Martin v. Löwis wrote:
I know that the issue tracker for PyPI is (still) on SF, but
development appear to happen elsewhere and I can't find any
contact information on the PyPI web pages.
PyPI discussion takes place mostly on catalog-sig.
Ok, then I'll sign up there.
Thanks,
--
Marc-Andre
David Lyon wrote:
On Thu, 08 Oct 2009 09:35:57 +0200, M.-A. Lemburg m...@egenix.com wrote:
One could say that much of the setuptools cloud came about because of
the lack of the queryable download url. Setuptools does a lot of work
here to 'work-around' the ommission on pypi of a package
On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 10:20 AM, M.-A. Lemburg m...@egenix.com wrote:
I know that the issue tracker for PyPI is (still) on SF, but
development appear to happen elsewhere and I can't find any
contact information on the PyPI web pages.
Everything is provided here:
Tarek Ziadé wrote:
On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 10:20 AM, M.-A. Lemburg m...@egenix.com wrote:
I know that the issue tracker for PyPI is (still) on SF, but
development appear to happen elsewhere and I can't find any
contact information on the PyPI web pages.
Everything is provided here:
I know that the issue tracker for PyPI is (still) on SF, but
development appear to happen elsewhere and I can't find any
contact information on the PyPI web pages.
PyPI discussion takes place mostly on catalog-sig.
Regards,
Martin
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David Lyon wrote:
On Tue, 06 Oct 2009 16:45:29 +0100, Chris Withers ch...@simplistix.co.uk
wrote:
Well yeah, and the only sane way I can think to handle this is to have a
metadata file that gets uploaded with each distribution that covers all
these things (and the other things that other
Tarek Ziadé wrote:
On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 9:35 AM, M.-A. Lemburg m...@egenix.com wrote:
BTW: Who would I need to contact for the PyPI side to work out
an upload_url distutils command ?
I am not sure to understand. How upload_url will differ from the
register command
that let you upload
On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 9:35 AM, M.-A. Lemburg m...@egenix.com wrote:
BTW: Who would I need to contact for the PyPI side to work out
an upload_url distutils command ?
I am not sure to understand. How upload_url will differ from the
register command
that let you upload metadata at PyPI ?
Tarek
On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 10:38 AM, M.-A. Lemburg m...@egenix.com wrote:
Tarek Ziadé wrote:
On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 9:35 AM, M.-A. Lemburg m...@egenix.com wrote:
BTW: Who would I need to contact for the PyPI side to work out
an upload_url distutils command ?
I am not sure to understand. How
Tarek Ziadé wrote:
On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 10:38 AM, M.-A. Lemburg m...@egenix.com wrote:
Tarek Ziadé wrote:
On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 9:35 AM, M.-A. Lemburg m...@egenix.com wrote:
BTW: Who would I need to contact for the PyPI side to work out
an upload_url distutils command ?
I am not sure to
On Thu, 08 Oct 2009 09:35:57 +0200, M.-A. Lemburg m...@egenix.com wrote:
One could say that much of the setuptools cloud came about because of
the lack of the queryable download url. Setuptools does a lot of work
here to 'work-around' the ommission on pypi of a package download url.
I think
David Lyon wrote:
Distutils for windows is very, very dead.. grave-ware in-fact.
Now that is not true at all. We have a native Windows installer
(bdist_wininst) and an MSI builder (bdist_msi) that both work
great on Windows.
Plus there are add-ons for other installers such as NSIS and
Arc Riley arcriley at gmail.com writes:
Is the intention of Pypi really to turn it into a social networking site?
Sure, why not?
It's not like there are enough social networking sites nowadays, are there? :)
Regards
Antoine.
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On Tue, 06 Oct 2009 16:45:29 +0100, Chris Withers ch...@simplistix.co.uk
wrote:
Well yeah, and the only sane way I can think to handle this is to have a
metadata file that gets uploaded with each distribution that covers all
these things (and the other things that other people need) and then
Nick Coghlan wrote:
Really? I can understand package owners not being able to add
recommendations for their own packages, but if they can't add comments
how are they meant to correct misunderstandings or redirect
inappropriate messages to the correct forums?
Indeed, yet another reason I would
M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
We've implemented our own bdist_egg now which doesn't use setuptools
and will start to ship eggs in addition to our prebuilt format with
the next releases.
Egg-cellent ;-)
Any chance this tool is open source? Better yet, could it make its way
into distutils asap?
Chris
Fredrik Lundh wrote:
Oh, it was just yet another Zope developer behaving like an ass. Why
am I not surprised?
Actually Plohn, there aren't that many Zope developers left ;-)
Chris - looking mournfully at his sig...
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Chris Withers wrote:
M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
We've implemented our own bdist_egg now which doesn't use setuptools
and will start to ship eggs in addition to our prebuilt format with
the next releases.
Egg-cellent ;-)
Any chance this tool is open source? Better yet, could it make its way
M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
mxSetup.py, the module implementing all our distutils extensions,
is available in egenix-mx-base which is open source:
http://www.egenix.com/products/python/mxBase/
I have memories of mxBase having a load of other stuff in it too?
