On Tue, 21 Sep 2010 20:16:52 -0400
Jack Diederich jackd...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 7:58 PM, Mark Lawrence breamore...@yahoo.co.uk
wrote:
I'm rather sad to have been sacked, but such is life. I won't be doing any
more work on the bug tracker for obvious reasons, but hope
On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 9:37 AM, Andrew McNamara
andr...@object-craft.com.au wrote:
Yeah, that's the original reasoning that had me leaning towards the
parallel API approach. If I seem to be changing my mind a lot in this
thread it's because I'm genuinely torn between the desire to make it
easier
On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 8:47 PM, Antoine Pitrou solip...@pitrou.net wrote:
Simply, situations like the above (Mark closing a bug just because
nobody would answer his message on a short delay) have happened
multiple times - despite people opposing, obviously -, and we decided
that it was better
On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 12:59 PM, Stephen J. Turnbull
step...@xemacs.org wrote:
Neil Hodgson writes:
Over time, the set of trail bytes used has expanded - in GB18030
digits are possible although many of the most important characters
for parsing such as ''' #%.?/''' are still safe as
On 9/21/2010 7:58 PM, Mark Lawrence wrote:
I'm rather sad to have been sacked, but such is life. I won't be doing
any more work on the bug tracker for obvious reasons, but hope that you
who have managed to keep your voluntary jobs manage to keep Python going.
Kindest regards.
Mark
On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 4:07 AM, Nick Coghlan ncogh...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 8:47 PM, Antoine Pitrou solip...@pitrou.net wrote:
Simply, situations like the above (Mark closing a bug just because
nobody would answer his message on a short delay) have happened
multiple times -
If you guys continue to make a public jury of this, no one else will want
to step into that role
On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 4:07 AM, Nick Coghlan ncogh...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 8:47 PM, Antoine Pitrou solip...@pitrou.net
wrote:
Simply, situations like the above (Mark
2010/9/22 Guido van Rossum gu...@python.org:
On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 4:07 AM, Nick Coghlan ncogh...@gmail.com wrote:
A number of lingering issues that would have otherwise continued
lingering did indeed get closed. That work is still appreciated, even
if it was ultimately deemed by the other
On 22/09/2010 15:33, dar...@ontrenet.com wrote:
If you guys continue to make a public jury of this, no one else will want
to step into that role
One of the perhaps-downsides of projects with an open community and open
development processes is that any dirty-laundry there might be tends
On Sep 22, 2010, at 7:17 AM, Guido van Rossum wrote:
Where was the decision to revoke privileges discussed? Not on any
mailing list that I am subscribed to.
It was on IRC.
Was Mark given an ultimatum?
I sent him a nicely worded email. The tracker privs were set back
to the normal level
Guido van Rossum writes:
I would recommend that in the future more attention is paid to
documenting publicly that someone's being booted out was
inevitable, by an exchange of messages on python-dev (or
python-committers if we want to limit distribution). And no, I
don't think that IRC
On Thu, 23 Sep 2010 00:29:23 +0900
Stephen J. Turnbull step...@xemacs.org wrote:
Guido van Rossum writes:
I would recommend that in the future more attention is paid to
documenting publicly that someone's being booted out was
inevitable, by an exchange of messages on python-dev (or
On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 8:29 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull step...@xemacs.org wrote:
Guido van Rossum writes:
I would recommend that in the future more attention is paid to
documenting publicly that someone's being booted out was
inevitable, by an exchange of messages on python-dev (or
Hi all,
I'm planning to make some smallish changes to logging in Python 3.2, please see
http://plumberjack.blogspot.com/2010/09/improved-queuehandler-queuelistener.html
If you're interested, I'd be grateful for any feedback you can give.
Regards,
Vinay Sajip
Given that this came out rather unfortunately (even if the end result
is the best that could have happened) I would recommend that in the
future more attention is paid to documenting publicly that someone's
being booted out was inevitable, by an exchange of messages on
python-dev (or
Dear Python Devs,
I am hoping to gain feedback on an ISO C1X/C++ standard library
proposal I hope to submit. It consists of a rationale
(http://mallocv2.wordpress.com/) which shows how growth in RAM
capacity is exponentially outgrowing the growth in RAM access speed.
The consequences are
Usual disclaimer: I am not a python-dev, just a lurker who sticks his 2c in
sometimes...
