On Sat, Jan 11, 2014 at 3:45 PM, Ethan Furman et...@stoneleaf.us wrote:
The docs say this [1]:
==
test.support.check_warnings(*filters, quiet=True)
A convenience wrapper for warnings.catch_warnings() that makes it
easier to test
On Sat, Jan 11, 2014 at 8:20 PM, Terry Reedy tjre...@udel.edu wrote:
The following function interpolates bytes, bytearrays, and formatted
strings, the latter two auto-converted to bytes, into a bytes (or
auto-converted bytearray) format. This function automates much of what some
people have
On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 5:00 PM, Chris Barker chris.bar...@noaa.gov wrote:
On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 1:45 PM, Antoine Pitrou solip...@pitrou.netwrote:
latin-1 guaranteed to work with any binary data, and round-trip
accurately?
Yes, it is.
and will surrogateescape work for arbitrary binary
On Tue, Jan 7, 2014 at 7:07 PM, Larry Hastings la...@hastings.org wrote:
On 01/07/2014 03:38 PM, Brett Cannon wrote:
On Tue, Jan 7, 2014 at 6:24 PM, Larry Hastings la...@hastings.org wrote:
For what it's worth, if we use the accumulator approach I propose
that the generated code doesn't
On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 10:46 AM, Larry Hastings la...@hastings.org wrote:
On 01/08/2014 07:33 AM, Brett Cannon wrote:
So let's make this idea concrete to focus a possible discussion. Using the
example from the Clinic HOWTO and converting to how I see it working:
[...]
Yep. And what I
On Tue, Jan 7, 2014 at 4:44 PM, Stefan Krah ste...@bytereef.org wrote:
Antoine Pitrou solip...@pitrou.net wrote:
Several solutions have been proposed:
- move all generated code to separate C files, which would then be
#included'd into the main module file
+1 for the reasons that Serhiy
On Tue, Jan 7, 2014 at 6:24 PM, Larry Hastings la...@hastings.org wrote:
On 01/07/2014 12:46 PM, Mark Lawrence wrote:
Maybe overkill but why not follow 3 with 2 at the end of the file, the
marker to be a very clear /* Generated by Argument Clinic - DO NOT EDIT
BELOW THIS LINE */ or
On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 2:09 AM, Chris Angelico ros...@gmail.com wrote:
The first build my new root buildbot did showed errors in the 2.7 test
suite, but I thought little of it as quite a few other 2.7 buildbots
are showing red, too. But it seems they're showing different errors,
so there
On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 8:59 AM, Antoine Pitrou solip...@pitrou.net wrote:
On Tue, 7 Jan 2014 00:54:17 +1100
Chris Angelico ros...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Jan 7, 2014 at 12:44 AM, Antoine Pitrou solip...@pitrou.net
wrote:
BTW, there's a subtlety here: ``%s`` currently means insert the
On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 8:44 AM, Antoine Pitrou solip...@pitrou.net wrote:
Hi,
On Mon, 6 Jan 2014 14:24:50 +0100
Victor Stinner victor.stin...@gmail.com wrote:
The PEP is a draft with open questions. First, I'm not sure that both
bytes%args and bytes.format(args) are needed. The
On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 9:45 AM, Nick Coghlan ncogh...@gmail.com wrote:
On 6 Jan 2014 22:15, Brett Cannon br...@python.org wrote:
On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 8:59 AM, Antoine Pitrou solip...@pitrou.net
wrote:
On Tue, 7 Jan 2014 00:54:17 +1100
Chris Angelico ros...@gmail.com wrote
On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 3:40 PM, Skip Montanaro s...@pobox.com wrote:
On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 2:17 PM, Antoine Pitrou solip...@pitrou.net
wrote:
I agree with Serhiy, but that is probably known at this point. :)
I agree with Serhiy and you too. Clinic's current output makes C files
more
Maybe someone from PyPy should bring this up as an official topic at the
language summit to figure out the blockers (again). Or it can join regex on
the list of module discussed for addition at the language summit but never
quite pushed to commitment. =)
On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 11:43 AM, Stefan
http://bugs.python.org/issue12837 deals with the single compiler warning
left on OS X: a tautalogical compare in socketmodule.c that is valid under
POSIX. I have a solution that uses pragmas to turn off tautological compare
warnings for the single 'if' statement that triggers it. But there are
On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 2:22 PM, Ethan Furman et...@stoneleaf.us wrote:
On 12/05/2013 10:56 AM, Alexander Belopolsky wrote:
On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 1:24 PM, Guido van Rossum wrote:
How would you get the docstrings in? [...]
