[Python-Dev] Re: Switching to Discourse

2022-12-02 Thread Gordon R. Burgess
I am a long time lurker here*, a professional and educational user of the language, a list moderator with practical exeperience managing a engaged community of a few thousand users over the course of a decade - and yes, I am old. I saw what happened when the young developers there insisted that

[Python-Dev] Re: A proposal to modify `None` so that it hashes to a constant

2022-12-02 Thread Eric Snow
On Mon, Nov 28, 2022 at 6:45 PM Steven D'Aprano wrote: > On Tue, Nov 29, 2022 at 01:34:54PM +1300, Greg Ewing wrote: > > I got the impression that there were some internal language reasons > > to want stable dicts, e.g. so that the class dict passed to __prepare__ > > preserves the order in which

[Python-Dev] Re: Switching to Discourse

2022-12-02 Thread Brett Cannon
On Fri, Dec 2, 2022 at 8:17 AM Baptiste Carvello < devel2...@baptiste-carvello.net> wrote: > Le 02/12/2022 à 10:09, Gregory P. Smith a écrit : > > > > On Thu, Dec 1, 2022 at 8:37 AM Victor Stinner > > wrote: > > > > > > Should we *close* the python-dev mailing

[Python-Dev] Re: Switching to Discourse

2022-12-02 Thread Baptiste Carvello
Le 02/12/2022 à 10:09, Gregory P. Smith a écrit : > > On Thu, Dec 1, 2022 at 8:37 AM Victor Stinner > wrote: > > > Should we *close* the python-dev mailing list? > > > I'd be in favor of this. Why? Californian firms won't let their employees use an

[Python-Dev] Re: A proposal to modify `None` so that it hashes to a constant

2022-12-02 Thread Terry Reedy
On 11/30/2022 8:48 PM, Rob Cliffe via Python-Dev wrote: Thank you for this very clear analysis, Oscar. It seems to me that this strengthens the OP's case.  I am curious as to whether others agree. I do. On 30/11/2022 13:35, Oscar Benjamin wrote: On Tue, 29 Nov 2022 at 23:46, Steven D'Aprano

[Python-Dev] Re: A proposal to modify `None` so that it hashes to a constant

2022-12-02 Thread Rob Cliffe via Python-Dev
Thank you for this very clear analysis, Oscar. It seems to me that this strengthens the OP's case.  I am curious as to whether others agree. Best wishes Rob Cliffe On 30/11/2022 13:35, Oscar Benjamin wrote: On Tue, 29 Nov 2022 at 23:46, Steven D'Aprano wrote: On Tue, Nov 29, 2022 at

[Python-Dev] Re: Switching to Discourse

2022-12-02 Thread Gregory P. Smith
On Thu, Dec 1, 2022 at 8:37 AM Victor Stinner wrote: > > Should we *close* the python-dev mailing list? > I'd be in favor of this. Or at least setting up an auto-responder suggesting people post on discuss.python.org instead. -gps ___ Python-Dev