Re: [Puppet Users] Re: continues puppet run in production

2009-12-30 Thread james
2009/12/30 berber webersi...@gmail.com: I'm starting to wonder, put bluntly so don’t get mad, if “Lazy” system admins run puppet continuously in production, while putting their systems in harm way due to a possible bug in puppet, corruption of the source, accidental changes to the manifest, etc…

Re: [Puppet Users] Re: continues puppet run in production

2009-12-30 Thread Julian Simpson
Is this the case or am I missing out on the big picture? Since when does “being productive” come before production integrity? I've seen production integrity used as an excuse for not delivering new services, costing the business $$$. There has to be a balance... -- You received this message

Re: [Puppet Users] Re: continues puppet run in production

2009-12-30 Thread Scott Smith
berber wrote: This doesn't sound very professional. You would risk your production environment because it's uncomfortable for the sys admin to remember he needs to roll back a change in 10 minutes or 10 hours? Assume we are talking about a business that looses tens of thousands of $$$ for

Re: [Puppet Users] Re: continues puppet run in production

2009-12-30 Thread Silviu Paragina
Bugs happen in any service. This is the classical dilemma of plugging out your computer from the network vs connectivity (usability in this case). From my perspective high security risk bugs happen rarely enough to use both puppet and any other service I use. IMHO misconfiguration has a

Re: [Puppet Users] Re: continues puppet run in production

2009-12-30 Thread Julian Simpson
I'm not mad, I take pride in my laziness, I'm more efficient that way. On Laziness: Wall along with Randal L. Schwartz and Tom Christiansen writing in the second edition of Programming Perl, outlined the Three Virtues of a Programmer: Laziness - The quality that makes you go to great effort to

[Puppet Users] beginner good practice question

2009-12-30 Thread deet
Hello. I'm a about 2 months into a puppet poc. I've got the low hanging fruit taken care of and have the standard manifests which apply to every host of a given operating system. Basically just schlepping lot's of standard files out to every host of a given OS type. No real decision making

[Puppet Users] Re: Package type log messages

2009-12-30 Thread Jamie
Hi Dan Thanks for the pointer to the bug. I actually used purge in my manifest because when I tried absent I would get errors about not being able to remove a package because it was needed by something else. On Dec 29, 10:04 pm, Dan Bode d...@reductivelabs.com wrote: Hi Jamie, On Tue, Dec

Re: [Puppet Users] Re: Package type log messages

2009-12-30 Thread Dan Bode
Hi, On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 6:54 PM, Jamie gojamieg...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Dan Thanks for the pointer to the bug. I actually used purge in my manifest because when I tried absent I would get errors about not being able to remove a package because it was needed by something else. yeah,

[Puppet Users] Re: how to specify source parameter for gem packages

2009-12-30 Thread byron appelt
Answering my own question here. As it turns out, the source parameter does work as I was expecting it to, but only in puppet versions 0.24.5 and greater. I was trying with 0.24.4. On Dec 24, 1:00 pm, byron appelt byron.app...@gmail.com wrote: I am trying to use the package class to manage

Re: [Puppet Users] yet another class dependency question.

2009-12-30 Thread Dan Bode
Hi, On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 9:52 PM, Sukh Khehra skhe...@proofpoint.com wrote: Hi, I am running puppet version 0.25.1 on both the server and client and am getting the following error on a puppet run: err: Could not apply complete catalog: Could not retrieve dependency 'Class[http]' of

Re: [Puppet Users] yet another class dependency question.

2009-12-30 Thread Dan Bode
On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 10:45 PM, Sukh Khehra skhe...@proofpoint.comwrote: Thanks Dan. Unfortunately, this did not work for me. err: Could not apply complete catalog: Could not retrieve dependency 'Class[::http]' of Class[puppet::http] Does anyone know of another way to fully qualify

Re: [Puppet Users] Re: beginner good practice question

2009-12-30 Thread Scott Smith
deet wrote: Obviously I hadn't taken into consideration on how I could support multiple zpools on one host. Just figured this out as I went to add a second zpool to the node headbone. So am I wanting to use definitions to support creating multiple zpools (or whatever) per In your case,

[Puppet Users] Re: Newbie trying ModuleSSHAuth : getting resource Ssh_auth_key_namecheck[id_rsa] already exists.

2009-12-30 Thread Kassec
On Dec 29, 1:10 pm, Andrew Schulman google-groups- and...@sneakemail.com wrote: There are actually two problems here: (1) ssh::auth was trying to authorize the us...@lan key in the wrong place, i.e. in /home/user2/.ssh/authorized_keys. I just uploaded a new release, 0.3.2, that fixes

Re: [Puppet Users] Re: Newbie trying ModuleSSHAuth : getting resource Ssh_auth_key_namecheck[id_rsa] already exists.

2009-12-30 Thread Andrew Schulman
I spent some time to find the subtle difference (regarding $home) between : ssh::auth::server { r...@ssh: } And : ssh::auth::server { r...@ssh: user= root, } ;) Please, enlighten me. If it's not right, I'll correct it. Just find me a

Re: [Puppet Users] Re: Newbie trying ModuleSSHAuth : getting resource Ssh_auth_key_namecheck[id_rsa] already exists.

2009-12-30 Thread Andrew Schulman
Oops, I've been too fast. When I try to ssh::auth::key (realize Ssh::Auth::Key[$keyname]) and ssh::auth::server without ssh::auth::client on a node, it fails on the master : err: Failed to realize virtual resources Ssh::Auth::key[...@ssh] ssh::auth::key can't be made into a virtual resource