Re: [Python-Dev] Tracker archeology

2009-02-22 Thread Rodrigo Bernardo Pimentel
[Sorry for stepping in so late] On Thu, Feb 12 2009 at 02:05:23PM BRST, Daniel (ajax) Diniz aja...@gmail.com wrote: Victor Stinner wrote: Oh, I realized that there is a component called Unicode. So it should be possible to write a request to list all issues related to unicode. Nice, I'll

Re: [Python-Dev] Tracker archeology

2009-02-14 Thread Martin v. Löwis
But no way to share aggregated search results (I've sent some off-list), 'follow' users (i.e., be added as nosy for issues where user A is nosy), auto-add as nosy based on keywords, etc. Someday we could have these nosy features hosted externally, e.g. as an AppEngine app that subscribes to

Re: [Python-Dev] Tracker archeology

2009-02-13 Thread Georg Brandl
Daniel (ajax) Diniz schrieb: Over-spammig: Sorry, Georg! I only noticed all issues in the Documentation component are auto-assigned to you today. This meant dozens of unasked for assignments :-/ That's okay, I'll go through them at the weekend and just unassign what I won't manage to do.

Re: [Python-Dev] Tracker archeology

2009-02-13 Thread Daniel (ajax) Diniz
Daniel (ajax) Diniz wrote: Martin v. Löwis wrote: I think HTML scraping is a really bad idea. What is it that you specifically want to do with these data? For starters, free form searches, aggregation and filtering of results. The web interface is pretty good for handling individual issues,

Re: [Python-Dev] Tracker archeology

2009-02-13 Thread Daniel (ajax) Diniz
Brett Cannon wrote: On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 16:45, Daniel (ajax) Diniz aja...@gmail.com wrote: I have to test my patch against a good representation of the issue, regression tests must pass, 'automated test needed' fits well :) Go with Unit test needed so it's short and to the point and you

Re: [Python-Dev] Tracker archeology

2009-02-13 Thread Martin v. Löwis
For starters, free form searches, aggregation and filtering of results. What is free form searches (example)? What is aggregation? What results do you want to filter? (roundup can already filter results quite well) The web interface is pretty good for handling individual issues, but not so

Re: [Python-Dev] Tracker archeology

2009-02-13 Thread Martin v. Löwis
Send emails before they were done :D Again: what's that? Use a VCS for in-progress activities Hmm. Why do you need a database copy for that? Figure out how to serialize and submit the work done locally Again, don't understand. too brief. Share results with interested parties

Re: [Python-Dev] Tracker archeology

2009-02-13 Thread Daniel (ajax) Diniz
Hi Martin, Sorry about being so brief, I got a lot of unexpected interruptions and was rushing things. Martin v. Löwis wrote: For starters, free form searches, aggregation and filtering of results. What is free form searches (example)? What is aggregation? What results do you want to filter?

Re: [Python-Dev] Tracker archeology

2009-02-13 Thread Daniel (ajax) Diniz
Daniel (ajax) Diniz wrote: Status report and roadmap to be posted later today, before date +%s turns 1234567890 :) Missed that and got almost no tracker work done. Postponed to Monday, after some weekend cleaning. Daniel ___ Python-Dev mailing list

Re: [Python-Dev] Tracker archeology

2009-02-12 Thread Daniel (ajax) Diniz
Brett Cannon wrote: One thing to keep an eye on for old issues, Daniel, is the Stage field. Setting that is nice for Bug Days as people can see what issues still need a test written or could use a review, etc. OK, I'll try to set a useful Stage for bugs I edit. I'll reread your blog post on

Re: [Python-Dev] Tracker archeology

2009-02-12 Thread Daniel (ajax) Diniz
Senthil Kumaran wrote: For urllib,urllib2 and urlparse related, please add me (orsenthil) to nosy list. I should already there. I shall test and provide patches. Great! I always find it harder to test urllib[x] than to fix the bug. I'm in the process of gluing some tools and scripts together

Re: [Python-Dev] Tracker archeology

2009-02-12 Thread Daniel (ajax) Diniz
Victor Stinner wrote: I like everything related to Unicode and the separation of byte and character strings in Python3 :-) That's a big one. But Ezio Melotti already asked for Unicode, so I have some 75 issues selected and ready to add you two to, but I'll do it later today or after 3.0.1

Re: [Python-Dev] Tracker archeology

2009-02-12 Thread Victor Stinner
Le Thursday 12 February 2009 14:10:32, vous avez écrit : Victor Stinner wrote: I like everything related to Unicode and the separation of byte and character strings in Python3 :-) That's a big one. But Ezio Melotti already asked for Unicode, so I have some 75 issues selected and ready to

Re: [Python-Dev] Tracker archeology

2009-02-12 Thread Daniel (ajax) Diniz
Victor Stinner wrote: Oh, I realized that there is a component called Unicode. So it should be possible to write a request to list all issues related to unicode. Nice, I'll add set this component for issues that don't have it. I can still add people to these issues, if they want. Daniel