Would it be possible to split
I'll make the argument that feedback is useful, comments are much less so
and a lot more work.
It would be more useful to allow package users post feedback, visible only
to the package maintainer, and also add support for bugtracker links/etc.
Is the intention of Pypi really to turn it into a
On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 5:11 PM, M.-A. Lemburg m...@egenix.com wrote:
Senthil Kumaran wrote:
On Mon, Oct 05, 2009 at 10:43:22AM +0200, Fredrik Lundh wrote:
it's revews like this that makes me wonder if releasing open source is
a good idea:
no egg - worst seen ever, remove it from pypi or
Chris Withers wrote:
M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
mxSetup.py, the module implementing all our distutils extensions,
is available in egenix-mx-base which is open source:
http://www.egenix.com/products/python/mxBase/
I have memories of mxBase having a load of other stuff in it too?
Yep, lots of
M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
Would it be possible to split just the distutils extensions into their
own package and get that package as an sdist on PyPI?
Nope.
shame :-(
The complicated stuff does belong somewhere else, but the
basic things need to go into the filename
But everyone's basic
Chris Withers wrote:
M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
The complicated stuff does belong somewhere else, but the
basic things need to go into the filename
But everyone's basic things are different.
The really basic stuff is the same for everyone since it's
dictated by the way Python works on computers
At 03:18 PM 10/6/2009 +0200, M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
Note how the package name is mangled... easy_install requires this.
The file name also doesn't tell you that the above is for
a UCS2 Python build. Again, easy_install fails with that information
added to the py2.6 version marker.
Btw, every
At 06:03 PM 10/6/2009 +0200, M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
Chris Withers wrote:
Well yeah, and the only sane way I can think to handle this is to have a
metadata file that gets uploaded with each distribution that covers all
these things (and the other things that other people need) and then have
the
P.J. Eby wrote:
At 03:18 PM 10/6/2009 +0200, M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
Note how the package name is mangled... easy_install requires this.
The file name also doesn't tell you that the above is for
a UCS2 Python build. Again, easy_install fails with that information
added to the py2.6 version
P.J. Eby wrote:
At 06:03 PM 10/6/2009 +0200, M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
It goes a bit in the direction of what we had in mind with writing
for our clients: a tool that looks at the Python installation and
automatically finds/downloads/installs the right package from
our website. Only that we wanted
At 10:17 PM 10/6/2009 +0200, M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
P.J. Eby wrote:
At 06:03 PM 10/6/2009 +0200, M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
It goes a bit in the direction of what we had in mind with writing
for our clients: a tool that looks at the Python installation and
automatically finds/downloads/installs the
On Tue, 06 Oct 2009 13:52:34 -0400, P.J. Eby p...@telecommunity.com
wrote:
Btw, every couple years or so I've sent out a call on the
distutils-SIG to try to get consensus on a format for the platform
tag information used by setuptools. (The first time was before
easy_install even existed.)
it's revews like this that makes me wonder if releasing open source is
a good idea:
no egg - worst seen ever, remove it from pypi or provide an egg
(jensens, 2009-10-05, 0 points)
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Fredrik Lundh fred...@pythonware.com writes:
it's revews like this that makes me wonder if releasing open source is
a good idea:
no egg - worst seen ever, remove it from pypi or provide an egg
(jensens, 2009-10-05, 0 points)
Heh. If harsh, uninformed responses make you wonder whether
On Mon, Oct 05, 2009 at 10:43:22AM +0200, Fredrik Lundh wrote:
it's revews like this that makes me wonder if releasing open source is
a good idea:
no egg - worst seen ever, remove it from pypi or provide an egg
(jensens, 2009-10-05, 0 points)
Greetings effbot. :)
As you might already
Oh, it was just yet another Zope developer behaving like an ass. Why
am I not surprised?
/F
On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 10:43 AM, Fredrik Lundh fred...@pythonware.com wrote:
it's reviews like this that makes me wonder if releasing open source is
a good idea:
no egg - worst seen ever, remove it
On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 4:58 AM, Fredrik Lundh fred...@pythonware.com wrote:
Oh, it was just yet another Zope developer behaving like an ass. Why
am I not surprised?
Actually, most of us Zope developers prefer sdist packages, not eggs.
-Fred
--
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Fredrik Lundh wrote:
Oh, it was just yet another Zope developer behaving like an ass. Why
am I not surprised?
Tarring an entire community for the actions of one twit is more than a
little unfair.
It's fine that you don't like eggs and it's fine that you don't want to
provide them. There's a
Fredrik Lundh wrote:
Oh, it was just yet another Zope developer behaving like an ass. Why
am I not surprised?
