Re: [Python-Dev] [NPERS] Re: a feature i'd like to see in python #2: indexing of match objects

2006-12-08 Thread Nick Coghlan
Fredrik Lundh wrote: Talin wrote: The original proposal was to make m[n] a synonym for m.group(n). group() is clearly map-like in its behavior. so have you checked what exception m.group(n) raises when you try to access a group that doesn't exist ? The KeyError vs IndexError

Re: [Python-Dev] [NPERS] Re: a feature i'd like to see in python #2: indexing of match objects

2006-12-08 Thread Alastair Houghton
On 7 Dec 2006, at 21:47, Josiah Carlson wrote: Alastair Houghton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 7 Dec 2006, at 02:01, Josiah Carlson wrote: Alastair Houghton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 7 Dec 2006, at 01:01, Josiah Carlson wrote: If we don't want slicing, or if prodicing a slice would produce

[Python-Dev] MSI being downloaded 10x more than all other files?!

2006-12-08 Thread Guido van Rossum
I looked through the python.org web stats (as I usually do when preparing for a keynote) and discovered that /ftp/python/2.5/python-2.5.msi is by far the top download -- 271,971 hits, more than 5x the next one, /ftp/python/2.5/Python-2.5.tgz (47,898 hits). Are these numbers real? (The byte counts

Re: [Python-Dev] MSI being downloaded 10x more than all other files?!

2006-12-08 Thread Scott Dial
Guido van Rossum wrote: What could cause this dramatic popularity of Python on Windows? You should ask yourself: 1) Where else can people grab Python on Windows? 2) Where else can people grab Python for [every other operating system]? Most distros are kind enough to provide their own mirror, I

Re: [Python-Dev] MSI being downloaded 10x more than all other files?!

2006-12-08 Thread Thomas Heller
Guido van Rossum schrieb: I looked through the python.org web stats (as I usually do when preparing for a keynote) and discovered that /ftp/python/2.5/python-2.5.msi is by far the top download -- 271,971 hits, more than 5x the next one, /ftp/python/2.5/Python-2.5.tgz (47,898 hits). Are these

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-checkins] MSI being downloaded 10x more than all otherfiles?!

2006-12-08 Thread Guido van Rossum
That was the month of October. If people believe these numbers are real, we're doing great!!! On 12/8/06, Fredrik Lundh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Guido van Rossum wrote: I looked through the python.org web stats (as I usually do when preparing for a keynote) and discovered that

Re: [Python-Dev] [NPERS] Re: a feature i'd like to see in python #2: indexing of match objects

2006-12-08 Thread Josiah Carlson
Alastair Houghton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 7 Dec 2006, at 21:47, Josiah Carlson wrote: If we were going to go with slicing, then it would be fairly trivial to include the whole match range. Some portion of the underlying structure knows where the start of group 2 is, and knows

Re: [Python-Dev] [NPERS] Re: a feature i'd like to see in python #2: indexing of match objects

2006-12-08 Thread Alastair Houghton
On 8 Dec 2006, at 16:38, Josiah Carlson wrote: My statement in the email you replied to above was to say that if we wanted it to return a group, then we could include subsequent .group (0) with the same semantics as the original match object. And my reply was simply to point out that that's

Re: [Python-Dev] MSI being downloaded 10x more than all otherfiles?!

2006-12-08 Thread Fredrik Lundh
Guido van Rossum wrote: That was the month of October. If people believe these numbers are real, we're doing great!!! 2.5 was of course released in september, so I assume that part of what you're seeing is simply tinkerers upgrading their existing installations. plotting weekly figures for

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-checkins] MSI being downloaded 10x more than all otherfiles?!

2006-12-08 Thread Josiah Carlson
On 12/8/06, Fredrik Lundh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: fwiw, I've seen a 2.5x ratio for my stuff over the last year; I've always assumed that most people on other platforms are simply getting their stuff from the vendor's standard repository. I've noticed a similar thing, but I've also

Re: [Python-Dev] MSI being downloaded 10x more than all other files?!

2006-12-08 Thread Kurt B. Kaiser
Scott Dial [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You should ask yourself: 1) Where else can people grab Python on Windows? 2) Where else can people grab Python for [every other operating system]? Most distros are kind enough to provide their own mirror, I would say that easily accounts for the

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-checkins] MSI being downloaded 10x more than all other files?!

2006-12-08 Thread Martin v. Löwis
Guido van Rossum schrieb: I looked through the python.org web stats (as I usually do when preparing for a keynote) and discovered that /ftp/python/2.5/python-2.5.msi is by far the top download -- 271,971 hits, more than 5x the next one, /ftp/python/2.5/Python-2.5.tgz (47,898 hits). Are these

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-checkins] MSI being downloaded 10x more than all otherfiles?!

2006-12-08 Thread Martin v. Löwis
Terry Reedy schrieb: How do the first two months downloads of 2.5.msi compare to 2.4.msi? It's actually publicly available: http://www.python.org/webstats/ Regards, Martin ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org

Re: [Python-Dev] MSI being downloaded 10x more than all other files?!

2006-12-08 Thread Martin v. Löwis
Thomas Heller schrieb: Also interesting are the hits for 64-bit windows Pythons: /ftp/python/2.5/python-2.5.amd64.msi (23192 hits) /ftp/python/2.5/python-2.5.ia64.msi (22523 hits) But maybe misleading, as well. People just don't understand Win64: the hardware guy told them they have 64-bits,

Re: [Python-Dev] MSI being downloaded 10x more than all other files?!

2006-12-08 Thread Martin v. Löwis
Martin v. Löwis schrieb: Have the ratios changed against past figures (too lazy to look them up now)? They did, but also because the statistics weren't updated correctly until recently. Qualifying a bit further: the last month that apparently had nearly correct statistics before September

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-checkins] MSI being downloaded 10x more than all other files?!

2006-12-08 Thread Mike Krell
I think this is Python's popularity. One factor is ready availability: normal users don't build Python from source. So Windows users download it from python.org, everybody else gets the binaries from the OS vendor. Another factor is that the ActiveState ActivePython distribution for Windows

Re: [Python-Dev] MSI being downloaded 10x more than all other files?!

2006-12-08 Thread Jordan Greenberg
Guido van Rossum wrote: Or have we just hit the jackpot? Hi all, I've been lurking the list for a while (fun to know what you py-devs are up too!) but for this I have to speak up and give congratulations. You're all doing amazing work, and I think thats being reflected in these numbers. I know I

[Python-Dev] help for a noob - version for a sharp ARM

2006-12-08 Thread David Boddie
On Fri Dec 8 08:07:16 CET 2006, Josiah Carlson wrote: a Fred fghaibach at comcast.net wrote: I'm looking for advice on stripping down Python for an SBC to run Numpy and Scipy. I have the following notes on the system We have code that requires recent versions of Numpy and Scipy.