Hello list,
I've just noticed in the SQLAlchemy docs that the `extension` parameter
passed to session is being deprecated in favor of session events,
however the Pyramid alchemy scaffold is still passing
ZopeTransactionExtension as `extension` to the sessionmaker (and in turn
to the
I'm not sure if this is currently a bug because of missing
implementation or something, or I'm missing some configuration.
Basically, when a route is matched by URL pattern but fails other
predicates like request_method or accept, it should respond with 405 and
406 (for those two), not with
Hello list,
I'm trying to use the built-in json renderer to produce a json formatted
response, but if I set the response content type to anything else,
despite of explicitly naming the renderer via view_config, the response
body is empty:
@view_config(route_name=test, request_method=POST,
My bad for failing to mention that this is Pyramid 1.4a3.
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On 09/16/2012 07:46 AM, Marius Gedminas wrote:
Yeah, sounds like you hit this:
http://mg.pov.lt/blog/logging-fileconfig-gotcha.html
Yes, that's it. My google-fu must have failed me. :)
Thanks a lot, that fixed my problem!
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Hi all,
I'm resending this, the first time I sent it didn't reach the list.
I'm having a bit of an issue with logging. I did this (a trick I picked
up from a site to enable logging under uwsgi):
__init__.py
def main(global_config, **settings):
Main
Hi all,
I have a JSON RPC API as a set of methods which all have some common
processing involved, esp. regarding exceptions. To catch those and in
turn raise proper JsonRpcError, with proper code and message, I wanted
to wrap the methods in a common decorator.
@common_rpc
I think this is getting old
Please, how do I run a Pyramid 1.3 app, full with logging as specified
in the .ini file, under uWSGI.
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On 07/11/2012 11:24 PM, Michael Merickel wrote:
Sure, because it's not ready for another release. There's only some
minor improvements atm, the big thing pending for release is python 3
compatibility (which is a pain because of pyamf).
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Hi all.
I am not quite sure from the docs, nor quickly looking at the source,
what is the order of business with the IAuthenticationPolicy interfaced
objects. There are two separate but tightly integrated methods:
(un)authenticated_userid() and effective_principals() which per
CallbackAuth
The cookbook. I keep missing that little gem every. Single. Time.
Thanks! ;)
On 06/29/2012 06:30 PM, Michael Merickel wrote:
The cookbook illustrates a way to cache this information inside of
`request.user`. The idea is that authenticated_userid and
effective_principals both use
On 06/13/2012 03:21 PM, Chris McDonough wrote:
On 06/12/2012 06:36 PM, Wade Leftwich wrote:
With the Pyramid docs in ebook form on my phone I tend to browse them
at odd times. Today, standing in line at the post office, I stopped at
this paragraph right near the beginning:
It’s useful to use a
On 06/06/2012 07:49 AM, Andi wrote:
just a benchmark, but better than nothing. found that during our
research.
http://blog.curiasolutions.com/the-great-web-framework-shootout/
andi
(sent right out of my head)
The Curiasolutions shootout is interesting. However, even for a
synthetic
On 06/06/2012 09:50 AM, tanshu wrote:
Hi,
I am sorry if this has been asked before, but I couldn't find the
answer anywhere. I am relatively new to python / pyramid and have
developed a few test programs. I come from a C# background and could
not figure out what the best pattern is to lay
On 06/06/2012 09:18 PM, Mike Orr wrote:
I generally put business logic in the model, but I may have a
different notion of business logic than Tanshu does. To me, business
logic is any calculations that are specific to the model but are
*independent* of the UI and HTML. So form validators belong
On 05/28/2012 08:44 AM, Ergo wrote:
Hi,
You can use errormator wsgi client, that allows you to use free
https://errormator.com service.
It will show you slow requests/slow sqlalchemy queries within your app,
you would need to tweak the client to show you requests below 1s
(that's min
On 05/27/2012 10:30 PM, bard stéphane wrote:
you could be interested by this small pyramid tween
pyramid_perfstat
https://bitbucket.org/tuck/pyramid_perfstat
also available in pypi
http://pypi.python.org/pypi/pyramid_perfstat
easy to use and maybe more pyramid aware. It logs
average in
I'm interested in visualizing some performance metrics of my Pyramid app.
