in the User Contributions -
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Hi Mike,
These look really good! I'm sure people will find them useful.
Thanks for your support. Your messages helped point the way for me a
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spell them as I naturally would, and send complainers a
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I see that DocumentRoot is a directory where, I think, the pylons egg
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does have access to those. The other
ones I encountered (session management, URL resolver) are outside
Cheetah's scope. Is there anything else that might be worth adding to
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Cheetah does not have an equivalent of Myghty's 'fragment' argument so
I patched TurboCheetah.cheetahsupport to add a variable
'_buffet_fragment' alongside the Pylons globals. site.tmpl uses #if
not $_buffet_fragment to decide whether to output
(the_controller), which would change every request.
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PS. The Durus article is done too, and a bit more sophistocated than
what I posted yesterday. (same URL)
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3) User-defined middleware. This is what make_app() is for.
We can prepopulate it with suggested middleware in comments. The
transaction logger comes to mind. I would even list popular
third-party components like AuthKit; that would give
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I read it yesterday. Took an hour and a few cups of tea but it was worth it.
;)
You did a great work researching and explaining python stack of modern web
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I made a wiki page under CodeRecipes describing the various ways to
access data from the config file. Are there any better ways not
listed?
http://pylonshq.com/project/pylonshq/wiki/CodeRecipes/ExtractingConfigurationData
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, #break, and
#continue.
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Webware knocked Zope off the throne, CherryPy knocked Webware (with
help from Quixote), TG knocked CherryPy, Django and TG are
neck-in-neck now, who knows who will be top dog next year?
I'm not sure I'd agree about TG
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Webware knocked Zope off the throne, CherryPy knocked Webware (with
help from Quixote), TG knocked CherryPy, Django
choice. Watch out for high
memory usage in SQLite with large or search-intensive databases.
MySQL is optimized for read speed, but you have to use the non-default
InnoDB type if you want transactions.
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Forwarded at Christoph Haas's suggestion, to discuss what we want in
this tutorial and in Pylons tutorials generally.
Some of the points I raise below have already been corrected by Christoph.
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- Models do not contain any information about the meaning of this
data. What do you mean by 'meaning'? The model *does* know the meaning
of the data, that's its purpose. If you have
)
It looks like Pylons is out of sync with Paste.
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install the egg properly (which I'm only half convinced
is worthwhile), there will be no setup.py on the server.
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places?Where's the other place?
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and just use utf-8 everywhere, both for the
database and for HTML output. The only time I use a different
encoding is when parsing an external file, which may come in macroman
or windows-1252.
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have a module-level connection so I restart them every 12
hours. Having connections that automatically get recreated after a
few hours is my main motivation for moving to SQLAlchemy.
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to do that, perhaps % import ... %.
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Page Title'
But again, my main problem is the variables being undefined in the
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I have a page template that inherits a site template. I've set
several 'c' attributes in Pylons, and ${var} in the page template
renders them fine, but they're undefined in the site template
and /MISSING.jpg (which both
don't exist), and the second iteration reaches logging stage but the
first doesn't.
Is there a config var to limit the httpserver to one thread?
Attached are my changes to translogger.py r6236 .
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-- or their successors -- need to be
integrated into Python.
As to whether Python is delving into areas belonging to package
managers, Perl has had CPAN for over a decade and it's widely
acclaimed, and people chided Python for years for not having something
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the message in a cookie. It also deletes the previuos cookie.
Heh, you and I have exactly the same use case, and I'm the one that
brought this problem up. I'm happy to see that this is going to get
easier :)
I just put a message in the session for the next request to pick up.
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in the Python core via a list-interpolation
syntax. I haven't heard this, but considering how hard it's been to
get the much more urgent NumPy Array into the core, it sounds
unlikely.
What's this groovy XML library Eckel is so excited about?
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be a lot more shifting
realities to document, which may make it difficult to figure out what
applies to your version.
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AFAIK there is a plan to write a more complete handbook for Pylons at
http://pylonshq.com/project/pylonshq/wiki/DocLayoutProposals
I added
the application modules.
This may also affect the suggestion by somebody to move non-middleware
from middleware.py to environment.py.
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there's the hassle of reinstalling it in
case its dependencies have changed.
So there's not really one way to do it.
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a firewall. :)
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option, upgrade-dependencies,
etc. Then it will be easier to upgrade a site with one command.
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${project} and ${package} with the package name.
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). But there are
other things they seem to handle in an ad-hoc manner that paster
provides for us, like the application startup file.
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are handled). Is there a way to do this??
You can put it in the base template .__call__ method:
if not_logged_in:
redirect_to_login()
if insufficient privilege:
abort(401, You're outta here, bozo.) # In pylons.helpers
return WSGIController.__call__(self, environ, start_response)
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into the model is easier. Dabo uses its own
db-unifying code according to my quick glance at the site. Of course
you can just use Dabo's UI portion with SQLAlchemy.
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service, but rejected those as too complicated and
error-prone, especially since the laptops are in the hands of naive
users we can't support long-distance.
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For the HTTP server I've set it to use Cherrypy which seems to
work really well,
Does it have any particular advantages over Paste's HTTP server?
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abort(404)
By the way, I prefer to explicitly mention the template engine so
there's no confusion on the part of either Pylons or the programmer:
render_response(genshi, mydir.mytemplate)
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://127.0.0.1:5000;. This is an invalid URL even though Pylons
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On 4/2/07, Ben Bangert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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This is probably a Pylons problem rather than Routes. I have a
routing rule like this:
map.connect(glossary, /glossary/:page, controller=main,
action=glossary, page=index
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This rule doesn't work:
map.connect(glossary_term, /glossary/:page#:term, controller=main,
action=glossary, page=index)
sre_constants.error: bad character in group name
to parse the config and set up the environment manually? I don't
want the scripts all mixed in a global bin directory where I can't
tell which one goes with which application.
