Re: [Python-Dev] Summary of Tracker Issues

2007-05-16 Thread Georg Brandl
Terry Reedy schrieb: Georg Brandl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | Terry Reedy schrieb: | How about asking a Python specific question, with answered filled in rather | that multiple choice selected: I would be willing to make up a bunch. And I would spend

Re: [Python-Dev] Summary of Tracker Issues

2007-05-16 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Georg Brandl writes: By requesting a registration form over and over, and recording all questions. A human would then answer them, which is easily done for 50 questions (provided that they are *not* targeted at experienced Python programmers, which shouldn't be done). We are not going to

Re: [Python-Dev] Summary of Tracker Issues

2007-05-16 Thread Aaron Brady
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:python- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stephen J. Turnbull ISTM you need one only question requiring human attention at a time, because once a spammer assigns a human (or inhuman of equivalent intelligence) to cracking you,

Re: [Python-Dev] Summary of Tracker Issues

2007-05-16 Thread Kristján Valur Jónsson
-Original Message- ISTM you need one only question requiring human attention at a time, because once a spammer assigns a human (or inhuman of equivalent intelligence) to cracking you, you're toast. I can't believe this is still profitable. It's either lucrative or fulfilling,

Re: [Python-Dev] Summary of Tracker Issues

2007-05-16 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Aaron Brady writes: ISTM you need one only question requiring human attention at a time, because once a spammer assigns a human (or inhuman of equivalent intelligence) to cracking you, you're toast. I can't believe this is still profitable. It's either lucrative or fulfilling,

Re: [Python-Dev] Summary of Tracker Issues

2007-05-16 Thread Aaron Brady
-Original Message- From: Stephen J. Turnbull [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 5:10 AM To: Aaron Brady Cc: 'Georg Brandl'; python-dev@python.org Subject: Re: [Python-Dev] Summary of Tracker Issues Aaron Brady writes: ISTM you need one only question

Re: [Python-Dev] Summary of Tracker Issues

2007-05-16 Thread Greg Ewing
Martin v. Löwis wrote: This question I could not answer, because I don't know what an orb is An orb is a sphere. -- Greg ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe:

Re: [Python-Dev] Summary of Tracker Issues

2007-05-16 Thread Steve Holden
Kristján Valur Jónsson wrote: -Original Message- ISTM you need one only question requiring human attention at a time, because once a spammer assigns a human (or inhuman of equivalent intelligence) to cracking you, you're toast. I can't believe this is still profitable. It's either

Re: [Python-Dev] Official version support statement

2007-05-16 Thread Steve Holden
Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: Terry Reedy writes: Stephen J. Turnbull [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | The impression that many people (including python-dev regulars) have | that there is a policy of support for both the current release | (2.5) and the

Re: [Python-Dev] Official version support statement

2007-05-16 Thread Nick Coghlan
Steve Holden wrote: In which case doesn't it make more sense to use the existing mechanism of PEP 356 (Release Schedule)? If something isn't listed in there (even without dates) then there are no current plans to release it, and that tells the reader everything they need to know. At the

Re: [Python-Dev] Official version support statement

2007-05-16 Thread Steve Holden
Nick Coghlan wrote: Steve Holden wrote: In which case doesn't it make more sense to use the existing mechanism of PEP 356 (Release Schedule)? If something isn't listed in there (even without dates) then there are no current plans to release it, and that tells the reader everything they

Re: [Python-Dev] Summary of Tracker Issues

2007-05-16 Thread Josiah Carlson
Talin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Terry Reedy wrote: My underlying point: seeing porno spam on the practice site gave me a bad itch both because I detest spammers in general and because I would not want visitors turned off to Python by something that is completely out of place and

Re: [Python-Dev] Summary of Tracker Issues

2007-05-16 Thread Martin v. Löwis
My underlying point: seeing porno spam on the practice site gave me a bad itch both because I detest spammers in general and because I would not want visitors turned off to Python by something that is completely out of place and potentially offensive to some. So I am willing to help us not

Re: [Python-Dev] Summary of Tracker Issues

2007-05-16 Thread Aahz
On Wed, May 16, 2007, Josiah Carlson wrote: I'm not sure how effective the question/answer stuff is, but a bit of javascript seems to be a good idea. Just for the record (and to few people's surprise, I'm sure), I am entirely opposed to any use of JavaScript. -- Aahz ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

Re: [Python-Dev] Summary of Tracker Issues

2007-05-16 Thread Anthony Baxter
On Thursday 17 May 2007, Aahz wrote: On Wed, May 16, 2007, Josiah Carlson wrote: I'm not sure how effective the question/answer stuff is, but a bit of javascript seems to be a good idea. Just for the record (and to few people's surprise, I'm sure), I am entirely opposed to any use of

Re: [Python-Dev] Summary of Tracker Issues

2007-05-16 Thread Andrew McNamara
Typically spammers don't go through the effort to do a custom login script for each different site. Instead, they do a custom login script for each of the various software applications that support end-user comments. So for example, there's a script for WordPress, and one for PHPNuke, and so

Re: [Python-Dev] Summary of Tracker Issues

2007-05-16 Thread Talin
Andrew McNamara wrote: Typically spammers don't go through the effort to do a custom login script for each different site. Instead, they do a custom login script for each of the various software applications that support end-user comments. So for example, there's a script for WordPress, and

Re: [Python-Dev] Summary of Tracker Issues

2007-05-16 Thread Andrew McNamara
However - once you knock these out, there is still a steady stream of what are clearly human generated spams. The mind boggles at the economics or desperation that make this worthwhile. Actually, it doesn't cost that much, because typically the spammer can trick other humans into doing their