1. Average, min and max response time per route group (eg. interface
views vs API calls)
2. Optimal threads per process ratio
3. Backlog size
I'm using uwsgi. I've found this:
On 05/25/2012 02:19 PM, Roberto De Ioris wrote:
This is a far better approach:
http://projects.unbit.it/uwsgi/wiki/StatsServer
having simple json to manage is an invaluable feature.
You may want to look at the uwsgitop project for an example usage.
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On 05/21/2012 10:52 AM, Eric Lemoine wrote:
On Sun, May 20, 2012 at 12:53 PM, Vlad K.v...@haronmedia.com wrote:
Okay, this helped a lot. Installed Pyramid 1.3.2, upgraded zope.deprecation
back to 4.0.0, zope.interface back to 4.0.0, had also to upgrade transaction
to 1.3.0 (dep of
of which is 3.5.1 I think.
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On 05/18/2012 01:12 PM, Vlad K. wrote:
FTR, I just released zope.sqlalchemy 0.7.1 and Pyramid 1.3.1. These
include fixes that allow them to work with zope.interface 4.0.
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On 05/18/2012 10:53 AM, Brian Sutherland wrote:
Try sticking to zope.interface 3.8.x for now:
http://pypi.python.org/pypi/zope.interface
Okay, yeah, Pyramid's setup.py says zope.interface = 3.8.0, I
guess that's safe then. Thanks for
BTW, seems downgrading zope.intarface to 3.8.0 requires also
zope.deprecation 4.0.0 , the latest of which is 3.5.1 I think.
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On 05/18/2012 01:12 PM, Vlad K. wrote:
On 05/18/2012 10:53 AM, Brian Sutherland wrote:
Try sticking to zope.interface 3.8.x for now:
http
On 05/17/2012 02:44 PM, Ceri Storey wrote:
Also, it's worth bearing in mind that heapy will only record objects
allocated and tracked by python, which will of course be a subset of
the total memory allocated to python by the os (which is what the
virtual size (VIRT) measures). I'd guess that
Thanks for all your replies.
I've also tried pympler and looks like nice alternative to heapy().
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Hi.
Just upgraded a 1.2 app to 1.3, with clean new virtualenv, all is
working fine (with changes to config for waitress) except those pesky
DeprecationWarning messages caused by Transaction, Chameleon, SQLA and
even the configurator.
It is in line with the changelog in docs stating it
How? Which tools?
I'm trying to use heapy but I'm fighting both with lack of proper
documentation, and with the fact that I need to profile a wsgi app run
behind uwsgi. Even if I run with pserve (1.3) I have no idea how to use
heapy's interactive features.
What else would you suggest to
Okay, followup on this problem.
I've now replaced one large lxml.etree root with chunked writing
into a tempfile. The XML view basically does this (debug heapy
output included):
hp = guppy.hpy()
print " BEFORE TEMPFILE"
There's no right answer to that.
I suppose the choice of DB depends on your data structure. Do you need
simple key-value storage, data store, or normalized database and
relations? Can you live with denormalized data? Do you need complex
queries for which SQL is most suitable? Do you need
Hi all.
I am building an application that will be used both by humans and
machines (via an API) and I am making it RESTful. I've decided to
design it as one big API where human-operated browser is just another
client to the API. With that I'm actually mixing user interface and data
in
On 05/06/2012 10:11 PM, Ben Bangert wrote:
I found this presentation quite fascinating regarding how
Python handles memory:
http://revista.python.org.ar/2/en/html/memory-fragmentation.html
Oh yeah, I've seen that presentation before, it is very interesting.
Which version of Python? You
On 05/07/2012 06:01 PM, Bill Seitz wrote:
I agree, the human-UI needs to be optimized for an elegant UX, the API
needs to be kept logically simple.
