Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 3333: wsgi_string() function

2011-01-10 Thread Ian Bicking
On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 1:47 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull step...@xemacs.orgwrote: Robert Brewer writes: Python 3.1 was released June 27th, 2009. We're coming up faster on the two-year period than we seem to be on a revised WSGI spec. Maybe we should shoot for a bytes of a known encoding

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 3333: wsgi_string() function

2011-01-10 Thread Michael Foord
On 10/01/2011 17:24, Ian Bicking wrote: On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 1:47 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull step...@xemacs.org mailto:step...@xemacs.org wrote: Robert Brewer writes: Python 3.1 was released June 27th, 2009. We're coming up faster on the two-year period than we seem to be on

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 3333: wsgi_string() function

2011-01-10 Thread Nick Coghlan
On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 3:24 AM, Ian Bicking i...@colorstudy.com wrote: The kind of object PJE was referring to is more like Ruby's strings, which do not embed the encoding inside the bytes themselves but have the encoding as a kind of annotation on the bytes, and do lazy transcoding when

[Python-Dev] unit test needed

2011-01-10 Thread Antoine Pitrou
Hello, I would like to advocate again for the removal of the unit test needed stage on the tracker, which regularly confuses our triagers into thinking it's an actual requirement or expectation from contributors and bug reporters. Regards Antoine.

Re: [Python-Dev] devguide: Add an intermediate task of helping triage issues (not to be confused with the

2011-01-10 Thread Antoine Pitrou
On Sun, 9 Jan 2011 15:18:12 -0800 Brett Cannon br...@python.org wrote: OK, so the sentence is poorly phrased, but in the list of tasks it is labeled explicitly as intermediate when one is comfortable with the process, not a newbie. Does that alleviate the worry you both have? It does seem to

Re: [Python-Dev] unit test needed

2011-01-10 Thread Éric Araujo
I would like to advocate again for the removal of the unit test needed stage on the tracker, which regularly confuses our triagers into thinking it's an actual requirement or expectation from contributors and bug reporters. Speaking as a bug triager: +1 to rename it “test needed” +1 to remove

Re: [Python-Dev] unit test needed

2011-01-10 Thread Georg Brandl
Am 10.01.2011 19:21, schrieb Éric Araujo: I would like to advocate again for the removal of the unit test needed stage on the tracker, which regularly confuses our triagers into thinking it's an actual requirement or expectation from contributors and bug reporters. Speaking as a bug

Re: [Python-Dev] unit test needed

2011-01-10 Thread Éric Araujo
+1 to rename it “test needed” +1 to remove it I meant either one would be an improvement. Regards ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe:

Re: [Python-Dev] devguide: Point out that OS X users need to change examples to use python.exe instead of

2011-01-10 Thread Łukasz Langa
Wiadomość napisana przez Ned Deily w dniu 2011-01-08, o godz. 22:13: In article aanlktiko1hd_axwboesam-3mq85tw8p1scmwot96x...@mail.gmail.com, Brett Cannon br...@python.org wrote: On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 13:04, Ned Deily n...@acm.org wrote: In article e1pawh0-0001py...@dinsdale.python.org,

Re: [Python-Dev] devguide: Add an intermediate task of helping triage issues (not to be confused with the

2011-01-10 Thread Brett Cannon
On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 10:24, Antoine Pitrou solip...@pitrou.net wrote: On Sun, 9 Jan 2011 15:18:12 -0800 Brett Cannon br...@python.org wrote: OK, so the sentence is poorly phrased, but in the list of tasks it is labeled explicitly as intermediate when one is comfortable with the

Re: [Python-Dev] unit test needed

2011-01-10 Thread Eli Bendersky
I would like to advocate again for the removal of the unit test needed stage on the tracker, which regularly confuses our triagers into thinking it's an actual requirement or expectation from contributors and bug reporters. Perhaps a different wording would be preferred to removal. Suppose a

Re: [Python-Dev] devguide: Add an intermediate task of helping triage issues (not to be confused with the

2011-01-10 Thread Michael Foord
On 10/01/2011 19:05, Brett Cannon wrote: On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 10:24, Antoine Pitrou solip...@pitrou.net mailto:solip...@pitrou.net wrote: On Sun, 9 Jan 2011 15:18:12 -0800 Brett Cannon br...@python.org mailto:br...@python.org wrote: OK, so the sentence is poorly

Re: [Python-Dev] unit test needed

2011-01-10 Thread Éric Araujo
Le 10/01/2011 20:11, Eli Bendersky a écrit : Perhaps a different wording would be preferred to removal. Suppose a reviewer accepts a patch but asks for a test before committing it. Well, we usually forewarn that a patch should include tests and docs, so I think “patch needed” or “patch review”

