On Tue, 4 Apr 2006, Web APIs Issue Tracker wrote:
Options would be:
1) forget about defaultView, just have parentWindow
2) don't add parentWindow
3) keep both
I favor #3.
Agreed.
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On Tue, 4 Apr 2006, Web APIs Issue Tracker wrote:
It also requires that if any document that *isn't* being presented in a
browsing context implements the DocumentWindow interface, then the
defaultView must be null.
Ian Hickson questioned whether it makes sense to require this - I am
.
defaultView and parentWindow definitely both get used.
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binding and no _not_ permit a JS implementation to expose that API.
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, and the location and cookie properties of the DocumentWindow
# object, must return null, and any methods that are defined in terms of
# the browsing context's session history must do nothing.
(...except change DocumentWindow to something more correct.)
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On Fri, 7 Apr 2006, Cameron McCormack wrote:
So I am not sure that the connection between script and Window is the
right one.
It's about ten years too late to change this...
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are clear that it can't give you any
information that getResponseHeader() can't give you.
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independently of the other.
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On Wed, 12 Apr 2006, Julian Reschke wrote:
Ian Hickson wrote:
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But I would add one more. Authors are stupid. We shouldn't provide them with
features whose only possible use is for them to shoot themselves in the
foot. In other words, I would phrase the question not as which headers
at a
minimum going forward.
Sounds good.
Let me know when you think you've addressed all my comments so I can do
another thorough review.
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.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cross_Site_Scripting
The solution is to not allow scripts uploaded by one user to be displayed
to another user, or to only allow them to be displayed on a site that is
unrelated to where you are doing your authenticated edits.
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+0039 (0-9), U+0023 (#) and
U+002A (*).
This only really makes sense if we do the same with A-Z keys on Western
keyboards, IMHO.
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introduces security vulnerabilities).
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-flight check.
OK; I wasn't sure if you were retracting that or not.
I think we should retract it for POST. I agree we should keep it for
non-GET and non-POST methods.
I'll post an updated proposal that takes into account comments so far
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return any header values except for the following headers:
Cache-Control, Content-Language, Content-Type, Expires, Last-Modified,
Pragma. The document.cookie attribute must return the empty string,
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On Tue, 18 Apr 2006, Ian Davis wrote:
On 18/04/2006 00:12, Ian Hickson wrote:
Access check: If there are response headers with the name
Content-Access-Control, then they must have their values parsed
as the data part of an ?access-control? PI.
My concern with this security
or an older system (indeed, the older the better, as it'll
work with more browsers).
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accurately represent what implementations do
is useless. Make it implementable, take into account feedback from
implementers who are telling you the constraints, and don't write a spec
that you know will not represent reality.
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, it means there's no point requiring put
to be sent as put instead of PUT because an implementor has informed
you that implementors use network libraries that are outside their
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HTTP.
I have made this change, are there similar examples elsewhere in the
draft?
How do you test that requirement? I'm confused as to why that is a
conformance requirement and what it means. Shouldn't that just be
non-normative introductory text?
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in designing the real
feature. (Or, would have been forced to call it something else.)
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convention
to everything.
Just have the spec say the preferred syntax for extensions is to have the
vendor name in the extension. No reason to make any sort of conformance
statement out of it -- how would you test it anyway?
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On Sat, 22 Apr 2006, Maciej Stachowiak wrote:
Let's face it, XMLHttpRequest only offers access to a subset of HTTP
protocol features, this is not avoidable, now let's pick that subset
based on pragmatic considerations, not theoretical purity.
Hear hear.
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significant use, is not really a major issue. But let's not
just casually increase spec complexity without doing our due diligence.
Again, hear hear.
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gigabytes in size, I would
request that you please provide the numbers in consistent units (bytes) if
you provide them at all. I don't want to have to back-compute the bytes
transferred or have to special case different sizes of files. Bytes are
nice and simple and work.
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be parsed into a DOM as XML can.
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On Tue, 2 May 2006, Maciej Stachowiak wrote:
Proposed IDL interface for WheelEvent:
interface WheelEvent : UIEvent {
interface MultiWheelEvent : UIEvent {
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in which the wheel is not on a mouse, I guess screenX/Y and
clientX/Y are 0?
They are presumably the same value as they are on click events that are
dispatched as the default action of keyboard events.
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On Sun, 14 May 2006, Anne van Kesteren wrote:
On Wed, 26 Apr 2006 16:22:49 +0200, Ian Hickson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This has been asked a couple of times before. At some point reset will
be defined and it will say that all members of the object are set to
their initial value
those), it's generally considerd
quite bad practice.
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On Sun, 14 May 2006, Anne van Kesteren wrote:
On Sun, 14 May 2006 14:05:57 +0200, Ian Hickson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
var request = new XMLHttpRequest();
Given that it doesn't have to be a request I think 'r' is saver or
perhaps just 'x'...