Re: [Python-Dev] Tracker archeology

2009-02-12 Thread Brett Cannon
On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 05:08, Daniel (ajax) Diniz aja...@gmail.com wrote: Brett Cannon wrote: One thing to keep an eye on for old issues, Daniel, is the Stage field. Setting that is nice for Bug Days as people can see what issues still need a test written or could use a review, etc. OK,

Re: [Python-Dev] Tracker archeology

2009-02-12 Thread Martin v. Löwis
Oh, I realized that there is a component called Unicode. So it should be possible to write a request to list all issues related to unicode. Nice, I'll add set this component for issues that don't have it. I can still add people to these issues, if they want. We can also add more components

Re: [Python-Dev] Tracker archeology

2009-02-12 Thread Daniel (ajax) Diniz
Brett Cannon wrote: Sounds like a *verify issue* stage is needed. Although I guess I kind of assumed as part of the triage issue verification would happen as well, but that might be too much as a single step. I'd rather think about it a bit more, available stages cover the vast majority of the

Re: [Python-Dev] Tracker archeology

2009-02-12 Thread Daniel (ajax) Diniz
Martin v. Löwis wrote: Oh, I realized that there is a component called Unicode. So it should be possible to write a request to list all issues related to unicode. Nice, I'll add set this component for issues that don't have it. I can still add people to these issues, if they want. We can

Re: [Python-Dev] Tracker archeology

2009-02-12 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Brett Cannon writes: Sounds like a *verify issue* stage is needed. Although I guess I kind of assumed as part of the triage issue verification would happen as well, but that might be too much as a single step. Are you confusing reproduce with verify? Remember, one of the three classes for

Re: [Python-Dev] Tracker archeology

2009-02-12 Thread Brett Cannon
On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 16:22, Stephen J. Turnbull step...@xemacs.orgwrote: Brett Cannon writes: Sounds like a *verify issue* stage is needed. Although I guess I kind of assumed as part of the triage issue verification would happen as well, but that might be too much as a single

Re: [Python-Dev] Tracker archeology

2009-02-12 Thread Daniel (ajax) Diniz
Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: Reproduction really is the same thing as providing a test. That was where I got confused: many issues are easy to reproduce ('test'), but need some thinking to get automated tests right. urllib always feels like this to me, except 'thinking' - 'getting lost over and

Re: [Python-Dev] Tracker archeology

2009-02-12 Thread Brett Cannon
On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 16:45, Daniel (ajax) Diniz aja...@gmail.com wrote: Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: Reproduction really is the same thing as providing a test. That was where I got confused: many issues are easy to reproduce ('test'), but need some thinking to get automated tests right.

Re: [Python-Dev] Tracker archeology

2009-02-12 Thread Steve Holden
Brett Cannon wrote: On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 16:45, Daniel (ajax) Diniz aja...@gmail.com mailto:aja...@gmail.com wrote: Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: Reproduction really is the same thing as providing a test. That was where I got confused: many issues are easy to reproduce

Re: [Python-Dev] Tracker archeology

2009-02-12 Thread Daniel (ajax) Diniz
Daniel (ajax) Diniz wrote: Martin v. Löwis wrote: Now, getting into pie-in-the-sky territory, if someone (not logged in) was to download all issues for scrapping and feeding to a local database, what time of day would be less disastrous for the server? :) I think HTML scraping is a really

Re: [Python-Dev] Tracker archeology

2009-02-11 Thread Tarek Ziadé
On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 12:46 AM, Stephen Thorne step...@thorne.id.au wrote: On 2009-02-10, Tarek Ziadé wrote: On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 2:23 PM, Daniel (ajax) Diniz aja...@gmail.com wrote: If anyone is interested in being added as nosy for any category of bugs, let me know and I'll do

Re: [Python-Dev] Tracker archeology

2009-02-11 Thread Raymond Hettinger
[Daniel (ajax) Diniz] Now will I'll start verifying, adding tests, updating or closing as needed the recently changed old issues, until I've taken a good look at these. Then, if there's still time left before Saturday, I'll focus on verifying/flagging more ancient ones. Thanks for your

Re: [Python-Dev] Tracker archeology

2009-02-11 Thread Brett Cannon
2009/2/11 Daniel (ajax) Diniz aja...@gmail.com Hi, Here's a status report about the digging. Thanks Benjamin, Antoine, Martin, Raymond, Guilherme, Georg, Brett, Mark and everyone else for helping :) Good: Many requested assignments: Thanks everyone that asked for bugs. If anyone

Re: [Python-Dev] Tracker archeology

2009-02-11 Thread Jim Baker
+1 on the cleanup: reading the bug description of http://bugs.python.org/issue1533164, this will also help Jython. Now I know why we see scenarios of package with setup.cfg with optimize=1: Indeed, this is a well-known issue. Many packages put an optimize=1 in their setup.cfg in order to solve

Re: [Python-Dev] Tracker archeology

2009-02-11 Thread Terry Reedy
Jim Baker wrote: +1 on the cleanup: reading the bug description of http://bugs.python.org/issue1533164, this will also help Jython. Now I know why we see scenarios of package with setup.cfg with optimize=1: Indeed, this is a well-known issue. Many packages put an optimize=1 in their setup.cfg

