Raymond Hettinger wrote:
[Martin v. Löwis]
I would object to their removal, though,
because it would hurt my sense of symmetry.
I wasn't going to propose removal. If everyone had
agreed that the operator in-place functions were
problematic, I was going to suggest moving their
docs to
Martin v. Löwis wrote:
Certainly, the doc string is wrong:
isub(a, b) -- Same as a -= b.
That's not quite the same - you would have to write
a = isub(a, b) -- Same as a -= b.
It seems a perfectly fine solution is simply to fix the docstring,
exactly like that:
a = isub(a, b) -- Same
Hey guys/gals
Summer of Code is ramping up. Every year the common complaint is that not
enough Python core projects get proposed by students, and of course a big
reason for that is often the only encouragement we offer prospective
students is a link to the PEP index.
So let's make this year
On Wed, 18 Mar 2009 at 16:56, Arc Riley wrote:
Summer of Code is ramping up. Every year the common complaint is that not
enough Python core projects get proposed by students, and of course a big
reason for that is often the only encouragement we offer prospective
students is a link to the PEP
2009/3/18 Arc Riley arcri...@gmail.com:
Hey guys/gals
Thanks for organizing this!
Summer of Code is ramping up. Every year the common complaint is that not
enough Python core projects get proposed by students, and of course a big
reason for that is often the only encouragement we offer
Hello Arc,
Arc Riley arcriley at gmail.com writes:
I've seen and heard that a lot of work is still needed on
http://svn.python.org
/view/python/trunk both during the 3.1 release cycle, optimization possible all
over the place.
Well, first, it's too late for 3.1, which will (should) be out
R. David Murray wrote:
How about improving 2to3? Seems like that could be an interesting,
challenging, useful, and rewarding project :).
Or the much requested 3to2 using the same tools.
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Terry Reedy tjreedy at udel.edu writes:
Or the much requested 3to2 using the same tools.
I didn't know there was such a request. I thought it was only a PyPy April fool.
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I've heard from four people that improving 2to3 would be a great project
(plus many more suggesting port X to Python 3 as project ideas).
Note the SoC timeline;
http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/program/google/gsoc2009/timeline
So maybe it won't work for 3.1, but perhaps 3.1.1? 3.2?
We
2009/3/18 Arc Riley arcri...@gmail.com:
I've heard from four people that improving 2to3 would be a great project
(plus many more suggesting port X to Python 3 as project ideas).
Ok. That's excellent.
Note the SoC timeline;
Hi,
There are some very interresting issues about long type optimization:
faster long multiplication
http://bugs.python.org/issue3944
Asymptotically faster divmod and str(long)
http://bugs.python.org/issue3451
Use 30-bit digits instead of 15-bit digits for Python integers.
Tav organized a challenge to prove that its simple idea could be used to write
a new restricted python module. Restart Python security is an huge project,
but also an interesting project.
http://tav.espians.com/a-challenge-to-break-python-security.html
http://wiki.python.org/moin/Security
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Note the SoC timeline;
http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/program/google/gsoc2009/timeline
So maybe it won't work for 3.1, but perhaps 3.1.1? 3.2?
Well, there won't be any major changes in 3.1.1, but 3.2 is definitely
open.
Cool, these are of course details you can work out
2009/3/18 Arc Riley arcri...@gmail.com:
Note the SoC timeline;
http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/program/google/gsoc2009/timeline
So maybe it won't work for 3.1, but perhaps 3.1.1? 3.2?
Well, there won't be any major changes in 3.1.1, but 3.2 is definitely
open.
Cool, these
On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 09:24:25PM +, Antoine Pitrou wrote:
- Rather than performance, I think some more interesting areas would be
related to
- some of the standard library modules. For instance, the unittest module could
- welcome some new features (test discovery, support for skipped
While working on the core is admirable, I think gsoc would provide an
opportunity to port important Python libraries to 3.x. It's important
to remember that doing ports helps the core immensely by uncovering
2to3 and py3k bugs.
Hello.
It's a very noble task to have important python
2009/3/18 Terry Reedy tjre...@udel.edu
R. David Murray wrote:
How about improving 2to3? Seems like that could be an interesting,
challenging, useful, and rewarding project :).
Or the much requested 3to2 using the same tools.
I'm not in a position to mentor this, but I too think this
On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 5:59 PM, Maciej Fijalkowski fij...@gmail.comwrote:
I think we need to ask first guys who spend their live maintaining
libraries instead of just proposing let's make some poor student port
it to py3k, but I might be just wrong, I don't know.
I agree. Part of Summer of
On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 14:56, Benjamin Peterson benja...@python.orgwrote:
2009/3/18 Arc Riley arcri...@gmail.com:
Note the SoC timeline;
http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/program/google/gsoc2009/timeline
So maybe it won't work for 3.1, but perhaps 3.1.1? 3.2?
Well,
2009/3/18 Arc Riley arcri...@gmail.com
On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 5:59 PM, Maciej Fijalkowski fij...@gmail.comwrote:
I think we need to ask first guys who spend their live maintaining
libraries instead of just proposing let's make some poor student port
it to py3k, but I might be just wrong, I
On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 6:13 PM, Brett Cannon br...@python.org wrote:
I would double-check Benjamin can do this since I don't think he will be
18 by the time GSoC starts. The FAQ at
http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/program/google/gsoc2009/faqs#mentor_eligibilityseems
to suggest it
Hey guys/gals
Summer of Code is ramping up. Every year the common complaint is that not
enough Python core projects get proposed by students, and of course a big
reason for that is often the only encouragement we offer prospective
students is a link to the PEP index.