/F
On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 10:43 AM, Fredrik Lundh fred...@pythonware.com wrote:
it's reviews like this that makes me wonder if releasing open source is
a good idea:
no egg -
He's not the first one from the Zope community (whatever that is)
that's behaved this way on this specific topic. The problem here is
that a certain (marginal) user community decides to standardize on a
certain distribution model, and then goes off attacking people who've
released stuff *before*
Am Montag, den 05.10.2009, 13:07 +0200 schrieb Christian Heimes:
Fredrik Lundh wrote:
Oh, it was just yet another Zope developer behaving like an ass. Why
am I not surprised?
/F
On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 10:43 AM, Fredrik Lundh fred...@pythonware.com
wrote:
it's reviews like this
On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 4:43 AM, Fredrik Lundh fred...@pythonware.com wrote:
it's revews like this that makes me wonder if releasing open source is
a good idea:
no egg - worst seen ever, remove it from pypi or provide an egg
(jensens, 2009-10-05, 0 points)
/F
Unfortunately; we're now
On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 6:26 AM, Jens W. Klein j...@bluedynamics.com wrote:
Am Montag, den 05.10.2009, 13:07 +0200 schrieb Christian Heimes:
Fredrik Lundh wrote:
Oh, it was just yet another Zope developer behaving like an ass. Why
am I not surprised?
On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 10:43 AM,
Senthil Kumaran wrote:
On Mon, Oct 05, 2009 at 10:43:22AM +0200, Fredrik Lundh wrote:
it's revews like this that makes me wonder if releasing open source is
a good idea:
no egg - worst seen ever, remove it from pypi or provide an egg
(jensens, 2009-10-05, 0 points)
Greetings effbot. :)
Jesse Noller schrieb:
On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 4:43 AM, Fredrik Lundh fred...@pythonware.com wrote:
it's revews like this that makes me wonder if releasing open source is
a good idea:
no egg - worst seen ever, remove it from pypi or provide an egg
(jensens, 2009-10-05, 0 points)
/F
On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 12:00 PM, Georg Brandl g.bra...@gmx.net wrote:
Jesse Noller schrieb:
On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 4:43 AM, Fredrik Lundh fred...@pythonware.com wrote:
it's revews like this that makes me wonder if releasing open source is
a good idea:
no egg - worst seen ever, remove it
On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 10:38 AM, Jesse Noller jnol...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 12:00 PM, Georg Brandl g.bra...@gmx.net wrote:
Jesse Noller schrieb:
On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 4:43 AM, Fredrik Lundh fred...@pythonware.com
wrote:
it's revews like this that makes me wonder if
On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 1:54 PM, Guido van Rossum gu...@python.org wrote:
User ratings and comments are the
future for app store style sites such as PyPI
Interestingly, I consider sites like PyPI as developer resources
rather than the more end-user-centric App Store sites.
While I don't
On Oct 5, 2009, at 4:59 AM, Ben Finney wrote:
Fredrik Lundh fred...@pythonware.com writes:
it's revews like this that makes me wonder if releasing open source
is
a good idea:
no egg - worst seen ever, remove it from pypi or provide an egg
(jensens, 2009-10-05, 0 points)
Heh. If harsh,
On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 1:54 PM, Guido van Rossum gu...@python.org wrote:
On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 10:38 AM, Jesse Noller jnol...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 12:00 PM, Georg Brandl g.bra...@gmx.net wrote:
Jesse Noller schrieb:
On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 4:43 AM, Fredrik Lundh
On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 1:21 PM, Jesse Noller jnol...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 1:54 PM, Guido van Rossum gu...@python.org wrote:
[...]
User ratings and comments are the
future for app store style sites such as PyPI, and spam
unfortunately comes with the terrain. There are
Doug Hellmann wrote:
On Oct 5, 2009, at 4:59 AM, Ben Finney wrote:
If you *want* to respond, you can politely direct them to
URL:http://docs.python.org/install/ where they can learn how to
install Python distributions — no mention of eggs at all.
Package owners are not allowed to comment on
Fred Drake wrote:
On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 1:54 PM, Guido van Rossum gu...@python.org wrote:
User ratings and comments are the
future for app store style sites such as PyPI
Interestingly, I consider sites like PyPI as developer resources
rather than the more end-user-centric App Store sites.
On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 4:24 PM, Nick Coghlan ncogh...@gmail.com wrote:
When it comes to comments and recommendations for selecting software
packages, developers *are* the end users :)
Yes, most certainly. But developers as consumers are very different
from application users as consumers, which
On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 4:06 PM, Fred Drake fdr...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 4:24 PM, Nick Coghlan ncogh...@gmail.com wrote:
When it comes to comments and recommendations for selecting software
packages, developers *are* the end users :)
Yes, most certainly. But developers as
On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 4:23 PM, Olemis Lang ole...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 4:06 PM, Fred Drake fdr...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 4:24 PM, Nick Coghlan ncogh...@gmail.com wrote:
When it comes to comments and recommendations for selecting software
packages,
* Moderation
[...]
* Flagging as spam
* Captcha ?
In the specific case, neither would have helped.
a) the user making the comment that the package author felt to be
impolite was a real user, with an established, well-known identity,
and long-time member of the community (IIUC). That didn't
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