On 31 ene, 00:24, Damjan gdam...@gmail.com wrote:
Damjan, and does ipython works from $PYTHONUSERBASE? because it
doesn't works on virtualenv. If if works then would be another great
advantage :)
Yes it works. I've just installed the distro version of ipython, and
it can import the
Previously Gael Pasgrimaud wrote:
Here it is:
http://www.gawel.org/howtos/howto-install-pylons-with-buildout
It might be useful to document using collective.recipe.modwsgi as well.
That makes it trivial to use pylons with mod_wsgi from a buildout
environment.
Wichert.
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On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 12:27 PM, Wichert Akkerman wich...@wiggy.net wrote:
Previously Gael Pasgrimaud wrote:
Here it is:
http://www.gawel.org/howtos/howto-install-pylons-with-buildout
It might be useful to document using collective.recipe.modwsgi as well.
That makes it trivial to use
Damjan, and does ipython works from $PYTHONUSERBASE? because it
doesn't works on virtualenv. If if works then would be another great
advantage :)
Yes it works. I've just installed the distro version of ipython, and
it can import the modules in my USERBASE, no problem.
So you don't even need
Why not package management system on the system like apt/yum/MacPorts?
For Pylons/TurboGears users, their system's package system would be
preferable to setuptools', because it's robost and easier to manage
their packages easily.
Because distro release cycles can't keep up with the rate of
Oh, this is the same as the per-user install directory?
http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0370/
I thought there could be only one site-packages per user, not multiple
ones per application.
yes, that's the feature, $PYTHONUSERBASE controls which environment
you are using, so you can have
Damjan, and does ipython works from $PYTHONUSERBASE? because it
doesn't works on virtualenv. If if works then would be another great
advantage :)
On 29 ene, 16:39, Damjan gdam...@gmail.com wrote:
Oh, this is the same as the per-user install
directory?http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0370/
On Jan 29, 10:16 am, Bernard Rankin beranki...@yahoo.com wrote:
Damjan, and does ipython works from $PYTHONUSERBASE? because it
doesn't works on virtualenv. If if works then would be another great
advantage :)
Ipython seems to work fine for me on virtualenv What about it does not
Here it is:
http://www.gawel.org/howtos/howto-install-pylons-with-buildout
Don't know if this doc have a place on pylonshq since the official way
to install pylons is with virtualenv.
On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 9:48 PM, Mike Orr sluggos...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 11:43 AM,
On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 12:55 PM, Gael Pasgrimaud g...@gawel.org wrote:
Here it is:
http://www.gawel.org/howtos/howto-install-pylons-with-buildout
Don't know if this doc have a place on pylonshq since the official way
to install pylons is with virtualenv.
It belongs in the Pylons Cookbook
On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 10:15 PM, Mike Orr sluggos...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 12:55 PM, Gael Pasgrimaud g...@gawel.org wrote:
Here it is:
http://www.gawel.org/howtos/howto-install-pylons-with-buildout
Don't know if this doc have a place on pylonshq since the official way
On 28/01/2009, at 6:40 PM, Noah Gift wrote:
. And the problems are different
on Windows vs Mac vs Linux, and App Engine adds another dimension.
At
work people say, Half the trouble of Pylons is installing it, and I
often have to help them install it in person because otherwise they
Hi,
I use zc.buildout to install/deploy my pylons apps.
Are you guys interested in a how to install Pylons with zc.buildout ?
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On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 7:14 PM, Ben Bangert b...@groovie.org wrote:
On Jan 27, 2009, at 10:20 PM, Eric Lemoine wrote:
I agree that it'd be good to have
On Jan 28, 10:31 am, Gael Pasgrimaud g...@gawel.org wrote:
Hi,
I use zc.buildout to install/deploy my pylons apps.
Are you guys interested in a how to install Pylons with zc.buildout ?
Yes, please.
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On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 11:43 AM, Wyatt Baldwin
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On Jan 28, 10:31 am, Gael Pasgrimaud g...@gawel.org wrote:
Hi,
I use zc.buildout to install/deploy my pylons apps.
Are you guys interested in a how to install Pylons with zc.buildout ?
Yes, please.
Ditto.