One way to reduce the amount of boilerplate code is to make
On 2008-12-03, Python 3.0.0 was released by Barry. I was actually on IRC
the night when it happened, with Guido leaving his office across the hall
from mine. We gave each other a high-five and then we both went home. Not
exactly a party, but I know I at least breathed a sigh of relief that
Python
On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 10:25 AM, Kristján Valur Jónsson
krist...@ccpgames.com wrote:
-Original Message-
From: Python-Dev [mailto:python-dev-
bounces+kristjan=ccpgames@python.org] On Behalf Of Antoine Pitrou
Sent: 29. nóvember 2013 14:58
To: python-dev@python.org
On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 7:29 AM, Benjamin Peterson benja...@python.orgwrote:
2013/11/22 anatoly techtonik techto...@gmail.com:
On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 5:43 PM, Benjamin Peterson benja...@python.org
wrote:
2013/11/15 anatoly techtonik techto...@gmail.com:
On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 5:08 PM,
On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 11:37 AM, Eric Snow ericsnowcurren...@gmail.comwrote:
On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 9:36 AM, Eric Snow ericsnowcurren...@gmail.com
wrote:
The bulk of PEP 451 (all but the fluffy parts as Brett called them
wink) is now committed to default.
I'm looking into buildbot
On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 5:41 PM, Mark Lawrence breamore...@yahoo.co.ukwrote:
On 20/11/2013 22:01, Antoine Pitrou wrote:
pathlib imports many modules at startup, so for scripts for which
startup time is critical using os.path may still be the best option.
Will there be or is there a note
On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 4:09 PM, Greg Ewing greg.ew...@canterbury.ac.nzwrote:
Concerning the version number, I thought the intention of
PEP 404 was simply to say that the PSF would not be releasing
anything called Python 2.8, not to forbid anyone *else*
from doing so.
Or am I wrong about
On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 10:31 AM, Christian Heimes christ...@python.orgwrote:
Am 21.11.2013 16:12, schrieb Barry Warsaw:
On Nov 21, 2013, at 02:16 PM, Kristján Valur Jónsson wrote:
Oh, this is the misunderstanding. No one is trying to get permission
for
CPython 2.8, only Stackless
On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 4:04 PM, Antoine Pitrou solip...@pitrou.net wrote:
Hello,
Guido has told me that he was ready to approve PEP 428 (pathlib) in its
latest amended form. Here is the last call for any comments or
arguments against approval, before Guido marks the PEP accepted (or
On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 12:15 PM, Chris Barker chris.bar...@noaa.govwrote:
Folks,
It seems changing anything about how Exception messages are handles is off
the table for 2.7, and a non-issue in 3.*
Is it worth opening an issue on this, just so we can close it as won't
fix? Or is this
On Nov 17, 2013 8:58 AM, Eli Bendersky eli...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 3:44 PM, Brett Cannon br...@python.org wrote:
On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 1:40 PM, Eric Snow ericsnowcurren...@gmail.com
wrote:
If you look at the Python and Modules directories in the cpython repo
On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 1:40 PM, Eric Snow ericsnowcurren...@gmail.comwrote:
If you look at the Python and Modules directories in the cpython repo,
you'll find modules in Python/ and core files (like python.c and
main.c) in Modules/. (It's like parking on a driveway and driving on
a parkway.
On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 12:41 PM, Chris Barker chris.bar...@noaa.govwrote:
On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 9:21 AM, Armin Rigo ar...@tunes.org wrote:
I figured that even using the traceback.py module and getting
Exception: \u1234\u1235\u5321 is rather useless if you tried to
raise an exception
On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 6:30 AM, Facundo Batista
facundobati...@gmail.comwrote:
On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 4:37 AM, Maciej Fijalkowski fij...@gmail.com
wrote:
Do you think it would be productive to create an independent Python
compiler, designed with sandboxing in mind from the beginning?
On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 1:05 PM, Eli Bendersky eli...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 6:58 AM, Brett Cannon br...@python.org wrote:
On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 6:30 AM, Facundo Batista
facundobati...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 4:37 AM, Maciej Fijalkowski fij
mechanism to the stdlib.
