200, Hallvord R. M. Steen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think all UAs I tested send keyup events - perhaps that's all we need though? (Sorry, ignore that. Only IE does - I should have re-tested before sending the E-mail..) -- Hallvord R. M. Steen Core QA

Re: Proposed errata for DOM2 Range regarding insertNode()

2008-05-14 Thread Robert Sayre
On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 6:15 PM, Ian Hickson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To my knowledge, very little Web content relies on this spec at all. That's why Acid3 tested it, to make it interoperable enough that it could be used. :-) I thought Acid3 tested things that have been written down for at

Re: specification of legacy key events

2008-05-14 Thread Bjoern Hoehrmann
* Hallvord R. M. Steen wrote: I've never really written English specification prose before (though I've been an avid reader of W3C TRs) so please give this stuff a critical but patient review ;-) I don't think it is useful to discuss specification prose if it's unclear what is to be

Re: Proposed errata for DOM2 Range regarding insertNode()

2008-05-14 Thread Robert Sayre
On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 9:02 PM, Ian Hickson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As I said in the very first e-mail on this subject, that's what I'd like to do. However, that's a significantly higher cost (years vs weeks) than releasing an errata, and it was my impression that the Mozilla community

Re: Proposed errata for DOM2 Range regarding insertNode()

2008-05-14 Thread Ian Hickson
On Wed, 14 May 2008, Robert Sayre wrote: On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 9:02 PM, Ian Hickson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As I said in the very first e-mail on this subject, that's what I'd like to do. However, that's a significantly higher cost (years vs weeks) than releasing an errata, and it

Progress Events: heads-up regarding begin vs loadstart in HTML5

2008-05-14 Thread Ian Hickson
FYI, I just changed the HTML5 spec to use 'loadstart' instead of 'begin' for the first ProgressEvent. It turns out the reason I used 'begin' is that an older version of Progress Events used 'begin', and this was changed without me noticing. Is there a place where I can track what feedback

Re: Proposed errata for DOM2 Range regarding insertNode()

2008-05-14 Thread Boris Zbarsky
Ian Hickson wrote: DOM2 Range doesn't define anything to this level of detail yet, unfortunately. Indeed. The wonders of Conway's Law... Nevertheless, this question is somewhat important in terms of deciding where the range should be positioned. For example regular old insertions and