Re: What do we mean by parking Web Database? [Was: Re: TPAC report day 2]

2009-11-12 Thread Jonas Sicking
On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 12:58 AM, Maciej Stachowiak m...@apple.com wrote: On Nov 8, 2009, at 11:12 PM, Jonas Sicking wrote: -Regards, Art Barstow [1] http://www.w3.org/2009/11/02-webapps-minutes.html#item12 [2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2009OctDec/0477.html From a

Re: What do we mean by parking Web Database? [Was: Re: TPAC report day 2]

2009-11-09 Thread Maciej Stachowiak
On Nov 8, 2009, at 11:12 PM, Jonas Sicking wrote: -Regards, Art Barstow [1] http://www.w3.org/2009/11/02-webapps-minutes.html#item12 [2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2009OctDec/0477.html From a technical point of view, are we expecting that there will actually be

Re: What do we mean by parking Web Database? [Was: Re: TPAC report day 2]

2009-11-09 Thread Robert O'Callahan
On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 9:58 PM, Maciej Stachowiak m...@apple.com wrote: On Nov 8, 2009, at 11:12 PM, Jonas Sicking wrote: Indeed. I still personally wouldn't call it multiple independent implementations though. Would you call multiple implementations that use the standard C library

Re: What do we mean by parking Web Database? [Was: Re: TPAC report day 2]

2009-11-09 Thread Maciej Stachowiak
On Nov 9, 2009, at 3:12 AM, Robert O'Callahan wrote: On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 9:58 PM, Maciej Stachowiak m...@apple.com wrote: On Nov 8, 2009, at 11:12 PM, Jonas Sicking wrote: Indeed. I still personally wouldn't call it multiple independent implementations though. Would you call multiple

Re: What do we mean by parking Web Database? [Was: Re: TPAC report day 2]

2009-11-09 Thread Robin Berjon
On Nov 9, 2009, at 09:58 , Maciej Stachowiak wrote: On Nov 8, 2009, at 11:12 PM, Jonas Sicking wrote: Indeed. I still personally wouldn't call it multiple independent implementations though. Would you call multiple implementations that use the standard C library independent? Obviously

Re: What do we mean by parking Web Database? [Was: Re: TPAC report day 2]

2009-11-09 Thread Maciej Stachowiak
On Nov 9, 2009, at 3:49 AM, Robin Berjon wrote: On Nov 9, 2009, at 09:58 , Maciej Stachowiak wrote: On Nov 8, 2009, at 11:12 PM, Jonas Sicking wrote: Indeed. I still personally wouldn't call it multiple independent implementations though. Would you call multiple implementations that use

Re: What do we mean by parking Web Database? [Was: Re: TPAC report day 2]

2009-11-09 Thread Robert O'Callahan
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 12:44 AM, Maciej Stachowiak m...@apple.com wrote: If that were the extent of the implementation, I might agree. However, that doesn't accurately characterize at least WebKit's WebDatabase implementation. WebKit has around 15k lines of code which implement

Re: What do we mean by parking Web Database? [Was: Re: TPAC report day 2]

2009-11-09 Thread Robert O'Callahan
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 12:56 AM, Maciej Stachowiak m...@apple.com wrote: I agree that your Gecko example would be questionable. But to give an example on the other side of the fence, WebKit uses a copy of Mozilla's image decoding code, and yet I think our implementation of the img element

Re: What do we mean by parking Web Database? [Was: Re: TPAC report day 2]

2009-11-09 Thread Charles McCathieNevile
On Mon, 09 Nov 2009 03:44:09 -0800, Maciej Stachowiak m...@apple.com wrote: At the Web Apps WG face-to-face meeting at TPAC, all parties agreed (in the room at least) to let the spec continue without fully specifying the SQL dialect. This is not at all the sense that I got. Hixie agreed

Re: What do we mean by parking Web Database? [Was: Re: TPAC report day 2]

2009-11-09 Thread Nikunj R. Mehta
On Nov 9, 2009, at 12:58 AM, Maciej Stachowiak wrote: I think the likely outcome of the current situation will be that new mobile browsers will have a harder time establishing themselves in the market, since many popular mobile web apps will be using a database technology where the

What do we mean by parking Web Database? [Was: Re: TPAC report day 2]

2009-11-08 Thread Arthur Barstow
On Nov 7, 2009, at 3:53 PM, ext Charles McCathieNevile wrote: The draft minutes are included at http://www.w3.org/2009/11/02-webapps-minutes.html starting from the WebIDL Thanks for the summaries Chaals! Offline storage / databases The SQL-based Web Database proposal will probably not

Re: What do we mean by parking Web Database? [Was: Re: TPAC report day 2]

2009-11-08 Thread Maciej Stachowiak
On Nov 8, 2009, at 12:43 PM, Jonas Sicking wrote: On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 7:24 AM, Arthur Barstow art.bars...@nokia.com wrote: On Nov 7, 2009, at 3:53 PM, ext Charles McCathieNevile wrote: The draft minutes are included at http://www.w3.org/2009/11/02-webapps-minutes.html starting from

Re: What do we mean by parking Web Database? [Was: Re: TPAC report day 2]

2009-11-08 Thread Jonas Sicking
-Regards, Art Barstow [1] http://www.w3.org/2009/11/02-webapps-minutes.html#item12 [2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2009OctDec/0477.html From a technical point of view, are we expecting that there will actually be multiple independent interoperable implementations?