Re: [Python-Dev] Every Release Can Be a Mini "Python 4000", Within Reason (was (name := expression) doesn't fit the narrative of PEP 20)

2018-04-29 Thread Guido van Rossum
On Sun, Apr 29, 2018 at 10:45 AM, Eitan Adler wrote: > On 29 April 2018 at 01:34, Jeff Allen wrote: > > On 27/04/2018 08:38, Greg Ewing wrote: > > > I speculate this all goes back to some pre-iteration version of FORmula > > TRANslation, where to its

[Python-Dev] PEP 572 at the Language Summit next week

2018-04-29 Thread Larry Hastings
In case it helps, we're planning on presentations on / a discussion of PEP 572 at the 2018 Python Language Summit next Wednesday.  (I'm assuming it won't be pronounced upon before then--after all, what's the rush?)  Naturally the discussion isn't going to escape the room until it gets

Re: [Python-Dev] Every Release Can Be a Mini "Python 4000", Within Reason (was (name := expression) doesn't fit the narrative of PEP 20)

2018-04-29 Thread Wes Turner
On Sunday, April 29, 2018, Eitan Adler wrote: > On 29 April 2018 at 01:34, Jeff Allen wrote: > > On 27/04/2018 08:38, Greg Ewing wrote: > > > I speculate this all goes back to some pre-iteration version of FORmula > > TRANslation, where to its inventors

Re: [Python-Dev] Every Release Can Be a Mini "Python 4000", Within Reason (was (name := expression) doesn't fit the narrative of PEP 20)

2018-04-29 Thread Eitan Adler
On 29 April 2018 at 01:34, Jeff Allen wrote: > On 27/04/2018 08:38, Greg Ewing wrote: > I speculate this all goes back to some pre-iteration version of FORmula > TRANslation, where to its inventors '=' was definition and these really were > "statements" in the normal sense of

[Python-Dev] Bugs Migration to OpenShift

2018-04-29 Thread Mark Mangoba
Hi All, We’re planning to finish up the bugs.python.org migration to Red Hat OpenShift by May 14th (US Pycon Sprints). For the most part everything will stay same, with the exception of cleaning up some old URL’s and redirects from the previous hosting provider: Upfront Software. We will post

Re: [Python-Dev] Review of Pull Request 5974 please

2018-04-29 Thread Yury Selivanov
Reviewed. This seems to be an omission that needs to fixed, thanks for the PR! Almost good to go in 3.8. As for 3.7, this isn't a bug fix it's up to Ned if he wants to accept it. Yury On Sun, Apr 29, 2018 at 8:02 AM Anthony Flury via Python-Dev < python-dev@python.org> wrote: > All, > Can

[Python-Dev] Review of Pull Request 5974 please

2018-04-29 Thread Anthony Flury via Python-Dev
All, Can someone please review Pull Request 5974 on Python3.8 - the Pull request was submitted on 4th March - this pull request is associated with bpo-32933 To summarize the point of this pull request: It

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 572 contradicts PEP 3099

2018-04-29 Thread Nick Coghlan
On 29 April 2018 at 12:52, Greg Ewing wrote: > Alex Walters wrote: > >> PEP 3099 is the big list of things that will not happen in Python 3. >> >> "There will be no alternative binding operators such as :=." >> > > The thread referenced by that is taling about a

Re: [Python-Dev] Every Release Can Be a Mini "Python 4000", Within Reason (was (name := expression) doesn't fit the narrative of PEP 20)

2018-04-29 Thread Jeff Allen
On 27/04/2018 08:38, Greg Ewing wrote: How would you complete the following sentence? "The ':=' symbol is a much better symbol for assignment than '=', because..." ... users new to programming but with a scientific background expect '=' to be a statement of an algebraic relationship between