Re: [pylons-discuss] [off-topic] The Case Against Python 3

On Thu, Nov 24, 2016 at 11:27 AM, Mike Orr wrote: > I have a friend who teaches Python to beginners and uses it for > scientific programming, so I'll see what he says. > [He] does complain about how Python 3 forces the > separation of strings and bytes: why not leave it as

Re: [pylons-discuss] [off-topic] The Case Against Python 3

Here is another feedback about Zed's article: https://eev.ee/blog/2016/11/23/a-rebuttal-for-python-3/ Regards, Thierry 2016-11-24 20:54 GMT+01:00 Mike Orr : > It also reminds me of the switch to the metric system. The reason > Americans are adverse to it is that it was

Re: [pylons-discuss] [off-topic] The Case Against Python 3

It also reminds me of the switch to the metric system. The reason Americans are adverse to it is that it was taught in school in the 1970s as a bunch of obscure conversion functions. A meter is 39 inches. A kilometer is 5/6 of a mile. A centimeter is tiny compared to an inch; look at a ruler. A

Re: [pylons-discuss] [off-topic] The Case Against Python 3

I have a friend who teaches Python to beginners and uses it for scientific programming, so I'll see what he says. The biggest holdup in Python 3 adoption has been third-party dependencies, especially for applications that use a lot of them. Pyramid has a lot of dependencies because it was designed

Re: [pylons-discuss] [off-topic] The Case Against Python 3

https://eev.ee/blog/2016/11/23/a-rebuttal-for-python-3/ I will be the first to admit that I at one point looked up to Zed, he was always coming out with some new piece of software, iterating quickly, and sure he used to yell at communities and projects, but in general they actually contained

Re: [pylons-discuss] [off-topic] The Case Against Python 3

Community seems to agree and did not like this behavior. On Reddit /r/python and /r/learnpython has removed links to Zed's tutorials. While Zed is a respected community member and has done a lot of hard work for making Python available especially for newcomers, he might be have been little bit

Re: [pylons-discuss] [off-topic] The Case Against Python 3

I can literally +1 *all* of the previous replies. Sent from a phone, please excuse the brevity. > On 24 Nov 2016, at 15:08, John Anderson wrote: > > For the last 2 years every project I've worked on has been Python3 only. At > SurveyMonkey we had ~60 different services and

Re: [pylons-discuss] [off-topic] The Case Against Python 3

For the last 2 years every project I've worked on has been Python3 only. At SurveyMonkey we had ~60 different services and ported all shared code between them to Python3 four years ago and started shipping production Python3 two years ago. It is a much better language and it really annoys me

Re: [pylons-discuss] [off-topic] The Case Against Python 3

Transition could have been better handled, but Python 3 is great once you get over. Chris On Thu, Nov 24, 2016 at 8:25 AM, Thierry Florac wrote: > Perfectly agree with previous comments! > I can't estimate the theory behind Turing machines and so on. But on a > practical

Re: [pylons-discuss] [off-topic] The Case Against Python 3

Perfectly agree with previous comments! I can't estimate the theory behind Turing machines and so on. But on a practical point of view, I worked for a long time with Python 2 and Zope 3 and had to upgrade all my private packages to use them with Python 3 (starting with Python 3.) and Pyramid: the

Re: [pylons-discuss] [off-topic] The Case Against Python 3

Has the same taste as the recent election campaign. Start with extraordinary and alarming, but totally false and uneducated claims ("Python 3 is not Turing complete", "you can't run Python 2 and Python 3 along with each other" etc.) and conclude that we should revert everything and do things

Re: [pylons-discuss] [off-topic] The Case Against Python 3

It's just really funny that this was written at the precise moment I feel like the library-support inflection point has been reached and I can start doing everything in python 3. In my experience python 3 is also definitely a better language. On Thu, Nov 24, 2016 at 09:03:51AM -0200, Vinicius

Re: [pylons-discuss] [off-topic] The Case Against Python 3

Bullshit. All new works I have been working are Python 3 based and Python 3 is much better language to work with. Due to natural change resistance in human beings, a very well studied psychological effect, you always find people who go to great lengths to resist a change. There will be always

[pylons-discuss] [off-topic] The Case Against Python 3

Hey guys. As Pyramid was the first framework supporting Python 3, what do you think about this position? https://learnpythonthehardway.org/book/nopython3.html What are your experiences regarding Python 3 as broken? -- Vinicius Assef -- You received this message because you are subscribed to