For the API, you should be able to automate a lot of the CRUD
renderings by introspection on your db structure, equivalent to how
Rails/Django
On 05/08/2012 12:42 AM, Jonathan Vanasco wrote:
Yes. but if you're at the size where it needs to be a SOA , you
pretty much need to have that daemon running nonstop. So you have a
single process that is 'eternally' allocated 256MB (or whatever) and
does all the grunt work - and you never run
On 05/06/2012 07:31 AM, Roberto De Ioris wrote:
But why moving away from uWSGI if it already give you all of the features
you need to bypass your problem without installing other softwares ?
(remember, uWSGI is not about speed as lot of people still think, it is
about features)
As options:
On 05/06/2012 08:55 AM, Malthe Borch wrote:
On 6 May 2012 04:27, Vlad K.v...@haronmedia.com wrote:
I've got about 20 XML file formats to construct, each produced by its own
(pluggable) module because each defines its own format etc... Switching to a
file-based partial generation would mean a
Hi all.
As I understand it Python won't release internally released memory back
to OS. So it happens in my Pyramid app that has to process/construct
rather largish XML files occasionally, the memory consumption jumps to
several hundred MB and stays there for good or until I recycle the
Hi all.
I'm using custom session-based Authentication Policy, and sessions are
using default UnencryptedCookieSessionFactory in my Pyramid 1.2 app.
For certain views I'd like to block (re)sending of Set-Cookie header
because the results are cached by the web server (nginx) in which I
Thanks for your reply.
I tried both subscribing to NewResponse and adding a tween above main,
but it seems that the session is working above INGRESS which I cannot
override, because there is no set-cookie header in the response object.
Unless I'm doing something wrong it seems I'd have to
I think in nginx + uwsgi setup you can use uwsgi_param to set, say,
HTTP_SCHEME in your env taking it from $scheme variable in nginx
(contains http or https). Fastcgi implementations have something
similar.
Otherwise (mod_wsgi ?) iirc, Paster Prefix middleware should be used.
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Hi all.
I have a Pyramid bootstrapped script that has to process thousands of
rows (on relatively complex model relationships) per call from command
line. Pyramid is bootstrapped to reuse models and helper functions from
the main web application this script is part of.
The problem I'm
on.
Sorry for wasting your time, folks.
I'm sending this email to the SQLAlchemy list too, where I asked about
this problem, for further reference in case anyone else has the same
problem
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On 02/23/2012 02:24 PM, Vlad K. wrote:
Hi all.
I have a Pyramid bootstrapped script
,
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On 02/23/2012 02:24 PM, Vlad K. wrote:
Hi all.
I have a Pyramid bootstrapped script that has to process thousands of
rows (on relatively complex model relationships) per call from command
line. Pyramid is bootstrapped to reuse models and helper functions
from the main web application
Hi all,
is there a way to hook the code into some kind of application shutdown
event? In particular I'd like to call engine.dispose() whenever the app
shuts down (including pyramid.paster.bootstrap'ed scripts that call
env[closer]() at the end), to prevent my PostgreSQL logs from filling
On 01/15/2012 01:08 AM, Igor wrote:
On 14 янв, 19:11, Vlad K.v...@haronmedia.com wrote:
Hi all!
I'm testdriving uwsgi to deploy Pyramid apps, and there's something I
don't think I quite understand.
If you want to use threads just for serving many pyramid apps in
single uwsgi process, you
Hi all!
I'm testdriving uwsgi to deploy Pyramid apps, and there's something I
don't think I quite understand.
First of all, I find its ability to run Pyramid natively through
paste.deploy (via --paster option) excellent as it removes the need for
.wsgi interface module. With that, Pyramid
Hi, thanks for your reply.
Python threads ARE mapped 1:1 to os threads. The GIL is only a pthread_mutex
governing object access (obviously, i am speaking about a pthread-based
implementation, that is the case for Linux/BSD/Solaris)
My understanding was wrong then, but what you say makes
It's not the question of well-formedness but the difference between
HTML and XHTML. XHTML must comply to XML formatting rules (for example,
self-closing tags) because it is essentially XML with HTML namespace (as
default), HTML has no such requirement, but is backward compatible
with XHTML
Which is in my view exactly the power of Pyramid. By combining libs that
do one job and do it well (like in The UNIX Way), one can build an
application with Pyramid which is far, far more advanced at given
task(s) than any full-stack solution limited only to what its stack is
mandating.