On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 2:49 PM, Eric Snow ericsnowcurren...@gmail.comwrote:
I'm pleased to announce that Brett Cannon and Nick Coghlan (the
co-BDFL-delegates) have accepted PEP 451 for inclusion in Python 3.4.
Both of them have contributed substantially
On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 7:41 AM, Nick Coghlan ncogh...@gmail.com wrote:
On 7 Nov 2013 21:34, Victor Stinner victor.stin...@gmail.com wrote:
2013/11/7 Steven D'Aprano st...@pearwood.info:
My initial instinct here was to say that sounded like premature
optimization, but to my surprise
On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 2:20 PM, Eric Snow ericsnowcurren...@gmail.comwrote:
On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 11:44 AM, Brett Cannon br...@python.org wrote:
Lazy message creation through
__str__ does leave the message out of `args`, though.
If that's an issue you could make args a (settable) property
Please put all patches on bugs.python.org, else we will lose track of the
change.
On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 2:17 PM, Sreenivas Reddy T
thatiparthysreeni...@gmail.com wrote:
diff -r bec6df56c053 Lib/datetime.py
--- a/Lib/datetime.pyTue Nov 05 22:01:46 2013 +0200
+++ b/Lib/datetime.pyThu
On Sat, Nov 2, 2013 at 5:46 AM, Nick Coghlan ncogh...@gmail.com wrote:
On 2 November 2013 08:44, Eric Snow ericsnowcurren...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 11:59 AM, Brett Cannon br...@python.org wrote:
Thanks for the clarification. It all SGTM.
I've updated the PEP
On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 6:10 PM, Nick Coghlan ncogh...@gmail.com wrote:
On 1 Nov 2013 01:37, PJ Eby p...@telecommunity.com wrote:
. ;-)
I also suspect, that if properly spelled out, those use cases are
going to boil down to:
1. Throwing errors if you have an existing module object
On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 1:52 PM, Eric Snow ericsnowcurren...@gmail.comwrote:
On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 7:35 AM, Brett Cannon br...@python.org wrote:
On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 6:10 PM, Nick Coghlan ncogh...@gmail.com
wrote:
At the time when find_spec runs, sys.modules hasn't been touched yet, so
On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 2:05 AM, Eric Snow ericsnowcurren...@gmail.comwrote:
I've had some offline discussion with Brett and Nick about PEP 451
which has led to some meaningful clarifications in the PEP. In the
interest of pulling further discussions back onto this
(archived/public) list,
On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 11:44 AM, Eric Snow ericsnowcurren...@gmail.comwrote:
On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 9:40 AM, Brett Cannon br...@python.org wrote:
After reading Eric's doc patch, I realized there is one change I want to
make to the current semantics and that's not to backfill __package__
On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 12:24 PM, PJ Eby p...@telecommunity.com wrote:
I've not really had time to review this PEP yet, but from skimming
discussion to date, the only thing I'm still worried about is whether
this will break lazy import schemes that use a module subclass that
hooks
On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 2:10 PM, PJ Eby p...@telecommunity.com wrote:
On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 1:15 PM, Brett Cannon br...@python.org wrote:
On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 12:24 PM, PJ Eby p...@telecommunity.com wrote:
At least through all 2.x, reload() just uses module.__name__ to
restart
The diff doesn't show an addition to BENCH_GROUPS. Maybe apps?
