Re: [Python-Dev] ctypes and win64

2006-10-21 Thread Martin v. Löwis
Thomas Heller schrieb: The official Python-2.5.amd64.msi does *not* contain ctypes, so the official Python-2.5.x.amd64.msi should also not contain ctypes (I assume). That would be good, yes. Not many people (I assume again) are running 64-bit windows, and use the 64-bit Python version I

Re: [Python-Dev] ctypes and win64

2006-10-20 Thread Thomas Heller
Thomas Heller schrieb (this was before Python 2.5 had been released): The _ctypes extension module does currently not even build on Win64. I'm (slowly) working on this (for AMD64, not for itanium), but it may take a good while before it is stable - It is not even fully implemented currently.

Re: [Python-Dev] ctypes and win64

2006-10-20 Thread Thomas Heller
[Resent after subscribing to python-dev with this new email address, sorry if it appears twice] Thomas Heller schrieb (this was before Python 2.5 had been released): The _ctypes extension module does currently not even build on Win64. I'm (slowly) working on this (for AMD64, not for

Re: [Python-Dev] ctypes and win64

2006-10-20 Thread Martin v. Löwis
Thomas Heller schrieb: I would prefer to merge these changes into release25-maint, because I want to also release the standalone ctypes packages from this branch (using it with svn:externals from somewhere else). That's not a good reason for back-porting. If you want a maintenance branch for

Re: [Python-Dev] ctypes and win64

2006-10-20 Thread Thomas Heller
Martin v. Löwis schrieb: Thomas Heller schrieb: [I was talking about patches to make ctypes work on 64-bit windows] I would prefer to merge these changes into release25-maint, because I want to also release the standalone ctypes packages from this branch (using it with svn:externals from

Re: [Python-Dev] ctypes and win64

2006-08-23 Thread Thomas Heller
Martin v. Löwis schrieb: Thomas Heller schrieb: I suggest that it [the ctypes package] should be removed from the 2.5 win64 msi installers, so that at least, when it is ready, can be installed as separate package. Unfortunately, I won't be able to work on this until the release is made.

Re: [Python-Dev] ctypes and win64

2006-08-21 Thread Fredrik Lundh
Alex Martelli wrote: Sprints are indeed a fascinating idea and have proven they work, in an open-source context -- I do wonder if they could be made to work in other contexts, and I'm sure many others are wondering similarly. war room development and other colocation approaches are

Re: [Python-Dev] ctypes and win64

2006-08-20 Thread Thomas Wouters
On 8/19/06, Jack Diederich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It has always just worked for me on Opterons + Debian.Python 2.4 (#1, May 31 2005, 10:19:45)[GCC 3.3.5 (Debian 1:3.3.5-12)] on linux2Type help, copyright, credits or license for more information. import sys sys.maxint9223372036854775807While

Re: [Python-Dev] ctypes and win64

2006-08-20 Thread Fredrik Lundh
Martin v. Löwis wrote: It isn't. Python ran on 64-bit Alpha for nearly a decade now (I guess) make that over a decade. the first Python system I built was on tru64, back in 1995 (portions of the the initial prototype was written on a 286 box under MS-DOS, but the bulk was developed on tru64

Re: [Python-Dev] ctypes and win64

2006-08-20 Thread Ganesan Rajagopal
Fredrik Lundh [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Martin v. Löwis wrote: It isn't. Python ran on 64-bit Alpha for nearly a decade now (I guess) make that over a decade. the first Python system I built was on tru64, back in 1995 (portions of the the initial prototype was written on a 286 box under

Re: [Python-Dev] ctypes and win64

2006-08-20 Thread Alex Martelli
On Aug 19, 2006, at 3:28 AM, Steve Holden wrote: ... It's going to be very interesting to see what comes out of the Google sprints. I am sure the 64-bitters will be out in force, so there'll be Hmmm, we'll be working on our laptops, as is typical of sprints, so I'm not sure how many

Re: [Python-Dev] ctypes and win64

2006-08-20 Thread Thomas Wouters
On 8/21/06, Alex Martelli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Aug 19, 2006, at 3:28 AM, Steve Holden wrote:... It's going to be very interesting to see what comes out of the Google sprints. I am sure the 64-bitters will be out in force, so there'll be Hmmm, we'll be working on our laptops, as is typical

Re: [Python-Dev] ctypes and win64

2006-08-19 Thread Tim Peters
[Steve Holden] Reasonable enough, but I suspect that Thomas' suggestion might save us from raising false hopes. I'd suggest that the final release announcement point out that this is the first release containing specific support for 64-bit architectures (if indeed it is) [Martin v. Löwis] It

Re: [Python-Dev] ctypes and win64

2006-08-19 Thread Steve Holden
Tim Peters wrote: [Steve Holden] Reasonable enough, but I suspect that Thomas' suggestion might save us from raising false hopes. I'd suggest that the final release announcement point out that this is the first release containing specific support for 64-bit architectures (if indeed it is)

Re: [Python-Dev] ctypes and win64

2006-08-19 Thread Jack Diederich
On Sat, Aug 19, 2006 at 05:19:40AM -0400, Tim Peters wrote: [Steve Holden] Reasonable enough, but I suspect that Thomas' suggestion might save us from raising false hopes. I'd suggest that the final release announcement point out that this is the first release containing specific support

[Python-Dev] ctypes and win64

2006-08-18 Thread Thomas Heller
The _ctypes extension module does currently not even build on Win64. I'm (slowly) working on this (for AMD64, not for itanium), but it may take a good while before it is stable - It is not even fully implemented currently. The win64 msi installer installs the ctypes package anyway, but it cannot

Re: [Python-Dev] ctypes and win64

2006-08-18 Thread Martin v. Löwis
Thomas Heller schrieb: I suggest that it should be removed from the 2.5 win64 msi installers, so that at least, when it is ready, can be installed as separate package. Unfortunately, I won't be able to work on this until the release is made. Feel free to work on it, but I suggest to just not

Re: [Python-Dev] ctypes and win64

2006-08-18 Thread Thomas Heller
Martin v. Löwis schrieb: Thomas Heller schrieb: I suggest that it should be removed from the 2.5 win64 msi installers, so that at least, when it is ready, can be installed as separate package. Unfortunately, I won't be able to work on this until the release is made. Feel free to work on

Re: [Python-Dev] ctypes and win64

2006-08-18 Thread Martin v. Löwis
Thomas Heller schrieb: There are many other problems with Win64 still, e.g. the test suite doesn't pass. And tons of compiler warnings, IIRC. If the state is still experimental, IMO it should be marked as such. Most of the compiler warnings are irrelevant for most of the applications, and

Re: [Python-Dev] ctypes and win64

2006-08-18 Thread Steve Holden
Martin v. Löwis wrote: Thomas Heller schrieb: There are many other problems with Win64 still, e.g. the test suite doesn't pass. And tons of compiler warnings, IIRC. If the state is still experimental, IMO it should be marked as such. Most of the compiler warnings are irrelevant for most

Re: [Python-Dev] ctypes and win64

2006-08-18 Thread Martin v. Löwis
Steve Holden schrieb: Reasonable enough, but I suspect that Thomas' suggestion might save us from raising false hopes. I'd suggest that the final release announcement point out that this is the first release containing specific support for 64-bit architectures (if indeed it is) It isn't.