Please don't use single letter
array. I
actually like this idea a lot since that'll integrate much better with
scripts than a StaticNodeList would.
That makes a lot of sense. I support this.
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that the Cross-site Extensions to XMLHttpRequest
specification should have the acronym XXX. I figure if I'm going to be
involved in a spec that has an X in the name, I'd better go the whole way.
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the way it is is Security).
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Xmlhttprequest), a simple one-domain XMLHttpRequest call can trivially
turn into a cross-domain call simply by hitting a redirect. IMHO the
restrictions for XXX should be the same as for normal XMLHttpRequest,
otherwise we're just asking for obscure security bugs.
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and, indeed, a community dedicated to finding such issues.
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On Thu, 27 Jul 2006, Karl Dubost wrote:
Le 27 juil. 06 à 07:08, Ian Hickson a écrit :
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What is hostile content?
Content that attempts to subvert the implementation.
Then say it. I think it will help.
I'll leave that up to the editor
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On Thu, 27 Jul 2006, Karl Dubost wrote:
Le 27 juil. 06 à 10:17, Ian Hickson a écrit :
Note that we were more than happy to see a security section.
Personally I think that having a separate security section is a bad way of
designing a spec, since it doesn't encourage you to think
clicking game attack will be unsuccessful, by positioning the
file dialog such that the button location doesn't coincide with a
sensitive part of the dialog.)
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the APIs
for browsers to an absolute minimum, especially now with the ballooning
number of new APIs that are being specified, and for HTML browsers I
really think it would be much simpler (and safer) to stick this on the end
of HTMLInputElement rather than have a whole new API.
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that did not support, say, GET or POST but only did HEAD would
be useless.
Of course. But you don't need a spec to tell you that.
Famous last words...
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this issue.
Doesn't that make it impossible to match an uppercase prefix? Or am I
missing something?
Selectors are case-insensitive; thus there can't be an uppercase prefix.
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themselves Hmm. Now what does select() do in this particular
situation?.
Then we should switch to Chinese for method names.
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be document.select(). It's
clear what it does given the context, and fits in well with the similar
existing functionality, document.all. Would select() be ok with you?
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On Wed, 20 Dec 2006, Robin Berjon wrote:
On Dec 20, 2006, at 23:02, Ian Hickson wrote:
This thread is going nowhere. I propose that we let the document's
editor take into account all the input and then have the editor make a
decision that addresses everyone's concerns as much
someone
decide on a compromise?
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and decisions.
Naturally, this should be based on all the feedback received, but
sometimes overall spec quality argues that not everyone can be happy.
Having compromises where everyone can live with it means that the
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).
FWIW, the special casing was done at the request of the HTML working group.
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FYI, the XBL2 spec currently defines two events, 'xbl-bound' and
'bindings-are-ready', without namespaces. If anyone thinks that these
events should be namespaced, please let me know.
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Yeah, I agree with that. What's the rationale for not having
bindings-are-ready and bound?
'bound' on its own is too vague.
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precedent
in the new world of public Web spec development.
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group override the editor on such a trivial
issue as naming is a bad precedent for open Web spec development.
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creep and certainly, as you point out, without letting their own opinions
make them ignore important parts of the community.
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micromanaging the names.)
I should probably point out that I represent a company whose opinion is
that the longer names are fine. I'm not worried about what the names are.
My point is that the process by which the names were obtained is not a
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that the editor is not being forced
down a path that represents the community better, but is just being forced
to take a different minority position? Especially on an issue that, as you
point out, will never be more than a minor pain?
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criteria.
If it helps, as one of the editors of the Selectors specification, I would
say that it isn't incorrect to consider div, p to be a selector
(singular). The terminology in the spec says that technically that's a
group of selectors, but I wouldn't worry about that.
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MUST fire at zero bytes
MUST fire again at the end, even if that is zero bytes
SHOULD fire at least once every 500ms in between the above two events,
unless no progress has been made in that time.
SHOULD NOT fire more than once every 10ms.
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I haven't actually looked at the spec, but, I would recommend something
along the lines of:
Apparently I should have given rationales, so:
MUST fire at zero bytes
...so that progress bars can be initialized with the right length
On Sat, 27 Jan 2007, Jim Ley wrote:
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MUST fire again at the end, even if that is zero bytes
...so that progress bars can be easily guarenteed to reach the 100%
mark, which is important for usability.
Using onload is sensible
, then removed by the handler for
the existing 'load' event, we can easily foster backwards-compatible UI
that will work identically in old and new UAs with the exception of having
nice updating progress bars in the new UAs.
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On Sat, 10 Feb 2007, Web APIs Issue Tracker wrote:
Is it worth adding to progress events to support this use case, or
should it stay as small as possible?
Are there any other actual use cases? What else would you use the progress
events for if not a standard progress UI?
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Events.
The acknowledgements refer to the WHATWG progress event proposal as
being invaluable in preparing this draft, but that seems unlikely since
there is no such proposal (the provided reference is to the progress
element, a UI widget).