On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 4:24 PM, antoine.pitrou
python-check...@python.orgwrote:
http://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/8939c0196990
changeset: 86603:8939c0196990
user:Antoine Pitrou solip...@pitrou.net
date:Thu Oct
On Fri, Oct 11, 2013 at 11:23 AM, Michael Foord
fuzzy...@voidspace.org.ukwrote:
On 10 Oct 2013, at 01:53, Eric Snow ericsnowcurren...@gmail.com wrote:
Registration is now open for PyCon US 2014. Are there any plans yet
for the language summit? Just the day (e.g. Thursday April 10) will
On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 9:06 PM, Nick Coghlan ncogh...@gmail.com wrote:
On 19 Oct 2013 03:24, brett.cannon python-check...@python.org wrote:
http://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/11f2f4af1979
changeset: 86444:11f2f4af1979
user:Brett Cannon br...@python.org
date:Fri Oct 18
On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 8:55 PM, Nick Coghlan ncogh...@gmail.com wrote:
On 19 Oct 2013 02:01, brett.cannon python-check...@python.org wrote:
http://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/33844153cd02
changeset: 86438:33844153cd02
user:Brett Cannon br...@python.org
date:Fri Oct 18
On Sat, Oct 19, 2013 at 10:00 AM, Charles-François Natali
cf.nat...@gmail.com wrote:
2013/10/19 Nick Coghlan ncogh...@gmail.com:
Speaking of which... Charles-François, would you be willing to act as
BDFL-Delegate for this PEP? This will be a very useful new analysis tool,
and between
On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 4:10 AM, Paul Moore p.f.mo...@gmail.com wrote:
On 17 October 2013 23:40, Larry Hastings la...@hastings.org wrote:
For those interested parties: Guido just checked asyncio, aka Tulip,
aka
PEP 3156, in to trunk. I expect it to be part of Python 3.4.0a4,
hopefully to
importlib.machinery.FileFinder does a stat call to check if a path is a
file if the package check failed. Now I'm willing to bet that the check is
rather redundant as the file extension should be a dead give-away that
something in a directory is a file and not some non-file type. The import
would
tl;dr:
2.7 - 3.3 = 1.92x slower
2.7 - 3.4 = 1.36x slower
3.3 - 3.4 = 1.40x faster
IOW the work people have been putting in to speed up interpreter startup
are definitely paying off.
./perf.py -b normal_startup,startup_nosite ../cpython/py3.3/python.exe
../cpython/default/python.exe
Running
On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 1:34 PM, Zachary Ware
zachary.ware+py...@gmail.comwrote:
On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 12:30 PM, Antoine Pitrou solip...@pitrou.net
wrote:
Is anyone looking into those leaks?
I suspect they might have to do with Serhiy's latest re changes in
add40e9f7cbe.
(just a
On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 1:51 PM, Brett Cannon br...@python.org wrote:
On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 1:34 PM, Zachary Ware
zachary.ware+py...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 12:30 PM, Antoine Pitrou solip...@pitrou.net
wrote:
Is anyone looking into those leaks?
I suspect
On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 1:53 PM, Brett Cannon br...@python.org wrote:
On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 1:51 PM, Brett Cannon br...@python.org wrote:
On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 1:34 PM, Zachary Ware
zachary.ware+py...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 12:30 PM, Antoine Pitrou solip
suite into
Tools/clinic/
- Adding its documentation somewhere in the Doc/ directory
- Merging six or eight places where I've converted random functions
to use Clinic
Brett Cannon gave the code a cursory review at PyCon CA over about six
hours, and iirc he said it was basically
On Sun, Oct 13, 2013 at 3:08 PM, Victor Stinner victor.stin...@gmail.comwrote:
Le 13 oct. 2013 10:19, Stefan Behnel stefan...@behnel.de a écrit :
I agree. I find it much easier to read a plain and obvious
try:
from _cmodule import *
except ImportError:
from
On Sat, Oct 12, 2013 at 5:38 AM, Paul Moore p.f.mo...@gmail.com wrote:
On 12 October 2013 00:29, Nick Coghlan ncogh...@gmail.com wrote:
There's no grand policy change or clarification needed here, it's just
another consequence of the fact that the import system isn't documented
properly in
On Sat, Oct 12, 2013 at 1:19 PM, Christian Heimes christ...@python.orgwrote:
Hi,
I have written a interface to OpenSSL's PKCS5_PBKDF2_HMAC() function. It
implements PKCS#5's password based key derivation function 2 with HMAC
as pseudo-random function. It supports any digest that is supported
On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 9:38 AM, Antoine Pitrou solip...@pitrou.net wrote:
Le Thu, 10 Oct 2013 14:36:26 +0200,
Dirkjan Ochtman dirk...@ochtman.nl a écrit :
On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 2:25 PM, Christian Heimes
christ...@python.org wrote:
Benchmark of 1000 times python -c ''
Python
On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 5:29 PM, Ethan Furman et...@stoneleaf.us wrote:
Greetings,
Currently, inspect() is dependent on dir().
What's inspect()? I don't know of any global with that name and you are
obviously not talking about the module.