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keyword.
This works great, thanks.
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/inews.jpg)
map.connect(missing_incident_image, /images/no_incident_image.jpg)
map.connect(meatball, /images/meatball.png)
Should these have the _static argument?
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exists in all cases, and then calling:
self.__postprocess_response(self, resp)
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the developers sharing source code or the users who need to use their
model and configuration in the other system.
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Great idea. Pylons definitely needs a database administration tool.
My main concern is about basing it on the ORM layer rather than
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into it.
[1] http://cheeseshop.python.org/pypi/workingenv.py/
Installing the same package at the OS level and easy_install'ing it
could lead to version skew, since Python sometimes adds eggs to
sys.path in a different order than you'd like.
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some globals.
middleware.py and environment.py are good places. If you need a
config value, access it directly rather than going through the
globals. At the beginning of middleware.make_app() I have a function
call fix_app_conf(app_conf) that validates the options and converts
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setup.py should be fine (though you may want to fill in the text
fields).
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'pkg_resources.require(PasteScript==1.1)', but I guess the
dependency was specified in the egg somehow.
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, and this ends up in a 404. Instead of calling up the
same link it calls:
http://localhost:5000/home/home/home/
adding a home for every time I click on the link. Could you tell me
what I´m doing wrong Ben?
Could it be because you have Home/:action instead of /Home/:action?
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for some reason, or are they all interchangeable?
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path in the second app's config file, which I
share between different computers.
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redirect_to(entry, entry_id=entry_id)
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overhead than daemontools, though I
don't know if it really is significant.
I have a few weeks to beta test the application, so I can try it out.
I'd also rather use something built into Paste than installing another
third-party application that overlaps with it.
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because the engine checks out connections
from a pool, and even though the session context ostensibly creates a
new engine with each session, it's still really the same engine
anyway, even if I use t1c or Class1.c in a function that has a
different current session.
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cumbersome, and
it's certainly strange to have an externally-called init function that
initializes module globals.
http://www.sqlalchemy.org/docs/tutorial.html#tutorial_orm
It's still the same steps, it's that pylons.database does some of it for you.
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Use this one. The way to set up the model is still evolving, but this
is the closest to the emerging standard
of MySQL.
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is being deleted and overwritten every time the
server starts. How can I fix these? I'm running with the Paster
daemonizer and logfile setting, via an executable production.ini.
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My app can find paste.deploy.CONFIG['sqlalchemy.echo_pool'] when run
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CONFIG['app_conf']['sqlalchemy.echo_pool'] under 'paster serve'. Yet
myapp
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version. We should probably do the same.
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already in use error
when you start the program again, so you have to hunt down the threads
and kill them. Often they refuse to die and you have to kill -9 them.
It happens in some Linux distributions and not others, so it's
something about the kernel or OS configuration.
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. The MySQL
specific charset option also is deprecated.
I suppose. I'm still holding on to use_unicode for now though. The
important thing is to use either convert_unicode or use_unicode.
The MySQL charset option wouldn't work for me at all; it didn't
recognize utf8 as a valid choice.
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in the Python logo but I didn't like some of the
previous logos and refused to wear T-shirts that had them. Quixote
has some windmill logos but what's so Quixote about them?
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There's an initial implementation of Smorgasbord, my rewrite of the
Buffet universal templating front end, at the Python Cheeseshop or
http
ones). It will also
scale to multiple engines along the lines of
sqlalchemy.engine_key.dburi. This code is very Pylons specific, or
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probably does a reasonably good job, but the factors
outside its control are the ones most likely to bite you, and these
should be looked at no matter whether you use AuthKit or some other
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I've added wiki pages to discuss the web site design, Pylons project
name, and pylonshq.com domain name.
http://docs.pythonweb.org/display/pylonscommunity/Home
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engine = ctx.current.bind_to
meta = BoundMetaData(engine)
table1 = Table(Table1, meta, ...)
class Class1(object):
pass
mapper = Class1, table1)
Sorry, that should be:
mapper(Class1, table1)
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remember that CherryPy 3 has Routes dispatcing as an option,
and sooner or later that will appear in TurboGears. So saying Pylons
is more advanced because it has Routes will probably sound lame by the
time Pylons 1.0 comes out.
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tired of reinventing the wheel,
and not as well as a team of experts in their specific field would.
To me the word toolkit, at least as it has been used, has this sense
of incompleteness.
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On 6/7/07, David Niergarth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Jun 6, 3:34 pm, Mike Orr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have a URL with a mandatory ID:
/incident/123
map.connect(incident, /incident/:orr_id, controller=incident,
action=index, requirements={orr_id: NUMERIC
at the QuickWiki tutorial. It does its own database
setup using paster setup-app my.ini. To answer your more high level
question, yes, setup-app is good to use :)
Happy Hacking!
-jj
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, voltron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thats a nice idea Mike, I would have to mange more content in the
lists but its a compromise. I intend ultimately to retrieve these
lists from a database as pickeld data, do you have any experience in
this nature?
Thanks
On Jun 12, 1:13 am, Mike Orr [EMAIL
I'd like the browser to cache this page and not bother the server
again for an hour or a day. Is etag_cache supposed to do this or do I
have to set the HTTP headers manually?
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says the
former, so watch out for that. With this I'm getting correct 304's,
Etags, and Cache-control on my static files, but it's still checking
the server each time.
So the caching isn't perfect but it's better than nothing, at least
part of the time.
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