That's what Guido says, and it's why we're at an impasse. Distutils
is fine if you just need to download one or two packages and python
setup.py install them. But that doesn't scale when a package has a
dozen dependencies that recursively have dependencies. Without
Setuptools, Python and
On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 3:37 PM, Akira Kitada akit...@gmail.com wrote:
That's what Guido says, and it's why we're at an impasse. Distutils
is fine if you just need to download one or two packages and python
setup.py install them. But that doesn't scale when a package has a
dozen
On Jan 28, 4:06 pm, Mike Orr sluggos...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 3:37 PM, Akira Kitada akit...@gmail.com wrote:
[snip]
In production, I've gone to always using virtualenvs. That way if I
install a new website with different library versions, I don't have to
worry about
On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 8:45 PM, Wyatt Baldwin
wyatt.lee.bald...@gmail.com wrote:
On Jan 28, 4:06 pm, Mike Orr sluggos...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 3:37 PM, Akira Kitada akit...@gmail.com wrote:
[snip]
In production, I've gone to always using virtualenvs. That way if I
In production, I've gone to always using virtualenvs.
Python 2.6 now supports $PYTHONUSERBASE, just set it to a directory
(doesn't need to exist), for example:
export PYTHONUSERBASE=$HOME/mydev/
pip.py install FormAlchemy
Now I do have in ~/.pydistutils.cfg
[install]
user=True
It's similar
On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 7:21 PM, Mike Orr sluggos...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 7:07 PM, Damjan gdam...@gmail.com wrote:
In production, I've gone to always using virtualenvs.
Python 2.6 now supports $PYTHONUSERBASE, just set it to a directory
(doesn't need to exist), for
Just a few questions.
I hate to pass the buck, but this is Python's fault for not having
reliable package management built in. There's nothing Pylons can do
about it except switch to another programming language.
What programming language has a reliable package management system built in?
On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 1:40 PM, Akira Kitada akit...@gmail.com wrote:
Just a few questions.
I hate to pass the buck, but this is Python's fault for not having
reliable package management built in. There's nothing Pylons can do
about it except switch to another programming language.
What
Hi
I agree that it'd be good to have virtualenv shipped with Python. I
wish I did have to tell my Pylons application users to first download
virtualenv, dearchive it, extract virtualenv.py, etc.
Cheers,
Eric
2009/1/27, Mike Orr sluggos...@gmail.com:
On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 1:40 PM, Akira
. And the problems are different
on Windows vs Mac vs Linux, and App Engine adds another dimension. At
work people say, Half the trouble of Pylons is installing it, and I
often have to help them install it in person because otherwise they
get stuck at some error message and have no idea
From what you all say I think we do agree that it is not just a
superficial question of style. It goes beyond that, and there is a
price to pay -- and that the price is generally justifiable. And, as
Micheal eloquently states, given the looming horizon, the line taken
by pylons promises
On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 8:10 AM, Mario Ruggier ma...@ruggier.org wrote:
From what you all say I think we do agree that it is not just a
superficial question of style.
There are two aspects to the style. One is the philosophy of WSGI to
the core, and thus the choice of Paste as the first
I of course agree with Jorge's argument on the advantages of a non-
monolithic framework And yes of course that having different
components to install will naturally give rise to numerous
installation problems. But, it remains that that there were several
strange setuptools-related problems
On Jan 19, 2009, at 8:05 PM, Mike Orr wrote:
On Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 4:05 PM, walterbyrd walterb...@iname.com
wrote:
And if so, why?
Everybody who uses Pylons knows that other frameworks exist and had
maybe tried one or two others, but has made a conscious choice that
they like Pylons'
what a strange post. There are no unicode issues in WSGI, and the
usage of WSGI in the generic sense doesn't complicate things to any
degree - the spec is just a single function call.If there are Py3K
issues in Paste, lets first make it clear that *every* application
that deals explicitly
well put.
On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 10:05 AM, Michael Bayer zzz...@gmail.com wrote:
what a strange post. There are no unicode issues in WSGI, and the
usage of WSGI in the generic sense doesn't complicate things to any
degree - the spec is just a single function call.If there are Py3K
On Fri, 2009-01-23 at 07:05 -0800, Michael Bayer wrote:
The only price Pylons is paying is it assumes the developer would like
to consider how his application should be architected, instead of
those decisions being made implicitly and invisibly. This is a
cultural situation created by the
On Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 6:05 PM, walterbyrd walterb...@iname.com wrote:
And if so, why?
yes, so does php, your point?
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And if so, why?
Everybody who uses Pylons knows that other frameworks exist and had
maybe tried one or two others, but has made a conscious choice that
they like Pylons' style better. A lot of Django fans have done the
And if so, why?
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Yes.
And that's because if the same question is asked in a Django group,
you'll probably get far more similar trolls.
Jerry
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And if so, why?
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