Re: [Python-Dev] unit test needed

2011-01-10 Thread Antoine Pitrou
On Mon, 10 Jan 2011 21:11:23 +0200 Eli Bendersky eli...@gmail.com wrote: I would like to advocate again for the removal of the unit test needed stage on the tracker, which regularly confuses our triagers into thinking it's an actual requirement or expectation from contributors and bug

Re: [Python-Dev] devguide: Add an intermediate task of helping triage issues (not to be confused with the

2011-01-10 Thread Antoine Pitrou
Le lundi 10 janvier 2011 à 19:26 +, Michael Foord a écrit : Fair enough. I will remove it. Well, *often* a test that exposes the issue can be written - and if so it is a useful exercise (surely). Yes, well, that's a matter of useful exercise for the contributor vs. required to

Re: [Python-Dev] devguide: Add an intermediate task of helping triage issues (not to be confused with the

2011-01-10 Thread Michael Foord
On 10/01/2011 19:31, Antoine Pitrou wrote: Le lundi 10 janvier 2011 à 19:26 +, Michael Foord a écrit : Fair enough. I will remove it. Well, *often* a test that exposes the issue can be written - and if so it is a useful exercise (surely). Yes, well, that's a matter of useful exercise

Re: [Python-Dev] devguide: Add an intermediate task of helping triage issues (not to be confused with the

2011-01-10 Thread Antoine Pitrou
Le lundi 10 janvier 2011 à 19:37 +, Michael Foord a écrit : On 10/01/2011 19:31, Antoine Pitrou wrote: Le lundi 10 janvier 2011 à 19:26 +, Michael Foord a écrit : Fair enough. I will remove it. Well, *often* a test that exposes the issue can be written - and if so it is a

Re: [Python-Dev] unit test needed

2011-01-10 Thread Alexander Belopolsky
On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 1:49 PM, Éric Araujo mer...@netwok.org wrote: +1 to rename it “test needed” +1 to remove it I meant either one would be an improvement. +1 to remove it Let's remove it first, an then decide if another stage is necessary. The problems with unit test needed is that 1.

Re: [Python-Dev] unit test needed

2011-01-10 Thread Michael Foord
On 10/01/2011 19:48, Alexander Belopolsky wrote: On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 1:49 PM, Éric Araujomer...@netwok.org wrote: +1 to rename it “test needed” +1 to remove it I meant either one would be an improvement. +1 to remove it Let's remove it first, an then decide if another stage is

Re: [Python-Dev] unit test needed

2011-01-10 Thread skip
Antoine Then we would need a whole array of checkboxes for things Antoine missing in a patch: Antoine - missing unit test Antoine - missing documentation changes Antoine - other things? How about replacing all the possibilities with patch incomplete then elaborate in

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-checkins] devguide: TODO about explaining how to fill in every field in an issue for a triager.

2011-01-10 Thread Alexander Belopolsky
On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 3:15 PM, brett.cannon python-check...@python.org wrote: .. +.. todo:: +    Figure out where to put instructions for triagers on filling out issue +    fields properly Some field titles are clickable and linked to field choices descriptions. Maybe these could be

Re: [Python-Dev] devguide: Point out that OS X users need to change examples to use python.exe instead of

2011-01-10 Thread Glyph Lefkowitz
On Jan 10, 2011, at 1:37 PM, Łukasz Langa wrote: I'm using the case-sensitive variant of HFS+ since 10.4. It works, I like it and you get ./python with it. I realize that this isn't a popularity contest for this feature, but I feel like I should pipe up here and mention that it breaks some

Re: [Python-Dev] devguide: Point out that OS X users need to change examples to use python.exe instead of

2011-01-10 Thread Ned Deily
In article dc9e7e39-f945-4b26-9f58-cb5655d0d...@twistedmatrix.com, Glyph Lefkowitz gl...@twistedmatrix.com wrote: On Jan 10, 2011, at 1:37 PM, ®©ukasz Langa wrote: I'm using the case-sensitive variant of HFS+ since 10.4. It works, I like it and you get ./python with it. I realize that

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 3333: wsgi_string() function

2011-01-10 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Ian Bicking writes: On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 1:47 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull step...@xemacs.orgwrote: Robert Brewer writes: Python 3.1 was released June 27th, 2009. We're coming up faster on the two-year period than we seem to be on a revised WSGI spec. Maybe we should

Re: [Python-Dev] unit test needed

2011-01-10 Thread Nick Coghlan
On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 6:37 AM, s...@pobox.com wrote: How about replacing all the possibilities with    patch incomplete then elaborate in the issue itself how that is the case. +1 This is much clearer than lumping incomplete patches in with nonexistent ones. A process that goes needs

Re: [Python-Dev] unit test needed

2011-01-10 Thread Eli Bendersky
On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 22:37, s...@pobox.com wrote: Antoine Then we would need a whole array of checkboxes for things Antoine missing in a patch: Antoine - missing unit test Antoine - missing documentation changes Antoine - other things? How about replacing all the