Hi all!
In my Pyramid app I want to implement an event system, basically for
plugins to hook to various events that raise in the life of the
application. These events are each different, some allow one hook (by
raising an exception if another hook tries to register for same event),
some
Ah, great, excellent, I totally forgot about this... thought they were
limited to Pyramid configuration only and failed to re-read the docs
properly. Except I don't see a way how to enforce single handler for
particular events, and raise if multiple subscribers exist. Track count
with a
No they're not the same. I'm developing a complex app based on Pyramid
and I love the fact that Pyramid is lightweight and not assuming things.
It allows me to:
1. choose peppercorn + colander to validate multilevel forms (forms that
are not flat key-value pairs but complex hierarchies),
Hi!
I'd like to implement clean locale-aware URLs, meaning no _LOCALE_ in
params, cookies, or similar. For example, route:
/en/page/{id}
What are your thoughts on how I should implement this. As I see it, my
options are
1. Write a tween or something that parses the URL before the router
Awesome, excellent changes, many thanks and congrats to the devs!
Question: is departure from Paste and PasteScript permanent? Is it a
long term goal to depart from PasteDeploy as well in the future
versions? I don't have anything against Paste* libs, of course, just
asking because I
Hello all!
What is the recommended way to fetch registry (settings) for read only
outside of the view (where request object is not available)? I was
looking at the threadlocal.get_current_registry() but the docs say it
should not be used except maybe in unit tests.
I understand that the
be called
in views, or command line scripts (using pyramid.paster.bootstrap),
etc... It requires admin address and smpt server data given in the
config files.
Thanks!
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On 12/01/2011 05:42 PM, Chris McDonough wrote:
On Thu, 2011-12-01 at 17:30 +0100, Vlad K. wrote:
Hello all
Hi, thanks for your feedback.
It's just a matter of the separation of concerns. The code I need it in
is confined to the model, defined in a pluggable model module. It's
not that I can't redesign the chain of calls in order to pass the
request object around, I was just looking at feasible
Yes it actually works if I use session.flush() instead of
transaction.commit() within the subtransaction. So I guess
transaction.commit() and transaction.abort() close the entire
transaction unlike session.commit() which when matched against
session.begin_nested() releases the savepoint but
According to my tests it is, or at least the end result is savepoint
release being emitted before final commit. For this code:
sp = transaction.savepoint()
... do something
session.flush()
sp2 = transaction.savepoint()
... do something
session.flush()
# Oops,
Okay, I guess I have fixed it. I say I guess because the solution
between my app and a simple test scenario is different. The new test
scenario is here:
https://gist.github.com/1366878
Basically the same as before, but now you can vary between using
Transaction or SQLAlchemy directly
Sure, I'll whip something up.
Thanks.
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On 11/14/2011 06:01 AM, Chris McDonough wrote:
I hate to ask, but would it be possible to concoct a short Python script
that creates a SQLA DBSession (with the ZopeTransactionExtension
enabled) that issues transaction.commit/savepoint/abort
() connection.
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On 11/14/2011 12:04 PM, Vlad K. wrote:
Sure, I'll whip something up.
Thanks.
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On 11/14/2011 06:01 AM, Chris McDonough wrote:
I hate to ask, but would it be possible to concoct a short Python script
that creates a SQLA DBSession
or relationship() connection.
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On 11/14/2011 12:04 PM, Vlad K. wrote:
Sure, I'll whip something up.
Thanks.
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On 11/14/2011 06:01 AM, Chris McDonough wrote:
I hate to ask, but would it be possible to concoct a short Python
script
that creates a SQLA DBSession
...
Thanks! ;)
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On 11/14/2011 07:50 PM, Chris McDonough wrote:
On Mon, 2011-11-14 at 13:41 +0100, Vlad K. wrote:
Here:
https://gist.github.com/1363860
This simple test case works just fine, meaning the problem is somewhere
in my application. As you can see from the code, I tried both
.