___
On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 2:58 PM, Stefan Behnel stefan...@behnel.de wrote:
Hi,
I'm looking back on a rather unpleasant experience that I recently had in
this developer community. Actually, twice by now. Here's what I take from
it:
You should take responsibility for your commits.
Sounds
On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 5:16 PM, Zachary Ware
zachary.ware+py...@gmail.comwrote:
On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 3:29 PM, Donald Stufft don...@stufft.io wrote:
snip
If it lives in the source tree how are you going to provent it from
existing when someone installs on Linux? OSX? One of the BSDs?
On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 6:33 PM, Guido van Rossum gu...@python.org wrote:
I've been looking at my progress with Tulip and the 3.4 release schedule
(PEP 429) and it looks like I will have to do some kind of sprint to get it
into the release in time for beta 1, which is planned for Nov 24.
On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 7:15 PM, Donald Stufft don...@stufft.io wrote:
On Sep 25, 2013, at 7:04 PM, Barry Warsaw ba...@python.org wrote:
Another reason to oppose this is what I've heard quite often from people
regarding Python 2.7. I've been told that many folks are actually really
On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 9:52 AM, Eli Bendersky eli...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi All,
Earlier this morning I had a slight tackle with a couple of the 3.4 bots
(sorry everyone!). I fixed some problems in asdl.py -
http://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/21d46e3ae60c - and used the 'with'
statement. Some
cc'ing Jeremy Hylton who made the decision to use Zephyr.
On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 9:15 AM, Eli Bendersky eli...@gmail.com wrote:
Hello,
Some history (as best as I could collect it) followed by a question:
Before Python 2.5, the ast stdlib module was auto generated by a script
named
On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 9:28 AM, Benjamin Peterson benja...@python.orgwrote:
2013/9/25 Eli Bendersky eli...@gmail.com:
Hello,
Some history (as best as I could collect it) followed by a question:
Before Python 2.5, the ast stdlib module was auto generated by a script
named astgen.py
This list is for the developing *of *Python, not it's use. You can try
asking on python-list for some help.
On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 4:07 AM, alok bhan rajalo...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi All
I need help in installing python development packages (python27-devel) on
Centos5.8. Upgrading hardware is
On Sun, Sep 22, 2013 at 8:53 AM, Steven D'Aprano st...@pearwood.infowrote:
On Sun, Sep 22, 2013 at 10:20:46AM +0200, Antoine Pitrou wrote:
On Sun, 22 Sep 2013 13:13:04 +1000
Steven D'Aprano st...@pearwood.info wrote:
Hi all,
I have a question about how I should manage documentation
On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 2:45 PM, Glenn Linderman v+pyt...@g.nevcal.comwrote:
On 9/17/2013 10:51 AM, Guido van Rossum wrote:
But only the PSF has the list of original contributors and their licenses.
So can that list be made public, and available in multiple archives?
Technically it
On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 3:45 PM, Antoine Pitrou solip...@pitrou.net wrote:
On Mon, 16 Sep 2013 19:06:37 +0200
Charles-François Natali cf.nat...@gmail.com wrote:
2013/9/16 Antoine Pitrou solip...@pitrou.net:
Le Sun, 15 Sep 2013 06:46:08 -0700,
Ethan Furman et...@stoneleaf.us a écrit :
On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 8:46 AM, Victor Stinner victor.stin...@gmail.comwrote:
Use your microphone, say python and save the file in your favorite
file format. Try for example Audacity. I suppose that you don't need
specific audio content and you don't need a huge file.
And if you don't want
On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 8:02 AM, Larry Hastings la...@hastings.org wrote:
On behalf of the Python development team, I'm chuffed to announce the
second alpha release of Python 3.4.
This is a preview release, and its use is not recommended for
production settings.
Python 3.4 includes a range
On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 8:16 PM, Victor Stinner victor.stin...@gmail.comwrote:
Hi,
Thanks to the PEP 445, it becomes possible to trace easily memory
allocations. I propose to add a new tracemalloc module computing the
memory usage per file and per line number. It has also a private
method
I just committed a change to the benchmarks suite so that there is no
longer a translation step to allow running under Python 3. Should make it
much easier to just keep a checkout lying around to use for both Python 2
and 3 benchmarking.
