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|Unit tests for Zope 2.7.4's 'zdaemon' package, which passed under Python
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| Are you sure they passed under 2.4?
Yep. I showed output from that in the original post (and below
about setuptools, etc.
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wants to cross-compile bdist-win distributions for
the benefit of tool-deprived Windows users.
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there, rather than trying IPv6 and then falling back to IPv4.
For instance, tunneling a connection over SSH to a Mac box via '-L
:localhost:' will fail to connect at all, unless the server is
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at least in some languages (Pascal, Modula*, maybe Ada?)
for a terminate at bottom loop (one guaranteed to run at least once):
in such cases, the predicate has the negative sense.
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the 'simplegeneric' stuff? I would think something with a lot lower
intrinsic overhead would be a better benchmark target.
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harm to other users.
Wouldn't such hypothetical core Python developers be able to build and
run their own local copy of bzr, using that self-compiled Python? Let's
not strain at gnats and swallow camels here.
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worked on)
+1.
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On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 6:39 PM, Bill Janssen jans...@parc.com wrote:
Josiah Carlson josiah.carl...@gmail.com wrote:
But yes, zope needs to be changed to reflect the updated
asyncore/asynchat semantics
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How is anybody supposed to
write a package which sits atop a library like asyncore in a fashion
portable across Python versions? The changes
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story, leaving a given component out of the library
is a defensible choice.
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If a decent package management system *was* included, this wouldn't be an
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Remember
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I'm not arguing that employees should violate their employers' policies:
I'm arguing that Python itself shouldn't try to cater to such policies.
Basically you're saying: Python is designed not to work
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Nick Coghlan wrote:
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You are plainly joking: nothing in Python should know or care about the
various bureaucratic insanities in some workplaces. Given the
*existing* stdlib and network connectivity, nothing any corporate
gmane, and leave python-dev CC'ed so
that folks who read via the list don't have their replies to me fall off
list (which happens on some lists, anyway).
I will trim the CC in the future, and hope for the best.
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upstream distro to package the correct versions for me, or to avoid
breaking my application by the packaging choices they make.
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David Cournapeau wrote:
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Many of us using setuptools extensively tend to adopt an isolated
environment strategy (e.g., pip, virtualenv, zc.buildout). We don't
install
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Everytime I tried to understand what buildout was about, I was not
even sure it could help for my own problems at all. It seems very
specific
profiling, etc. just
be adding a new layer in the pipeline. Putting the profiler into a
larger package would make it less likely to be used across frameworks.
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paleoanthropology: chunkers and splitters are perpetually at war
there, too.
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the summary, and the idea of 'contrib' distributions.
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On Mar 25, 2009, at 6:06 PM, Tennessee Leeuwenburg wrote:
For case one, where I want
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in
setuptools, if it meant virtual distutils project rather than
specific module or package.
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: both in tone and
in content I found them extremely helpful.
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think either of these classes should be subject to a deprecation
warning for a feature they never used or depended on.
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Nick Coghlan wrote:
Tres Seaver wrote:
I don't think either of these classes should be subject to a deprecation
warning for a feature they never used or depended on.
Agreed. Could you raise a tracker issue for the spurious warnings? (I
believe
make the decision that Mitchell
refers to).
I believe this was decided on sometime (the sprints?).
It was at the Language Summit.
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[1] http://www.dwheeler.com/essays/fixing-unix-linux-filenames.html
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: the apps broken by the change were forced to rely on
stuff that the subsequent maintainer considered implementation details.
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be useful to split out the
following prefixes for special kinds of data:
- - docs
- - i18n / locales
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David Lyon wrote:
On Tue, 21 Jul 2009 13:41:41 -0400, Tres Seaver tsea...@palladion.com
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Consider the case where the user has built a separate python (e.g., to
avoid conflicting with the OS version) in /opt/PythonX.y: are you
actually
and I've missed
something obvious.
+1 to making it a package and keeping the data in the package.
- -1 to a zip file: each scripts should be a noraml, version-controlled
entity.
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to delegate, in this case
to the devotees of other cults^Wshells than bash.
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that are already there.
The redundant u'*' spelling would be present in Python3 for the same
reason that the equally-reduntant b'*' spelling is present in Python
2.6+: it makes writing portable code simpler.