Thanks!
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On 11/14/2011 09:27 PM, Chris McDonough wrote:
On Mon, 2011-11-14 at 21:14 +0100, Vlad K. wrote:
Because each savepoint must be met by one commit or one rollback. If I
use session.flush(), the second call would start savepoint 2, but would
not release savepoint 1 (nor roll
How dumb of me for not trying that... thanks! It seems it also works for
transaction.abort(), except that invalidates previous session altogether.
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On 11/13/2011 08:44 AM, Malthe Borch wrote:
On 12 November 2011 01:07, Vlad K.v...@haronmedia.com wrote:
Is it possible to have
transaction but it fails with:
TransactionFailedError: An operation previously failed, with traceback
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On 11/13/2011 01:37 PM, Vlad K. wrote:
How dumb of me for not trying that... thanks! It seems it also works
for transaction.abort(), except that invalidates previous session
altogether
I do, but that doesn't help. If I use transaction.abort() it seems that
entire transaction is aborted. If I use savepoint.rollback()
(savepoint being given by transaction.savepoint()) I get
InvalidSavepointRollbackError.
The SQLAlchemy manual suggests that for each session.being_nested()
Hi, thanks for joining us here. :)
Yes, zope.transaction does indeed support savepoints:
somesavepoint = transaction.savepoint()
And indeed I can see it being emitted in the SQL debug output:
2011-11-13 15:59:57,895 INFO [sqlalchemy.engine.base.Engine][worker 0]
SAVEPOINT sa_savepoint_1
Hi all!
Is it possible to have multiple transactions within a request, and how
to start new one after transaction.commit() is manually invoked?
But maybe I'm asking wrong question. What I'm trying to do is
database-based process locking. A request must check for this lock
(basically a
I have apps that solve the same problem and I rely on IntegrityError. I
simply catch it and return the information to the user that the username
is already taken. Someone else here suggested you should check if the
username exists first, but that is not as good a solution. What if
another
Hi!
I'm using the WebTest package for functional tests with
webtest.TestApp(...), providing the POST params as dictionary to
webtest.TestApp.post(). The values in the dictionary are unicode (u
strings), and the test script has proper encoding given via #-*-
coding:UTF-8 -*- as first line.
Hi.
Meanwhile I've forced all values through a central dictionary
constructing method that forces values into unicode object type right
before posting and does:
for k,v in params:
params[k] = unicode(v).encode(UTF-8)
That along with content_type set to application/x-www-form-urlencode;
What Pyramid version you're running? There has been a change in the way
middleware is included, I believe as of 1.2., it now uses
pyramid.includes entry in the INIs. However, I _don't_ know if the old
way via [pipeline:main] is still acceptable, or if this makes any
difference since you say
I recommend you start with clean setup.py and
development/production.inis from 1.2 and then fill it up with your
config. Also good thing to watch the changelog for (breaking) changes. I
also recommend you lock the libs to specific version your app is tested
against, ie. don't use = but ==
Hi.
I have a Pyramid application that uses colander for form validation, and
I don't know how to set its locale. I have:
* set pyramid.default_locale_name = hr_HR.utf8 in
development|production.ini
* set locale.setlocale(locale.LC_ALL, hr_HR.utf8) at the beginning of
app's __init__.py
Yes:
config.add_translation_dirs('colander:locale/')
It seems I lack basic understanding of using locales. I tried this quick
test and I don't get error in Croatian. Could me the .po .mo files are
invalid? Those are directly supplied from Poedit, editing the
colander.pot file.
import
Okay, but let's forget my translations for a moment. Say I wish to use
colander like in the test example for any of the locales already present
in colander package, for example de_DE. What do I need to do? Because I
can't get any of them to work.