On 22Sep2010 07:17, Guido van Rossum gu...@python.org wrote:
| On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 4:07 AM, Nick Coghlan ncogh...@gmail.com wrote:
| On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 8:47 PM, Antoine Pitrou solip...@pitrou.net
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 1:54 AM, Vinay Sajip vinay_sa...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
Hi all,
I'm planning to make some smallish changes to logging in Python 3.2, please
see
http://plumberjack.blogspot.com/2010/09/improved-queuehandler-queuelistener.html
If you're interested, I'd be grateful for
On 22/09/2010 16:44, Guido van Rossum wrote:
On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 8:29 AM, Stephen J. Turnbullstep...@xemacs.org wrote:
Guido van Rossum writes:
I would recommend that in the future more attention is paid to
documenting publicly that someone's being booted out was
inevitable,
On 9/22/2010 6:47 AM, Antoine Pitrou wrote:
There was a whole python-dev thread some time (weeks? months?) ago where
several of us already tried to suggest more fruitful ways of
contributing, suggestions which weren't received very welcomingly AFAIR.
There were two types of criticisms and
Yikes - Mark has done terrific work in some very demanding areas,
I'd hate to see him feel unwelcome. So that's my advice: find a way
to smooth this over. You're welcome ;-)
[Guido]
...
I understand the desire to keep dirty laundry in. I would like to keep
it in too. Unfortunately the
On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 5:18 PM, Tim Peters tim.pet...@gmail.com wrote:
Yikes - Mark has done terrific work in some very demanding areas,
I'd hate to see him feel unwelcome. So that's my advice: find a way
to smooth this over. You're welcome ;-)
[Guido]
...
I understand the desire to
On Wed, 22 Sep 2010 19:18:35 -0400, Terry Reedy tjre...@udel.edu wrote:
On 9/22/2010 6:47 AM, Antoine Pitrou wrote:
Now I understand that opinions over this may vary and involve multiple
factors, but I would suggest that at least a bit of mentoring is needed
if we want to give privileges
On 9/22/2010 8:31 PM, Guido van Rossum wrote:
[...]
Which to me sounds defiant and passive-aggressive. I don't
want to go into analyzing, but I expect that Mark has issues
that are beyond what this community can deal with.
Even I felt a bit offended by that one ;-)
That was
On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 18:24, R. David Murray rdmur...@bitdance.com wrote:
On Wed, 22 Sep 2010 19:18:35 -0400, Terry Reedy tjre...@udel.edu wrote:
On 9/22/2010 6:47 AM, Antoine Pitrou wrote:
Now I understand that opinions over this may vary and involve multiple
factors, but I would suggest
On Thu, 23 Sep 2010 10:18:39 am Tim Peters wrote:
Yikes - Mark has done terrific work in some very demanding areas,
I'd hate to see him feel unwelcome. So that's my advice: find a
way to smooth this over. You're welcome ;-)
I'd like to second that. Mark has been pushy, annoying and
On Sep 22, 2010, at 6:24 PM, R. David Murray wrote:
On Wed, 22 Sep 2010 19:18:35 -0400, Terry Reedy tjre...@udel.edu wrote:
deputed tracker authority/ies. Not everyone has the same idea about how
to handle the various fields and processes. Who decides in cases of
disagreement?
We
On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 10:38 PM, Brett Cannon br...@python.org wrote:
the first thing on the agenda is a complete rewrite of the developer
docs and moving them into the Doc/ directory
I'd like to know why you think moving the developer docs into the
CPython tree makes sense.
My own thought
Cameron Simpson writes:
I've just read that thread. Mark doesn't sound that way to me. I
disagree entirely is an entirely valid response, when backed up
with argument, such as his immediately following sentence:
Perhaps we should simply agree to disagree,
Agreeing to disagree *on
A discussion occurred (w/o me) on #python-dev where moving it to Doc/
would allow it to show up at docs.python.org to perhaps get more
people involved. It also allows developers to contribute to the docs
w/o having to get pydotorg commit rights.
On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 21:29, Fred Drake
On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 11:46 PM, Raymond Hettinger
raymond.hettin...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sep 22, 2010, at 6:24 PM, R. David Murray wrote:
On Wed, 22 Sep 2010 19:18:35 -0400, Terry Reedy tjre...@udel.edu wrote:
deputed tracker authority/ies. Not everyone has the same idea about how
to
Nick Coghlan ncoghlan at gmail.com writes:
To further reduce overhead, would it make sense for the signature of
the QueueListener constructor to be (queue, *handlers)?
Good suggestion - thanks.
Regards,
Vinay
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