Re: [Python-Dev] Tracker archeology

2009-02-11 Thread Senthil Kumaran
On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 4:11 AM, Daniel (ajax) Diniz aja...@gmail.com wrote: Now will I'll start verifying, adding tests, updating or closing as needed the recently changed old issues, until I've taken a good look at these. Then, if there's still time left before Saturday, I'll focus on

[Python-Dev] Tracker archeology

2009-02-10 Thread Daniel (ajax) Diniz
Hi all, For the past two days I've been doing some housekeeping *cough*spamming*cough* on the tracker, mostly on ancient and/or easy bugs. So far, ten bugs have been closed (thanks Antoine, Barry, Benjamin, Guilherme, Martin and Raymond). I nominated some other bugs (below) for closing and added

Re: [Python-Dev] Tracker archeology

2009-02-10 Thread Facundo Batista
2009/2/10 Daniel (ajax) Diniz aja...@gmail.com: If anyone is interested in being added as nosy for any category of bugs, let me know and I'll do that as I scan the tracker. Anything related to Decimal, add me. Thanks! -- .Facundo Blog: http://www.taniquetil.com.ar/plog/ PyAr:

Re: [Python-Dev] Tracker archeology

2009-02-10 Thread Guido van Rossum
Thanks Daniel! This kind of work is never fun but very much needed and I'm very glad you did it. A round of applause!! On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 5:23 AM, Daniel (ajax) Diniz aja...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, For the past two days I've been doing some housekeeping *cough*spamming*cough* on the

Re: [Python-Dev] Tracker archeology

2009-02-10 Thread Brett Cannon
On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 05:23, Daniel (ajax) Diniz aja...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, For the past two days I've been doing some housekeeping *cough*spamming*cough* on the tracker, mostly on ancient and/or easy bugs. So far, ten bugs have been closed (thanks Antoine, Barry, Benjamin,

Re: [Python-Dev] Tracker archeology

2009-02-10 Thread Benjamin Peterson
On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 8:23 AM, Daniel (ajax) Diniz aja...@gmail.com wrote: If anyone is interested in being added as nosy for any category of bugs, let me know and I'll do that as I scan the tracker. Adding/assigning to me on 2to3 bugs is fine, but usually I notice stuff I'm interested in as

Re: [Python-Dev] Tracker archeology

2009-02-10 Thread Brett Cannon
On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 05:23, Daniel (ajax) Diniz aja...@gmail.com wrote: [SNIP] Iff this kind of Bug-Day-ish work is desirable, doesn't disrupt real work and people agree the workflow would be better, I'd like to have developer rights in the tracker, as per Antoine's suggestion. FWIW, I

Re: [Python-Dev] Tracker archeology

2009-02-10 Thread Tarek Ziadé
On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 2:23 PM, Daniel (ajax) Diniz aja...@gmail.com wrote: If anyone is interested in being added as nosy for any category of bugs, let me know and I'll do that as I scan the tracker. I'll take Distutils related issues, Thank you Tarek

Re: [Python-Dev] Tracker archeology

2009-02-10 Thread Daniel (ajax) Diniz
Brett Cannon wrote: OK, three enthusiastic votes to give them is plenty for me. You should have the Developer role now, Daniel. Let me know if I screwed up at all in switchng the role on for you. Thanks a lot! Looks like it worked fine :) Let me try the new thing, then: warnings and import

Re: [Python-Dev] Tracker archeology

2009-02-10 Thread Stephen Thorne
On 2009-02-10, Tarek Ziadé wrote: On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 2:23 PM, Daniel (ajax) Diniz aja...@gmail.com wrote: If anyone is interested in being added as nosy for any category of bugs, let me know and I'll do that as I scan the tracker. I'll take Distutils related issues, If you could

Re: [Python-Dev] Tracker archeology

2009-02-10 Thread Daniel (ajax) Diniz
Brett Cannon wrote: Warnings and import for me. Done. Tomorrow I'll see what I can triage/test in those. Talking about Bug Days, I see lots of easy bugs, some with outdated patches. Is there any plan of doing a Bug Day around PyCon time? Well, the sprints at PyCon are Bug Days themselves

Re: [Python-Dev] Tracker archeology

2009-02-10 Thread Daniel (ajax) Diniz
Tarek Ziadé wrote: I'll take Distutils related issues, Done. Since Akira Kitada is helping with many distutils issues, I'll skip looking at them for now. Ping me if you need tests or simple patches :) Regards, Daniel ___ Python-Dev mailing list

Re: [Python-Dev] Tracker archeology

2009-02-10 Thread Daniel (ajax) Diniz
Benjamin Peterson wrote: Adding/assigning to me on 2to3 bugs is fine, but usually I notice stuff I'm interested in as it rises to the top. Done, found a couple more. There are also some -3 warnings open, if that interests you :) Thanks for the support, I only saw it was a +10 now :D Cheers,