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On 09/22/2011 01:13 PM, Chris
No I don't use deform. I use peppercorn to parse POST but that's on the
other side of the pattern. :)
My problem is using colander directly. I don't know how to make it
output translated error strings in any of the provided locales, let
alone doing that from Pyramid. Seems I need to setup
02:21 PM, Chris McDonough wrote:
On Thu, 2011-09-22 at 13:45 +0200, Vlad K. wrote:
Okay, but let's forget my translations for a moment. Say I wish to use
colander like in the test example for any of the locales already present
in colander package, for example de_DE. What do I need to do? Because I
I have a question about deploying a Pyramid app to multiple application
servers. My personal preference is to check out the code from SVN
directly into production, but that's not the issue here. The virtualenv
and dependencies are the issue.
Some deps come with extensions that need to be
Just installed 1.2 (b2) for the first time and just wanted to say that
the debug toolbar is AWESOME! Congrats to the dev team!
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On 09/08/2011 11:52 PM, Chris McDonough wrote:
Pyramid 1.2b2 has been released. The changes from 1.2b1 are as
follows:
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I take latest SVN revision number from local .svn dir entries
automatically upon application start, put it in settings, and use that,
for instance as:
example.com/static/js/foobar.js?rev=${settings[svn_revision]}
I use global revision number, but it is possible to monitor the rev of
only
Just a quick observation regarding static routes. Is static really a
good name here? IMHO a static route is something that never changes,
as opposed to dynamic route:
/foo/bar is a static route
/foo/{bar} is a dynamic one
Perhaps the term should be a void route? A route that is never
It's not just the problem of hardcoded groups. Default authn
implementation with AuthTkt uses a groupfind callback which effectively
defines the group per request, and that would be the right place to
pull data from db (based on authenticated_userid).
Not being happy with it, I rolled my
Experimental, hypothetical question: If I wanted two logically
separate parts of the same application (sharing same resources) to run
as two separate WSGI apps (say, by mapping different sub-domains to two
distinctive .wsgi interface files), are there any (non-)obvious traps in
this?
Of
On 06/26/2011 08:18 PM, Chris McDonough wrote:
This is actually not quite true. See http://plope.com/peppercorn (which
might be something you'd want to use).
Yes, I wrongly accused MultiDict of being unordered, so I ran through
the source to see how it works. And indeed, peppercorn is
Thanks for your reply, but the problem is there is no
request.POST(var), there is request.POST(var[foo]) and at that point
I don't know all the possible values of foo. I solved with with a
custom extraction function.
While I'm at it, though, I wonder how others are solving the same
I guess this has probably been asked before, but Google did not return
anything meaningful.
My question is what would be the best way to supply POST vars in PHP
notation, that would be converted to a dictionary (in Pyramid):
var[foo]=123 - becomes request.POST[var][foo] with value 123
On 06/24/2011 07:21 PM, Chris McDonough wrote:
If you mean you want to be able to do if perm in all_perms, where
all_perms is some sort of list or dict provided by Pyramid (and not
just an object with a __contains__ wrapper, as I provided before), I'm
afraid it's not going to fly.
Yes, I see
pyramid.security.has_permission() takes three params, the 'context' of
which is redundant for URL dispatch apps with no non-default context
(isn't it?). In templates, we often display various UI parts depending
on the permissions the user has. For instance:
% if has_permission(admin,
On 06/24/2011 03:32 PM, Chris McDonough wrote:
If you never use the factory= or traverse= arguments to to add_route and
you never use *traverse in a URL pattern, it will always be the default
context. But it isn't always the default context.
My point is that the context parameter ( of
user
group upon each request?
Thanks,
Vlad
On 03/24/2011 06:54 PM, Vlad K. wrote:
I'm slightly confused regarding the trio of
AuthTktAuthenticationPolicy, its groupfinder callback and the
pyramid.security.remember() function.
First of all, I don't quite understand the kw params
I'm slightly confused regarding the trio of AuthTktAuthenticationPolicy,
its groupfinder callback and the pyramid.security.remember() function.
First of all, I don't quite understand the kw params of the remember()
function. If those params are app specific, where can they be read and
used
Yes, that much I understood from the documentation, but for example this
is from the pyramid.security documentation:
headers = remember(request, 'chrism', password='123', max_age='86400')
From which I gather that password and max_age are the kw params where
meaning of **kw must be
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