___
Python-Dev
...@python.org:
http://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/7d30ecf5c916
changeset: 85339:7d30ecf5c916
parent: 85336:391f36ef461a
parent: 85337:ddd610cb65ef
user:Brett Cannon br...@python.org
date:Fri Aug 23 11:52:19 2013 -0400
summary:
merge for issue #18755
files
On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 8:33 PM, Tim Peters tim.pet...@gmail.com wrote:
[Tim, wondering why the 3.2 branch isn't inactive]
...
What is gained by _not_ merging here? I don't see it.
[Antoine Pitrou]
Perhaps Georg doesn't like merges? ;-)
I suppose what's gained is one less command to
? I'd be happy to do that. I'd throw away
all the merge changes except for adding the v3,2.5 tag to .hgtags.
The only active branches remaining would be `default` and 2.7, which
is what I expected when I started this ;-)
[Brett Cannon]
While I would think Georg can object if he wants, I
On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 5:22 AM, Antoine Pitrou solip...@pitrou.net wrote:
On Thu, 15 Aug 2013 11:16:20 +0200
Victor Stinner victor.stin...@gmail.com wrote:
2013/8/15 Antoine Pitrou solip...@pitrou.net:
We don't have any substantial change in store for an eventual Python
4, so it's
On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 8:29 AM, R. David Murray rdmur...@bitdance.comwrote:
On Thu, 15 Aug 2013 11:22:14 +0200, Antoine Pitrou solip...@pitrou.net
wrote:
On Thu, 15 Aug 2013 11:16:20 +0200
Victor Stinner victor.stin...@gmail.com wrote:
2013/8/15 Antoine Pitrou solip...@pitrou.net:
On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 8:36 AM, Antoine Pitrou solip...@pitrou.net wrote:
On Thu, 15 Aug 2013 08:29:35 -0400
R. David Murray rdmur...@bitdance.com wrote:
On Thu, 15 Aug 2013 11:22:14 +0200, Antoine Pitrou solip...@pitrou.net
wrote:
On Thu, 15 Aug 2013 11:16:20 +0200
Victor Stinner
On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 9:15 AM, Ezio Melotti ezio.melo...@gmail.comwrote:
Hi,
On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 3:29 PM, R. David Murray rdmur...@bitdance.com
wrote:
On Thu, 15 Aug 2013 11:22:14 +0200, Antoine Pitrou solip...@pitrou.net
wrote:
On Thu, 15 Aug 2013 11:16:20 +0200
Victor Stinner
On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 10:22 PM, Steven D'Aprano st...@pearwood.infowrote:
On 13/08/13 23:36, Brett Cannon wrote:
On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 6:34 AM, Serhiy Storchaka storch...@gmail.com
wrote:
12.08.13 22:22, Brett Cannon написав(ла):
I have created
http://bugs.python.org
On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 11:47 AM, Nick Coghlan ncogh...@gmail.com wrote:
On 14 August 2013 11:08, Brett Cannon br...@python.org wrote:
We take adding a module to the stdlib very seriously for all of these
reasons and yet people seem to forget that the exact same reasons apply
to
modules
On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 12:09 PM, Nick Coghlan ncogh...@gmail.com wrote:
On 14 August 2013 11:55, Brett Cannon br...@python.org wrote:
On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 11:47 AM, Nick Coghlan ncogh...@gmail.com
wrote:
On 14 August 2013 11:08, Brett Cannon br...@python.org wrote:
We take adding
On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 1:50 PM, Chris Angelico ros...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 6:42 PM, Nick Coghlan ncogh...@gmail.com wrote:
That would be PEP 4 :)
What's the normal way to update a PEP?
... proposals for deprecating modules MUST be made by providing a
change to the
On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 10:10 PM, Arnaud Fontaine
arnaud.fonta...@nexedi.com wrote:
Brett Cannon br...@python.org writes:
On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 5:12 AM, Arnaud Fontaine
arnaud.fonta...@nexedi.com wrote:
Yes, I saw the bug report and its patch implementing the import lock per
module
On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 6:34 AM, Serhiy Storchaka storch...@gmail.comwrote:
12.08.13 22:22, Brett Cannon написав(ла):
I have created
http://bugs.python.org/**issue18716http://bugs.python.org/issue18716to
deprecate the
formatter module for removal in Python 3.6 unless someone convinces me
in my initial email) and watched the presentation by
Brett Cannon (BTW, I could not find the diagram explained during the
presentation, anyone knows if it's available somewhere?).
http://prezi.com/mqptpza9xbic/?utm_campaign=shareutm_medium=copy
-Brett
At the PyCon CA sprint someone discovered the formatter module had somewhat
low code coverage. We discovered this is because it's tested by
test_sundry, i.e. it's tested by importing it and that's it.