So let's make this
As a project maintainer I wouldn't want an intern being the most familiar
person with our Py3 migration, I'd rather students stick with new features
or optimization and coordinate the migration process as a group-wide effort.
Without help, it is going to take a long time to get many
On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 6:26 PM, Raymond Hettinger pyt...@rcn.com wrote:
Without help, it is going to take a long time to get many packages
converted to 3.x.
I don't disagree, I just don't want to volunteer projects for something they
don't want.
Unless I misunderstand the situation, PIL
On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 7:23 PM, Daniel Fetchinson
fetchin...@googlemail.com wrote:
Hey guys/gals
Summer of Code is ramping up. Every year the common complaint is that not
enough Python core projects get proposed by students, and of course a big
reason for that is often the only
C. Titus Brown wrote:
On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 09:24:25PM +, Antoine Pitrou wrote:
- Rather than performance, I think some more interesting areas would be
related to
- some of the standard library modules. For instance, the unittest module
could
- welcome some new features (test
2009/3/18 Arc Riley arcri...@gmail.com:
On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 6:13 PM, Brett Cannon br...@python.org wrote:
I would double-check Benjamin can do this since I don't think he will be
18 by the time GSoC starts. The FAQ at
Benjamin Peterson schrieb:
2009/3/16 Brett Cannon br...@python.org:
At this point importlib is done for its public API for Python 3.1. That
means it's time to turn my attention to making sure the semantics of import
are well documented. But where to put all of the details? The language
IDLE needs lots of attention -- more than any one experienced person is
likely to have
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On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 7:53 PM, Terry Reedy tjre...@udel.edu wrote:
IDLE needs lots of attention -- more than any one experienced person is
likely to have
I've actually heard this from several people, IDLE on Py3 etc
Who would be a good person to mentor such a project?
Arc Riley wrote:
On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 5:59 PM, Maciej Fijalkowski fij...@gmail.com
mailto:fij...@gmail.com wrote:
I think we need to ask first guys who spend their live maintaining
libraries instead of just proposing let's make some poor student port
it to py3k, but I might
Antoine Pitrou wrote:
Terry Reedy tjreedy at udel.edu writes:
Or the much requested 3to2 using the same tools.
I didn't know there was such a request. I thought it was only a PyPy April fool.
Some of the people who need to support both late 2.x and 3.x would
prefer to write 3.x code and
Arc Riley wrote:
I've heard from four people that improving 2to3 would be a great project
(plus many more suggesting port X to Python 3 as project ideas).
Note the SoC timeline;
http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/program/google/gsoc2009/timeline
So maybe it won't work for 3.1, but
Terry Reedy tjreedy at udel.edu writes:
Some of the people who need to support both late 2.x and 3.x would
prefer to write 3.x code and backport. The OP of a current python-list
thread asked whether there was any way to write something like
@alias('__nonzero__')
def
Arc Riley wrote:
The process is as follows; we're compiling ideas for
http://wiki.python.org/moin/SummerOfCode/2009 and getting mentors signed up
at http://socghop.appspot.com/
Any chance that we can keep
http://wiki.python.org/moin/SummerOfCode/2009 light on markup? I
simply can't add a 'tidy
Feel free to email wi...@bluesock.org or me with your ideas if the markup is
difficult to work with. We've been on wiki duty all afternoon.
description, any specific skills they'll need (special library, compiler
theory, etc), what mentor should they talk to if they're interested.
The markup
2009/3/18 Antoine Pitrou solip...@pitrou.net:
class C() to class C(object)
__metaclass__ = type
Or even better: just inherit from object in 3.0 and 2.x. :)
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Summer of Code is ramping up. Every year the common complaint is that
not
enough Python core projects get proposed by students, and of course a big
reason for that is often the only encouragement we offer prospective
students is a link to the PEP index.
So let's make this year different.
On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 9:44 PM, Daniel Fetchinson
fetchin...@googlemail.com wrote:
Summer of Code is ramping up. Every year the common complaint is that
not
enough Python core projects get proposed by students, and of course a big
reason for that is often the only encouragement we offer
Summer of Code is ramping up. Every year the common complaint is that
not
enough Python core projects get proposed by students, and of course a
big
reason for that is often the only encouragement we offer prospective
students is a link to the PEP index.
So let's make this year different.
It seems Andrew will be doing What's new in Python 2.7? again, but
we don't seem to have a volunteer to do the 3.1 version? Would anyone
like to volunteer?
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Benjamin
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[Benjamin Peterson]
It seems Andrew will be doing What's new in Python 2.7? again, but
we don't seem to have a volunteer to do the 3.1 version? Would anyone
like to volunteer?
I'll pick-up this responsibility.
Raymond
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Hi all,
I'm continuing to (slowly) work through issues. I have been looking
particularly at a lot of the open issues regarding strftime.
It would be great to put in some of those extra status options that were
discussed recently...
Open/New
Needs help / Chatting
Under development
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