Re: [Python-Dev] Migrating to Python 3: the python 3 install issue

2015-10-07 Thread Nick Coghlan
On 4 October 2015 at 03:49, Christian Tismer wrote: > Great, that this finally happens. > > I think this was a silent revolution, initiated by nagging > people, distros and larger companies about how mega-out Python2 is, > until they finally started to believe it ;-) While

Re: [Python-Dev] Migrating to Python 3: the python 3 install issue

2015-10-03 Thread Nick Coghlan
On 3 October 2015 at 09:57, Barry Warsaw wrote: > On Oct 03, 2015, at 01:05 AM, Victor Stinner wrote: > >>Ubuntu is also working on a similar change. I don't know when it will happen. > > For the desktop, we're aiming for 16.04 LTS. So close! Out of curiousity, I dug up the

Re: [Python-Dev] Migrating to Python 3: the python 3 install issue

2015-10-03 Thread Christian Tismer
Great, that this finally happens. I think this was a silent revolution, initiated by nagging people, distros and larger companies about how mega-out Python2 is, until they finally started to believe it ;-) cheers -- Chris [since 2012 on Py3, charging an extra for back-porting] On 03/10/15

[Python-Dev] Migrating to Python 3: the python 3 install issue

2015-10-02 Thread Terry Reedy
On python-list, Chris Warrick reported (thread title): "The Nikola project is deprecating Python 2.7 (+2.x/3.x user survey results)" This is for the November release, with 2.7 dropped in the next version next year. (Nikola is a cross-platform unicode-based app for building static websites and

Re: [Python-Dev] Migrating to Python 3: the python 3 install issue

2015-10-02 Thread Victor Stinner
(grr, again i sent a draft by mistake, sorry about that) Fedora 23 (scheduled for the end of this month) will only come with python3 (/usr/bin/python3), no python2 (nor python), *in the base system*. Obviously, it will be possible to install Python 2 to install applications not compatible with

Re: [Python-Dev] Migrating to Python 3: the python 3 install issue

2015-10-02 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Oct 03, 2015, at 01:05 AM, Victor Stinner wrote: >Ubuntu is also working on a similar change. I don't know when it will happen. For the desktop, we're aiming for 16.04 LTS. Cheers, -Barry ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org

Re: [Python-Dev] Migrating to Python 3: the python 3 install issue

2015-10-02 Thread Brett Cannon
Thanks for the info, Terry! Glad people are realizing that Python 3 is now available widely enough that applications can seriously consider dropping Python 2 support now. I still think 2016 is going to see this happen more and more once the Linux distros make their switches to Python 3. On Fri, 2

Re: [Python-Dev] Migrating to Python 3: the python 3 install issue

2015-10-02 Thread Victor Stinner
Fedora 23 (scheduled for the end of this month) will only come with python3 (/usr/bin/python3), no python2 (nor python), *in the base system*. Obviously, it will be possible to install Python 2 to install applications not compatible with Python 3 yet. Note: the current development version is