Hi All,

The crash problem with some rate combinations of Radeon hardware and drivers
has been identified and eliminated.  Thanks to everyone who responded.  

This turned out to be an issue of the driver not completely flushing the
OpenGL pipeline before returning pixels from the display buffer.  The driver
got confused and was bringing down the whole system as a result.  The
problem goes away if we manually flush the pipeline before issuing any
glReadPixels calls.

Thus, it is one again safe to buy Mobility Radeon 9000 hardware for use with
PyMOL! (the latest beta has the patch http://delsci.com/beta ).

Cheers,
Warren


> -----Original Message-----
> From: pymol-users-ad...@lists.sourceforge.net 
> [mailto:pymol-users-ad...@lists.sourceforge.net] On Behalf Of 
> Warren DeLano
> Sent: Monday, September 13, 2004 8:34 PM
> To: pymol-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: [PyMOL] ATI Mobility Radeon 9000 Problems (?)
> 
> PyMOL Users,
> 
> A major PyMOL sponsor is having problems with the Mobility 
> Radeon 9000 chip on their Dell laptops under Windows XP.  I 
> am curious to know whether others have seen or are 
> encountering similar problems with this chipset.  The issue 
> is as follows:
> 
> When attempting to choose atoms using the mouse, either 
> picking or selecting, the system experiences a hard system 
> freeze and total loss of responsiveness, no blue-screen, no 
> mouse movement, no nothing.  The only recovery is a power-off 
> system reboot.  
> 
> Has anyone else experienced this behavior on identical or 
> related hardware?
> And if so, has anyone found a solution? such as a particular 
> driver upgrade or downgrade?  Or on the contrary, are there 
> plenty of people out there with Radeon 9000-based PCs running 
> PyMOL just fine?
> 
> Any information about experiences with Radeon 
> 8500-to-9200-based cards under Windows could be helpful.  
> However, please send feedback to me directly 
> mailto:war...@delsci.com in order to avoid unnecessary 
> technical traffic on the mailing list.  I will of course 
> summarize once the situation becomes clear.
> 
> Cheers,
> Warren
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> DeLano Scientific LLC
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> 
> 
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