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where get a cup of coffee while we rebuild the world is a frequent
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of the exception. In the days
when I did C / C++ / Java coding as my main gig, braceless code was
routinely a bug magnet *for the team*.
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to hold the form / query string data being supplied
by untrusted external users.
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file: changes to individual files aren't detectable by examining their
containing directory's stat().
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On 02/10/2012 04:42 PM, Brett Cannon wrote:
On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 16:29, Tres Seaver tsea...@palladion.com
wrote:
On 02/10/2012 03:38 PM, Brett Cannon wrote:
Changes in any fashion to the directory. Do filesystems
atomically update the mtime
in Python = 2.6).
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({},)
$ python3
Python 3.2 (r32:88445, Mar 10 2011, 10:08:58)
[GCC 4.4.3] on linux2
Type help, copyright, credits or license for more information.
({},)
({},)
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ExtensionClass and Acquisition would fit the bill, except they aren't
ported to Python3 (Acquisition needs the headers from ExtensionClass).
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On 03/16/2012 04:46 AM, Lennart Regebro wrote:
On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 05:55, Tres Seaver tsea...@palladion.com
wrote:
ExtensionClass and Acquisition would fit the bill, except they
aren't ported to Python3 (Acquisition needs the headers from
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On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 9:48 PM, Tres Seaver tsea...@palladion.com
wrote:
On 03/13/2012 06:49 PM, Nick Coghlan wrote:
On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 8:08 AM, Guido van Rossum
gu...@python.org wrote
for that).
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/ accessibility more than their
hipster karma seem to be a tiny minority in the current web world
(without even counting web designers who think a Photoshop document is
the final deliverable).
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.__new__.
Why not make it a static method, if there is no notion of a useful 'cls'
argument?
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anyone want to iterate over either of them?
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where the convention is that the
Sphink docs are managed and built in the 'docs' subdirectory).
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, configuration-driven
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it) but if
it works *with* the system and not against it, I don't mind.
I hope this helps,
Very much, thanks.
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won't get the
edge cases right. Maybe we can just punt on such packages, and make a
tool which actually works for the huge majority of distributions which
don't need to do more than install files.
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site-packages changes, but also allows greater control over other Python
configuration choices (the UCS2 / UCS4 knob, etc.).
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could no
longer reproduce it at all).
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than insist on a foolish consistency.
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test class method calls if you're not
careful.
+1. I had just groped my way to that counter-proposal myself, for
exactly your reasons.
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be surprised if they had to recode it when upgrading to a recent Zope,
so maybe we can just change the trunk without worrying about it.
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|startupinfo)
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That definitely shouldn't happen on Unix either.
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a maximum of 79 characters., without requiring runtime concatenation
costs. I use it frequently when assembling and testing message strings,
for instance.
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the
version on the quasi-tag branch, rather than committing the released
version of setup.py to the source branch, only to follow it immediately
with another commit reverting the release-specific change.
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Georg Brandl wrote:
Stephen J. Turnbull schrieb:
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svn doesn't have any true tags, AFAIK: everything is a branch.
Yow! I couldn't have imagined that would be true. And didn't
It's not exactly true either. svn
* of the FAQ into
your document, leaving pointers to the new sections behind.
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CVE-2008-3144
CVE-2008-1887
CVE-2008-4864
+1 from a non-core developer who still has to keep sites using 2.4 up
and running.
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a different module, after import time.
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applications to handle it.
Amen! the idea that paths, environment varioables, and stuff pulled off
of sockets can be treated as text rather than strings is just wishful
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Nothing is set in stone; if something is incredibly painful, or worse
yet broken, then someone needs to file a bug, bring it to this list,
or bring up
dont make me think is a losing propsition:
programmers who work with URLs in any non-opaque way as text are
eventually going to be bitten by this issue no matter how hard we wave
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- - the breakage in cgi.py which prevents handling file uploads in a
web application;
- - the slow adoption / porting rate of major web frameworks and libraries
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mirror running? I know that the hg / git / bzr mirrors I set up for the
repoze SVN repository haven't require any ongoing effort, after the
initial day or two of setup effort.
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(the git web bit runs as CGI, IIRC).
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will need to set up new clones for the upstream and re-clone
the working trees, as the revision IDs won't match, etc.
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That's why I'm advocating a dedicated flag instead.
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-AttributeErrors is broken alreay (it just doesn't show the borkedness).
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