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the definitions
back to HTML5 to deal with the more complicated cases which the Windows
spec says are out of scope.)
Could you give an exact list of the changes between the WHATWG draft and
this one? (Ideally to the level of individual word and markup changes?)
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section is empty.
fileName: The name of the file, exclusive of its path. Good.
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% of the multibillion document sample) that the numbers are
probably swamped by the error margin.
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On Tue, 22 May 2007, Bjoern Hoehrmann wrote:
The problem we want to solve with the ES Bindings specification is that
Who is we here? IMHO, the problem we want to solve is the lack of a
clear and succint yet detailed formal definition of how DOM objects in JS
should be implemented.
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, is the answer acceptable?
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On Thu, 6 Apr 2006, Boris Zbarsky wrote:
Ian Hickson wrote:
The case I was particularly concerned about was not presented vs
not presented, but has its own global scripting context and is
neutral to script. A document in an IFRAME has its own Window -- if
you have navigated away
FYI, DOMContentLoaded is now defined as part of HTML5.
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On Thu, 24 May 2007, Boris Zbarsky wrote:
Ian Hickson wrote:
Does:
http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/#browsing
...(specifically point 4 in the algorithm)
Quite frankly, I don't see how point 4 is compatible with the real
world. In particular, if point 4
not sure I remember which it was.
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do about that.
It almost seems like window names should be scoped to origins But I
bet that would break some site somewhere. :(
Indeed, I tried doing that earlier and you complained, saying it would
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compatibility with Web content, as I understand it. So the sooner we
define how this is to work, the sooner we can get wider consistency and
less browser differences that affect authors.
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native
representation of a byte array than a UTF-16 string.
Editorial: you have which functions, analagously to the (extraneous
comma) in various places.
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to have finished and then fires. As far as I can tell the spec
is exact about this.
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. Non-idea for the end-user, but by
their own choice.
Referer is also blocked when going from https:// to http://, for the same
reasons as above, and we want Referer-Root available then too.
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, it should
probably be listed as something that specifications should only include if
it is considered useful for that particular case.
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spec, I can just define a preprocessor step for this for myself.)
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On Thu, 18 Oct 2007, Cameron McCormack wrote:
Ian Hickson:
Our conclusion was that we would like a way to mark an interface as
being a callback and thus implementable as a function, with the interface
having one method, that method defing the signature of the function. Such
interfaces
lifetime, depending on which document is active. What should happen
when the original document is no longer the active document? Directly
accessing window.document at that point could be across-origin error.
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my
testing:
http://tc.labs.opera.com/apis/XMLHttpRequest/open/031.htm
Then again, there's no specification that I know of that defines when
the document attribute on the Window object changes, exactly.
HTML5 does.
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On Fri, 23 Nov 2007, Boris Zbarsky wrote:
Ian Hickson wrote:
Actually it does, in that navigation is the only way to change the
window.document attribute's value. Removing an iframe from another
document doesn't affect the iframe's Window object's document attribute.
Is navigation
it as it gives more information to the server
about what is going on and can help inform the server's response.
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it now support
Selectors API? Your answer is yes. mine, according to your
specification - no.
Yet if the spec had had a hasFeature check, it would be returning true
right now, since they would have implemented that too. So hasFeature()
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think this is a highly theoretical concern and in practice hasFeature()
is a waste of time and effort (and memory and CPU and bandwidth).
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matches it?
That seems like optimising for the wrong case in a pretty big way.
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sense to have authoring conformance requirements
for this spec at all.
Anyway. HTH,
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How do you mean?
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, and the commentors
have a clear way of knowing when to look at the spec to see if they are
happy with the new text. Just a suggestion, take it or leave it as you
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by the document.
Thus it is possible for an element to match neither * * nor :root.
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On Thu, 13 Mar 2008, Boris Zbarsky wrote:
Ian Hickson wrote:
Webkit is correct. The Selectors spec defines :root as:
The :root pseudo-class represents an element that is the root of the
document.
OK. It wasn't obvious to me whether that was because people hadn't
considered
stuff ([#textContent*='...'], [#col=4], [#row2], etc), this, and the
various other new ideas that have been suggested since Selectors last had
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behaviour of their author's
favourite browser, and thus failing on browsers that arbitrarily picked a
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Things that are impossible
to define
[[Construct]], thus making this vary on a per-interface basis.
Requiring that [[Call]] be implemented but not saying what its actual
behaviour should be is a bit strange, I think.
I agree that that is not an option either.
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on a
technologically superior, safer, and more comprehensive solution that has
as much implementation experience and significantly more authoring
experience, based on extending existing APIs instead of arbitarily
introducing new, incompatible APIs.
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Ian Hickson U+1047E
'. It seems
to have the same degree of 'compatibility' as introducing new APIs
on the XHR object.
The XHR2 proposal isn't a new API. It's the same API for same-domain
as cross-domain requests.
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