We then realized that it isn't really used by anyone (pydoc uses it but it
should have been
On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 12:59 AM, Nick Coghlan ncogh...@gmail.com wrote:
On 6 August 2013 09:53, Larry Hastings la...@hastings.org wrote:
On 08/05/2013 02:55 AM, Nick Coghlan wrote:
On 5 August 2013 18:48, Larry Hastings la...@hastings.org wrote:
Question 0: How should we integrate Clinic
On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 12:58 PM, Alexander Shorin kxe...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Steven,
On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 7:06 PM, Steven D'Aprano st...@pearwood.info
wrote:
Hi Alexander,
On 02/08/13 00:48, Alexander Shorin wrote:
Hi Ronald,
I understand this, but I'm a bit confused about
On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 8:28 PM, Christian Heimes christ...@python.orgwrote:
Am 29.07.2013 21:48, schrieb Antoine Pitrou:
Ideally, we should run coverage runs on different systems (Unices,
Windows...) and merge the results together, so that we know which paths
are really uncovered.
I
On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 1:15 PM, Christian Heimes christ...@python.orgwrote:
Hi,
I have done some experiments with GCC's gcov and lcov to get the C code
coverage of our unit test suite. You may find today's report at
http://tiran.bitbucket.org/python-lcov/
Thanks!
I took a quick poke
On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 3:31 PM, Christian Heimes christ...@python.orgwrote:
Am 29.07.2013 19:58, schrieb Brett Cannon:
I took a quick poke around and it seems some things are legitimately not
being executed, while others are error conditions that we wouldn't
expect to occur (e.g. memory
On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 6:56 PM, Christian Heimes christ...@python.orgwrote:
Am 26.07.2013 00:32, schrieb Terry Reedy:
I found the answer here
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B5wQCOK_TiRiMWVqQ0xPaDEzbkU/edit
Coverity Integrity Level 1 is 1 (defect/1000 lines)
Level 2 is .1 (we have
On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 8:56 AM, Eli Bendersky eli...@gmail.com wrote:
Just a quick question - is there a chance to convince Coverity to detect
Python refcounting leaks in C API code :-) ?
You can always ask. =)
This could be useful not only for Python but for extensions too. As it
stands
On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 11:18 AM, Eli Bendersky eli...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 7:48 AM, Brian Curtin br...@python.org wrote:
On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 9:37 AM, Christian Heimes christ...@python.org
wrote:
Am 25.07.2013 16:29, schrieb Eli Bendersky:
Hi all,
I've been
On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 5:12 AM, Bohuslav Kabrda bkab...@redhat.com wrote:
Hi all,
in recent days, there has been a discussion on fedora-devel (see thread
[1]) about moving to Python 3 as a default.
I'd really love to hear opinions on the matter from the upstream, mainly
regarding these two
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 9:07 PM, Barry Warsaw ba...@python.org wrote:
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On Jul 16, 2013, at 07:34 PM, Tres Seaver wrote:
On 07/16/2013 07:09 AM, Nick Coghlan wrote:
I did find it interesting that we *don't* explicitly advise against
the
On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 2:54 AM, Nick Coghlan ncogh...@gmail.com wrote:
On 13 July 2013 23:26, David Beazley d...@dabeaz.com wrote:
I'm in favor of PLY going into stdlib with the caveat that there are some
things about it that should probably be cleaned up and modernized. For
instance, the
On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 8:01 PM, Cameron Simpson c...@zip.com.au wrote:
On 15Jul2013 09:48, Steven D'Aprano st...@pearwood.info wrote:
| On 14/07/13 21:09, Nick Coghlan wrote:
|
| Slight adjustment to the proposed wording to ensure completely
undocumented
| modules are also considered
On Thu, Jul 4, 2013 at 8:13 AM, Chris Withers ch...@simplistix.co.ukwrote:
On 04/07/2013 12:59, Christian Heimes wrote:
Am 04.07.2013 13:21, schrieb Chris Withers:
There doesn't appear to be any way in Python 3 to do this, which is a
little surprising and frustrating...
What am I missing
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