Re: [Python-Dev] A Survey on Defect Management Practices in Free/Open Source Software

2007-04-04 Thread Anthony Baxter
On Wednesday 04 April 2007 14:44, Anu Gupta DCSA wrote: Dear Python Contributors, I seek help from designers, developers, testers,defect fixers,project managers or playing any other key role in Free/Open Source software development or maintenence in carrying out a study on practices and

Re: [Python-Dev] A Survey on Defect Management Practices in Free/Open Source Software

2007-04-04 Thread Georg Brandl
Anthony Baxter schrieb: On Wednesday 04 April 2007 14:44, Anu Gupta DCSA wrote: Dear Python Contributors, I seek help from designers, developers, testers,defect fixers,project managers or playing any other key role in Free/Open Source software development or maintenence in carrying out a

Re: [Python-Dev] A Survey on Defect Management Practices in Free/Open Source Software

2007-04-04 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Anthony Baxter writes: Just a random aside - is anyone else getting increasingly annoyed by these mass-mailed out survey requests from students? Annoyed, not particularly. Scared, yes: it's long been known that a field=FIELD is moribund when people start getting PhDs in FIELD for

Re: [Python-Dev] A Survey on Defect Management Practices in Free/Open Source Software

2007-04-04 Thread A.M. Kuchling
On Wed, Apr 04, 2007 at 04:07:18PM +1000, Anthony Baxter wrote: This one was at least personally addressed (well, to Python Contributors), which is a step ahead of most of them. What gets me is that such surveys are invalid because the respondents aren't randomly selected -- they're the

Re: [Python-Dev] A Survey on Defect Management Practices in Free/Open Source Software

2007-04-04 Thread skip
amk ... no one has analyzed it; they're just *accumulating* the data. amk It's stamp collecting as computer science. +1 QOTF. Skip ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe:

Re: [Python-Dev] A Survey on Defect Management Practices in Free/Open Source Software

2007-04-04 Thread Steve Holden
A.M. Kuchling wrote: On Wed, Apr 04, 2007 at 04:07:18PM +1000, Anthony Baxter wrote: This one was at least personally addressed (well, to Python Contributors), which is a step ahead of most of them. What gets me is that such surveys are invalid because the respondents aren't randomly

Re: [Python-Dev] A Survey on Defect Management Practices in Free/Open Source Software

2007-04-04 Thread Nick Coghlan
A.M. Kuchling wrote: On Wed, Apr 04, 2007 at 04:07:18PM +1000, Anthony Baxter wrote: This one was at least personally addressed (well, to Python Contributors), which is a step ahead of most of them. What gets me is that such surveys are invalid because the respondents aren't randomly

Re: [Python-Dev] About SSL tests

2007-04-04 Thread Facundo Batista
Martin v. Löwis wrote: I don't like it. I would rather rely on the private _handle member. If that ever gets changed, the test fails. I made it using _handle. Right now, we have test_socket_ssl.py using a local openssl and passing all the tests in all the buildbots, :D Thanks for your (you

Re: [Python-Dev] A Survey on Defect Management Practicesin Free/Open Source Software

2007-04-04 Thread Terry Reedy
Stephen J. Turnbull [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | This guy, however, has been at it for over a month, this is his fourth | (or so) mailing. I think an entry in the Mailman persona-non-grata | list may be appropriate. So would a letter/email to the chair of his/her

Re: [Python-Dev] test_socketserver flakey?

2007-04-04 Thread Guido van Rossum
FWIW, I've checked a fix into the trunk. The code was waiting half a second and assumign that the server thread was ready. This occasionally failed of course. I fixed it by using an event variable instead of a sleep call. Not sure if it's worth backporting, as it is only a race condition in the

Re: [Python-Dev] A Survey on Defect Management Practices in Free/Open Source Software

2007-04-04 Thread Brett Cannon
On 4/4/07, A.M. Kuchling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Apr 04, 2007 at 04:07:18PM +1000, Anthony Baxter wrote: This one was at least personally addressed (well, to Python Contributors), which is a step ahead of most of them. What gets me is that such surveys are invalid because the

Re: [Python-Dev] Distutils and -framework on MacOSX

2007-04-04 Thread Greg Ewing
Ronald Oussoren wrote: Could you create an example where adding -framework to the end of the command-line doesn't work? I'll see what I can do. -- Greg ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org

[Python-Dev] branch is frozen for release of 2.5.1c1 (and 2.5.1)

2007-04-04 Thread Anthony Baxter
Please stay out of the 2.5 branch unless you're one of the release team - I'm cutting 2.5.1c1 at the moment. There will be a 2.5.1 final next week, assuming all goes well. If you have an urgent bugfix you need in, please post here and get someone to approve it before the checkin! Thanks,